crap cleaner

"Old Enough" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:03:27 -0500, "walt" wrote:


What would you recommend to replace it?

I know you didn't ask me, but I use AVG Anti-Virus by Grisoft
www.Grisoft.com

AVG IMHO is sub-par and basically worthless.


I'm told that AntiVir is better, but I haven't used it.
(I believe it does not check email for viruses - AVG does.)
http://www.free-av.com/

I also use adaware, spybot, and spywareblaster

As I understand it, the latter (Spywareblaster) always runs in the
background.

Spyware Blaster does not run in the background at any time what-so-ever. What it
does is add CLSID entries into the registry that block the nasties from any access to
the PC. The only time SB runs is when the user starts it, once closed it no longer
runs until the user starts it again.

I make it a habit to update the definition files of all three about
once a week, and then run adaware and spybot.

If you clean out your cookies and MRU's frequently, these programs
hopefully won't find too much.
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/mrublaster.html

I'm no expert, and none of the above is scientifically proven, but my
machine stays pretty clean.

Now, if only I could find a way to filter out the spam. Every time I
add filters, those @$!*&* spammers find ways of circumventing them.
Oh, wel . . . . . .

Cheers!
_________________________________
Old Enough
to know I don't know a thing ....


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
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AVG IMHO is sub-par and basically worthless.


Why do you say that? Just curious...

What free a-v product would you recommend (if any) and why?

"Olórin" wrote in message
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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
AVG IMHO is sub-par and basically worthless.


Why do you say that? Just curious...

When I tested it, virus detection was lacking where a few slipped passed it, and
they weren't new ones. Also it wouldn't detect a virus a few levels deep in an
archive/compressed/zip file.


What free a-v product would you recommend (if any) and why?



Avast is the only one out of the few I recommended in the past that is free, not
the "free" many companies mention which are free to try (trial versions). I tend to
shy away from recommending free av apps anymore, my thoughts are you get what you pay
for.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something different. I don't
have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if something is better that
doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so many being talked about, which would
be the best for me to get? I am on dial up so down loading a large program
could be difficult for me. Any help would be appreciated.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
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Reply at the bottom to maintain dialog order...

snip
Conversation in its entirety:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...dbee82990e53bf



walt wrote:
snip
Isn't the Windows Firewall a good enough Firewall? If not, what is
recommended?

JS wrote:
No Windows firewall is not good enough, see Zone Alarm (free) or
others at: http://www.firewallguide.com/software.htm

Shenan wrote:
I disagree with that answer in this situation.

I have reviewed the entire thread and stating outright that the Windows
XP SP2 Firewall is not good enough I believe is a careless statement
based off nothing. From what has been said in this thread - one cannot
make the conclusion that the Windows XP SP2 Firewall is not sufficient
for this particular user. Statements like that are what likely cause
some people to panic and purchase 'All-in-One' suites like those from
Norton/McAfee - that often do more damage than good (in terms of resource
utilization vs. protection they give) and have so many features - they
end up confusing the user more than helping.

walt,

We would need to know more about your configuration in order to make a
valid suggestion. For example:

- How do you currently connect to the Internet?
- If by 'high-speed Internet' such as Cable Modem, DSL, Satellite - is
there a router (netgear, linksys, d-link or even one provided by the ISP)
that separates you from the Internet and allows you to utilize more than
one computer on said connection (by ethernet cable or wireless?)
- How many users utilize your computer?
- Do you utilize an administrative level account for your daily
activities - or have you created a 'limited user' to use daily - only
logging in with administrative rights when you need to install/remove
software/etc?


In my experience - if you do have an Internet router that already
provides NAT (which is some level of protection between yourself and the
Internet) -- then the Windows Firewall is more than sufficient (in some
cases - the Windows Firewall is more than sufficient even without the
router - but the router definitely puts it over the edge.) The Windows
XPSP2 firewall is not a 'true' firewall by some definitions- because it
monitors incoming traffic - not outgoing. So if you infest yourself with
something and it secretly starts communicating with the outside world -
you may not know. However - if you utilize common computing sense - the
chances of you getting infested with anything drop considerably.

If you want to learn a bit about cleaning up and properly maintaining and
securing what you have, I suggest going through this list of tips and
doing so. You'll come out WAY ahead as far as your computer's (and thus
your data, etc) safety and security.
snip list

walt wrote:
I have seen many of your posts (Shenan Stanley) and have followed
and passed on your comments. I respect all that give their opinions
and hope to learn from you all.

I use dial-up ISP do not have anything faster, live in a rural
area. Only my wife and I use the computer. Do not know alot about
computers I guess just enough to get myself in trouble at times
(like now)

Harry O. has helped with a lot of things in the past. My
wife surfs the net often but I try and keep the spam blocked as
best I can with the before mentioned software I also have the
"Google toolbar" My ISP is very good at filtering out spam from my
email. I use Outlook Express.

I will have to read through all your tips again as it has been a while
since last read. I do use Google for my search engine and home page.
If you need anymore information let me know, and again thanks for
all the input from all.


Given that information - I think you would end up with better overall
computer performance and sufficient firewall protection from just a
properly configured Windows XP SP2 firewall. Having dial-up - there is no
one constantly trying to hack into your system - not even 'bots'. The
speed (lack of? *grin*) of your connection and the liklihood that you are
not connected 24/7 help a lot in your systems security.

You will likely notice a large performance increase just removing the
Norton product and utilizing something that will surely utilize 2-5 times
less memory/processor time to do the same (or better) job at protecting
you against viruses. Combine that with a few antispyware products (you
might consider AVG AntiVirus and AVG AntiSpyware solutions - free,
resident protection and easy on system resources) to fully protect your
system but leave as much speed as you can muster out of it.

Tips 9 and 10 may be where you want to concentrate first out of the list I
gave you earlier. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"walt" wrote in message
...
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something different. I
don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if something is better
that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so many being talked about, which
would be the best for me to get? I am on dial up so down loading a large
program could be difficult for me. Any help would be appreciated.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Reply at the bottom to maintain dialog order...

snip

Eset's NOD32 is a frontrunner, certainly worth checking out. I think their
newest version now goes beyond AV to include security as well (firewall,
anti-malware, spam blocker); it would be a shame if they have stopped
offering just AV.

Thank you for the tip, I will check it out.
"Olórin" wrote in message
...

"walt" wrote in message
...
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something different. I
don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if something is better
that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so many being talked about,
which would be the best for me to get? I am on dial up so down loading a
large program could be difficult for me. Any help would be appreciated.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
Reply at the bottom to maintain dialog order...

snip

Eset's NOD32 is a frontrunner, certainly worth checking out. I think their
newest version now goes beyond AV to include security as well (firewall,
anti-malware, spam blocker); it would be a shame if they have stopped
offering just AV.

walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better than
a free option and don't think that the free options being pushed by people
on these newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do their job as
well if not better than the pay options in the case of the ones that do get
pushed. In the case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason they get listed in
my tips as well as McAfee and Norton is that they do the same job as well or
better than the latter two *and* they end up costing less and using up less
of your valuable system resources to do their job.

Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_anti-virus

McAfee VirusScan (~$39.99 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ons/antivirus/
(Free Online Scanner:
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ns/activescan/)

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$39.99 and up)
http://snipurl.com/13e12

Trend Micro (~$44.95 and up)
http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products...are/index.html (Free Online Scanner: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/)Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have tolook into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finallysettle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) andperform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but afull scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)--Shenan Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I did see this section of your tips, but being the novice that I am, I have
no idea which would be the better one for me. The easiest for me to use and
keep updated. I hear so much about AVG and AVAST it kind of confuses me of
which is the better (if there is) that is why I am asking the questions, not
to make another foolish choice. Thanks you very much for your help and
impute it is greatly appreciated.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better
than a free option and don't think that the free options being pushed by
people on these newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do
their job as well if not better than the pay options in the case of the
ones that do get pushed. In the case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason
they get listed in my tips as well as McAfee and Norton is that they do
the same job as well or better than the latter two *and* they end up
costing less and using up less of your valuable system resources to do
their job.

Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_anti-virus

McAfee VirusScan (~$39.99 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ons/antivirus/
(Free Online Scanner:
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ns/activescan/)

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$39.99 and up)
http://snipurl.com/13e12

Trend Micro (~$44.95 and up)
http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products...are/index.html
(Free Online Scanner: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/)Most of them have
automatic update capabilities. You will have tolook into the features of
the one you choose. Whatever one you finallysettle with - be SURE to keep
it updated (I recommend at least daily) andperform a full scan
periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but afull scan once a month
at 4AM probably won't bother you.)--Shenan Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask
Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can google for some reviews on products.
AVAST
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVAST+review

AVG
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ew&btnG=Search

Or:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...review&spell=1

JS

"walt" wrote in message
...
I did see this section of your tips, but being the novice that I am, I have
no idea which would be the better one for me. The easiest for me to use and
keep updated. I hear so much about AVG and AVAST it kind of confuses me of
which is the better (if there is) that is why I am asking the questions,
not to make another foolish choice. Thanks you very much for your help and
impute it is greatly appreciated.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better
than a free option and don't think that the free options being pushed by
people on these newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do
their job as well if not better than the pay options in the case of the
ones that do get pushed. In the case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason
they get listed in my tips as well as McAfee and Norton is that they do
the same job as well or better than the latter two *and* they end up
costing less and using up less of your valuable system resources to do
their job.

Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_anti-virus

McAfee VirusScan (~$39.99 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ons/antivirus/
(Free Online Scanner:
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ns/activescan/)

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$39.99 and up)
http://snipurl.com/13e12

Trend Micro (~$44.95 and up)
http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products...are/index.html
(Free Online Scanner: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/)Most of them have
automatic update capabilities. You will have tolook into the features of
the one you choose. Whatever one you finallysettle with - be SURE to
keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) andperform a full scan
periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but afull scan once a month
at 4AM probably won't bother you.)--Shenan Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask
Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

I don't know why but on the web based reader it started a new thread? At home
I can use Outlook Express and it's all in the same thread? Anyway thank you
everyone for your impute. I still don't know which is the best for me? All
the reviews say that their product is the best. Decisions, decisions.

"JS" wrote:

You can google for some reviews on products.
AVAST
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AVAST+review

AVG
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ew&btnG=Search

Or:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...review&spell=1

JS

"walt" wrote in message
...
I did see this section of your tips, but being the novice that I am, I have
no idea which would be the better one for me. The easiest for me to use and
keep updated. I hear so much about AVG and AVAST it kind of confuses me of
which is the better (if there is) that is why I am asking the questions,
not to make another foolish choice. Thanks you very much for your help and
impute it is greatly appreciated.
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better
than a free option and don't think that the free options being pushed by
people on these newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do
their job as well if not better than the pay options in the case of the
ones that do get pushed. In the case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason
they get listed in my tips as well as McAfee and Norton is that they do
the same job as well or better than the latter two *and* they end up
costing less and using up less of your valuable system resources to do
their job.

Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_anti-virus

McAfee VirusScan (~$39.99 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ons/antivirus/
(Free Online Scanner:
http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeuse...ns/activescan/)

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$39.99 and up)
http://snipurl.com/13e12

Trend Micro (~$44.95 and up)
http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products...are/index.html
(Free Online Scanner: http://housecall.trendmicro.com/)Most of them have
automatic update capabilities. You will have tolook into the features of
the one you choose. Whatever one you finallysettle with - be SURE to
keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) andperform a full scan
periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but afull scan once a month
at 4AM probably won't bother you.)--Shenan Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask
Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"walt" wrote in message
...
I still don't know which is the best for me? All
the reviews say that their product is the best. Decisions, decisions.


There can't be much in it or it would show through in all the reviews.

I suggest trawling through plenty of reviews, to get a feel for the bad as
well as good points, then make a decision - which will have to be yours, we
can't make it for you.

I've used AVG Free for years but in the last fortnight have started trying
out Avast on a different PC. Not because of any dissatisfaction with AVG but
just to see how the other half lives, to get a personal view of the product.

Overriding this, I'd say that of more import than the narrow decision as to
*which* of these products to go for is the implementation of good (safe)
practice when on the Internet.

Thanks for the information, I am still unsure if it's better to get the
"paid for" with a little more "bells" or just the basic and continue using
my other spam blockers.
"Olórin" wrote in message
...

"walt" wrote in message
...
I still don't know which is the best for me? All
the reviews say that their product is the best. Decisions, decisions.


There can't be much in it or it would show through in all the reviews.

I suggest trawling through plenty of reviews, to get a feel for the bad as
well as good points, then make a decision - which will have to be yours,
we can't make it for you.

I've used AVG Free for years but in the last fortnight have started trying
out Avast on a different PC. Not because of any dissatisfaction with AVG
but just to see how the other half lives, to get a personal view of the
product.

Overriding this, I'd say that of more import than the narrow decision as
to *which* of these products to go for is the implementation of good
(safe) practice when on the Internet.

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better than a free
option and don't think that the free options being pushed by people on these
newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do their job as well if not
better than the pay options in the case of the ones that do get pushed. In the
case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason they get listed in my tips as well as
McAfee and Norton is that they do the same job as well or better than the latter
two *and* they end up costing less and using up less of your valuable system
resources to do their job.

BS!! Norton, no way - McAfee yes. Granted, where bloat comes into play Symantec
has the leading edge of it, yet all of the other companies are not far behind in
todays times of the ever intensifying battle between the protection providers and
protection busters. As for resource usage, everyones mileage varies in
system/application performance depending on their system setup and maintenence
routine.

According to reports for 2007 alone at av-comparatives, Norton AV performed better
than Avast, AVG and many other products in both the On-Demand comparative and
Retrospective/Pro Active tests, AVG was absolutely pitiful in the Retrospective/Pro
Active test.


Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

Is this what you were looking at?
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seite...se_2007_08.php

--
All the best,
SG
How to Write a Newsgroup Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet



"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better
than a free option and don't think that the free options being pushed by
people on these newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do
their job as well if not better than the pay options in the case of the
ones that do get pushed. In the case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason
they get listed in my tips as well as McAfee and Norton is that they do
the same job as well or better than the latter two *and* they end up
costing less and using up less of your valuable system resources to do
their job.

BS!! Norton, no way - McAfee yes. Granted, where bloat comes into play
Symantec has the leading edge of it, yet all of the other companies are
not far behind in todays times of the ever intensifying battle between the
protection providers and protection busters. As for resource usage,
everyones mileage varies in system/application performance depending on
their system setup and maintenence routine.

According to reports for 2007 alone at av-comparatives, Norton AV
performed better than Avast, AVG and many other products in both the
On-Demand comparative and Retrospective/Pro Active tests, AVG was
absolutely pitiful in the Retrospective/Pro Active test.


Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )


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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

All 3 of the result reports for 2007. The 2 On-Demand comparative (Feb and Aug)
and 1 Retrospective/Pro Active tests (May), the second Retrospective/Pro Active test
will be soon this month.


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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"SG" wrote in message
...
Is this what you were looking at?
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seite...se_2007_08.php

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All the best,
SG
How to Write a Newsgroup Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet



"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
...
"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
walt wrote:
OK I have decided to remove Norton 2008 and get something
different. I don't have to have a "free" anti-virus" program if
something is better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. With so
many being talked about, which would be the best for me to get? I
am on dial up so down loading a large program could be difficult
for me. Any help would be appreciated. "Shenan Stanley"

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better than a
free option and don't think that the free options being pushed by people on these
newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do their job as well if not
better than the pay options in the case of the ones that do get pushed. In the
case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason they get listed in my tips as well as
McAfee and Norton is that they do the same job as well or better than the latter
two *and* they end up costing less and using up less of your valuable system
resources to do their job.

BS!! Norton, no way - McAfee yes. Granted, where bloat comes into play Symantec
has the leading edge of it, yet all of the other companies are not far behind in
todays times of the ever intensifying battle between the protection providers and
protection busters. As for resource usage, everyones mileage varies in
system/application performance depending on their system setup and maintenence
routine.

According to reports for 2007 alone at av-comparatives, Norton AV performed
better than Avast, AVG and many other products in both the On-Demand comparative
and Retrospective/Pro Active tests, AVG was absolutely pitiful in the
Retrospective/Pro Active test.


Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like mo

( Good Comparison Page for AV softwa http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375