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Getting a router
Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no
wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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Hi
There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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Hi
There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote:
Hi There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. I can see one very good reason for getting a Wire only Router, Security. If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I don't think any wireless routers come with the wireless section disabled, and most default to a simple security setting and password. Unless the user is smart enough to disable the wireless or turn up the security and password the whole neighborhood can use their connection. This may not seem much of a problem unless someone uses your router for illegal activities and the police come to your door. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote:
Hi There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. I can see one very good reason for getting a Wire only Router, Security. If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I don't think any wireless routers come with the wireless section disabled, and most default to a simple security setting and password. Unless the user is smart enough to disable the wireless or turn up the security and password the whole neighborhood can use their connection. This may not seem much of a problem unless someone uses your router for illegal activities and the police come to your door. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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The wireless facility of the Linksys WRT54GS can be turned off if so
desired. Jim "Michael W. Ryder" wrote in message ... Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote: Hi There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. I can see one very good reason for getting a Wire only Router, Security. If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I don't think any wireless routers come with the wireless section disabled, and most default to a simple security setting and password. Unless the user is smart enough to disable the wireless or turn up the security and password the whole neighborhood can use their connection. This may not seem much of a problem unless someone uses your router for illegal activities and the police come to your door. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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The wireless facility of the Linksys WRT54GS can be turned off if so
desired. Jim "Michael W. Ryder" wrote in message ... Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote: Hi There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. I can see one very good reason for getting a Wire only Router, Security. If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I don't think any wireless routers come with the wireless section disabled, and most default to a simple security setting and password. Unless the user is smart enough to disable the wireless or turn up the security and password the whole neighborhood can use their connection. This may not seem much of a problem unless someone uses your router for illegal activities and the police come to your door. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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Jim wrote:
The wireless facility of the Linksys WRT54GS can be turned off if so desired. Jim The problem is that is is not turned off by default and can be turned on even after it is disabled. If it could be removed I would have no problem. Anyone working with regulated material, such as medical records, needs to be sure that no unauthorized people can get access to that information. Having a wireless link is just another hole that has to be plugged and monitored. If you ever turn on a laptop at home and try to connect to a wireless connection you might see several available. Many of these are not secured and the owners might not even be aware of the problem. "Michael W. Ryder" wrote in message ... Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote: Hi There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. I can see one very good reason for getting a Wire only Router, Security. If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I don't think any wireless routers come with the wireless section disabled, and most default to a simple security setting and password. Unless the user is smart enough to disable the wireless or turn up the security and password the whole neighborhood can use their connection. This may not seem much of a problem unless someone uses your router for illegal activities and the police come to your door. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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Jim wrote:
The wireless facility of the Linksys WRT54GS can be turned off if so desired. Jim The problem is that is is not turned off by default and can be turned on even after it is disabled. If it could be removed I would have no problem. Anyone working with regulated material, such as medical records, needs to be sure that no unauthorized people can get access to that information. Having a wireless link is just another hole that has to be plugged and monitored. If you ever turn on a laptop at home and try to connect to a wireless connection you might see several available. Many of these are not secured and the owners might not even be aware of the problem. "Michael W. Ryder" wrote in message ... Jack [MVP-Networking] wrote: Hi There is No reason to get Wire only Router since they cost the same (and sometimes even more) than Wireless Routers. I can see one very good reason for getting a Wire only Router, Security. If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I don't think any wireless routers come with the wireless section disabled, and most default to a simple security setting and password. Unless the user is smart enough to disable the wireless or turn up the security and password the whole neighborhood can use their connection. This may not seem much of a problem unless someone uses your router for illegal activities and the police come to your door. Thus rather than being "Outcast" you would end up considered Not being price/business savvy. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) "JimL" wrote in message ... Just exactly how "deprived" should I feel if I had a router with no wireless? Would that make me an outcast in polite society? -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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"Michael W. Ryder" wrote
If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I've been thinking the same thing. I can easily cable to the most likely place to use the laptop away from the base (directly overhead). Using wireless seems to be almost a matter of luck anyway. Is there a maximum cable length for direct connecting? Thanks -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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"Michael W. Ryder" wrote
If you don't need or use the wireless section then not having it makes the router much more secure. I've been thinking the same thing. I can easily cable to the most likely place to use the laptop away from the base (directly overhead). Using wireless seems to be almost a matter of luck anyway. Is there a maximum cable length for direct connecting? Thanks -- JimL The purpose of complicated software is to provide excitement for geeks with not enough to do; busy people can go suck eggs. Winstun Churchhill |
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JimL wrote:
Is there a maximum cable length for direct connecting? Thanks http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7800 -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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JimL wrote:
Is there a maximum cable length for direct connecting? Thanks http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7800 -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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"Michael W. Ryder" wrote
Is there a maximum cable length for direct connecting? 90m is the spec, though in practice it will tolerate about 120-150m in good conditions. One security issue with wireless, as you correctly identify, is that most routers have it turned-on but unencrypted as-supplied to make initial setup easier, thus an accidental router hard-reset or NVRAM fault may leave it as a public connection. Exactly how much risk this poses is open to question. If the NVRAM has defaulted then the Internet connection won't work, although any internal computers with unprotected shares may be at risk. Chances are the fact that the Internet connection has stopped working would be noticed before an intrusion occurred. |
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"Michael W. Ryder" wrote
Is there a maximum cable length for direct connecting? 90m is the spec, though in practice it will tolerate about 120-150m in good conditions. One security issue with wireless, as you correctly identify, is that most routers have it turned-on but unencrypted as-supplied to make initial setup easier, thus an accidental router hard-reset or NVRAM fault may leave it as a public connection. Exactly how much risk this poses is open to question. If the NVRAM has defaulted then the Internet connection won't work, although any internal computers with unprotected shares may be at risk. Chances are the fact that the Internet connection has stopped working would be noticed before an intrusion occurred. |
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