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I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model
100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? -- Zaidy036 |
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On 24/10/2017 03:43, Zaidy036 wrote:
I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Yes Just type: E:\setup /auto upgrade You can also just type setup and the system will upgrade your system. E:\setup.exe -- With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036
wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 What is the RAM limit and why does it matter? I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. Can you make an image with Reflect then put in a larger HD? QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? No difference. You will still not be able to free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. Take it to a computer shop. |
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Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036 wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 What is the RAM limit and why does it matter? I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. Can you make an image with Reflect then put in a larger HD? QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? No difference. You will still not be able to free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. Take it to a computer shop. Who needs a computer shop :-) https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptop.../p/88EM10S0639 Atom Z3735F 4 core, 1.33GHz base $18 RAM Up to 2GB DDR3L 1333 MHz, single channel Storage Up to 32GB eMMC microSD card slot To do an install, keep a microSD card handy. You should be able to use the MicroSD for other purposes later. The installation process can use the microSD as a "scratchpad", to compensate for the low amount of remaining storage on the eMMC. You could probably get a 32GB SDHC microSD. Check the manual first to see the max microSD size that works. "So moving onto the boxes, which is where the fun begins: there's a whole bunch of different designs & features available. They come with eMMC SSD drives in various sizes, including 16, 32, and 64gb - typically 32gb, which leaves about 20 gigs free for your files, which is small, but you can expand it with a MicroSD card (most devices max out at either 64gb or 128gb MicroSD, depending on the model)." That suggests a 32GB MicroSD would work. It could be that the SD interface is on the SOC, but I wasn't able to confirm that. The user manual should really have the necessary info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital SDSC (SD): 1 MB to 2 GB, some 4 GB were made SDHC: 2 GB to 32 GB --- 32GB ones exist, could hold Windows.old SDXC: 32 GB to 2 TB ******* There is a tool to put Windows ISOs on USB sticks. This should work for Vista or later. "Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool (extracts from ISO9660 file and copies files to USB stick)" The first link is the README, the second link the download. http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe There can be an issue with bootsect.exe, so if it fails to finish installing on USB, that's probably the reason. Lenovo MicroSD -- 00S-11IBY -- USB 8GB stick prepared by Scratch the Win7 tool, and ~3.5GB ISO Storage Since this is an Upgrade install, you run Setup.exe off the USB key (from the existing Win10 desktop screen). The USB key should show up as a drive letter, and at the top level, there should be a Setup.exe file. Double-click to launch it. The 2GB of RAM in the system should be fine - the OS min is 1GB. The tested min is 256MB (I could run Notepad). The "comfort" min is maybe 350MB. The memory compressor doesn't have to run quite as hard. With 256MB, Firefox probably wouldn't start :-) Microsoft specs 1GB, to leave some elbow room. HTH, Paul |
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On 24/10/2017 10:43 AM, Zaidy036 wrote:
QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Not answering your question: Backup your data and do a clean install! It removes uncertainties! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036
wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Yes. Open the upgrade and run setup.exe KenW |
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036 wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Yes. Open the upgrade and run setup.exe KenW That's a good point. You can actually mount the ISO file in Explorer, without making a USB stick or a DVD. That works, because the first stage of installation, copies all necessary files, so when the mount is not available after intermediate reboot, it doesn't matter. Having a USB stick handy, is useful if you need a way to do maintenance (the install didn't finish for some reason, and you were trying to rescue it). But I think I'd rather have Macrium on the USB stick, just in case I needed to do a restore when the upgrade fails. Upgrades are pretty reliable now, in that they roll back, even if the OS fails on the first reboot after it's all supposed to be done. At one time, Win10 installs could break just when they were rebooting to the desktop for the first time, and the revert didn't work. But that's fixed now. Doing backups now, is to protect against "unknown unknowns" :-) Paul |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:58:56 -0600, KenW
wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036 wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Yes. Open the upgrade and run setup.exe He cannot free up enough space. KenW |
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KenW wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:28:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:58:56 -0600, KenW wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036 wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Yes. Open the upgrade and run setup.exe He cannot free up enough space. KenW Screwed ! KenW The installer for tablets, accepts an SD card for "scratch space". A dialog, noting the lack of space, should appear on the screen, inviting the operator to run off to Walmart and pick up an SD. I hope the dialog tells the operator what size to buy :-) http://www.thewindowsclub.com/upgrad...ace-windows-10 "Choose another drive or attach an external drive with 9.00 GB available" I expect a USB key would also work. Since the dialog does indicate the size, you get some advanced warning. Clicking the "X" should stop the install, if you have no external storage to offer the machine. "Challenged" but not "screwed" :-) Thank goodness, eventually, more 64GB eMMCs will show up in computers, to make this a less common experience. eMMCs are small, because they "only want to give you one chip", as a measure of their cheapness. The flash storage offered, is constrained by whatever a single chip can provide inside the tablet. It's too bad the supply of flash is tight, and will remain tight in 2018, and thus there will be an incentive until 2019, to be stuffing the too-small 32GB ones in there. HTH, Paul |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:26:22 -0400, Paul
wrote: KenW wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 08:28:15 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:58:56 -0600, KenW wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:43:26 -0400, Zaidy036 wrote: I have a RAM limited light weight Lenovo laptop for traveling, model 100S-11IBY 80R2 I cannot free up enough space to do the Win 10 upgrade BEFORE Creators edition. QUESTION: Can I do the upgrade using a Win 10 ISO on a USB stick or DVD? Yes. Open the upgrade and run setup.exe He cannot free up enough space. KenW Screwed ! KenW The installer for tablets, accepts an SD card for "scratch space". A dialog, noting the lack of space, should appear on the screen, inviting the operator to run off to Walmart and pick up an SD. I hope the dialog tells the operator what size to buy :-) http://www.thewindowsclub.com/upgrad...ace-windows-10 "Choose another drive or attach an external drive with 9.00 GB available" I expect a USB key would also work. Since the dialog does indicate the size, you get some advanced warning. Clicking the "X" should stop the install, if you have no external storage to offer the machine. "Challenged" but not "screwed" :-) Thank goodness, eventually, more 64GB eMMCs will show up in computers, to make this a less common experience. eMMCs are small, because they "only want to give you one chip", as a measure of their cheapness. The flash storage offered, is constrained by whatever a single chip can provide inside the tablet. It's too bad the supply of flash is tight, and will remain tight in 2018, and thus there will be an incentive until 2019, to be stuffing the too-small 32GB ones in there. I have a 128 GB USB thunb drive. HTH, HAND? Paul |
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Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 19:26:22 -0400, Paul wrote: HTH, HAND? I looked it up on Wikipedia and it turned out to be "Highway To Hell". But there are other possibilities... http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hth "hope this helps" Paul |
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