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Tool bar icons i Windows Live Mail
Is it possible to make the smaller and how ?
Thanks - J. |
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Hi, McGrath.
The WLM "Tool Bar"? What is that? The QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) is only about a quarter-inch high and those icons are already pretty small. Do you mean the Ribbon? That inch-high bar across the top? I don't think that we mere mortals have any way of changing the sizes of those icons. As you have probably learned, we can vary the length of the Ribbon indirectly by changing the size of the WLM window, but that is not what you have in mind, is it? So far as I know, there is no way for us to reduce the height of the ribbon or to resize its icons. I hope somebody else knows how to do it. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8.1 Pro "McGrath" wrote in message ... Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. |
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McGrath wrote:
Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Right-click in an unused area of the *ribbon*. Select "Minimize the Ribbon". That will hide the *ribbon* with only its tabs showing. Click on a ribbon tab to momentarily expand the ribbon. The ribbon will disappear (minimize) when you focus elsewhere. So just get it completely out of your way instead of making it smaller. By the way, the Windows Live Mail newsgroup is thatta way ___ __________________________________________________ __________| | |___ microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop And, no, there is no customization option to use smaller icons in the ribbon. |
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McGrath wrote:
Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. Not possible. The size is hard coded, not even a registry key available for tampering. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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McGrath wrote:
Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. The documentation here, says the Ribbon has a "Scaling Policy". It's unclear if you could trick the ribbon in an application, to be "wider" than normal, forcing everything in the ribbon to shrink or scale. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.85).aspx So the question would be, can the user edit the ribbon, and add elements to it ? If so, there might be hope. Paul |
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""...winston‫"" wrote in message
... McGrath wrote: Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. Not possible. The size is hard coded, not even a registry key available for tampering. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps Thank you Winston, I wonder whos idea the kind and the size of icons it was, Balmers ? Once he's gone the option os "small or large" icons should return to the ribon or tool bar, whatever it's named now...- |
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"Paul" wrote in message
... McGrath wrote: Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. The documentation here, says the Ribbon has a "Scaling Policy". It's unclear if you could trick the ribbon in an application, to be "wider" than normal, forcing everything in the ribbon to shrink or scale. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.85).aspx So the question would be, can the user edit the ribbon, and add elements to it ? If so, there might be hope. Paul Thank you Paul, It explains a lot, but still I cannot make it small for some reason. Thanks - |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
... McGrath wrote: Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Right-click in an unused area of the *ribbon*. Select "Minimize the Ribbon". That will hide the *ribbon* with only its tabs showing. Click on a ribbon tab to momentarily expand the ribbon. The ribbon will disappear (minimize) when you focus elsewhere. So just get it completely out of your way instead of making it smaller. By the way, the Windows Live Mail newsgroup is thatta way ___ __________________________________________________ __________| | |___ microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop And, no, there is no customization option to use smaller icons in the ribbon. Thanks Vanguard, I know how to minimize the "Ribbon" - but still can't make smaller these ugly colossal icons in main Toolbar (Home, Folders, View Accounts) which is above or below the Quick access toolbar. Thanks. |
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"R. C. White" wrote in message
ecom... Hi, McGrath. The WLM "Tool Bar"? What is that? The QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) is only about a quarter-inch high and those icons are already pretty small. Do you mean the Ribbon? That inch-high bar across the top? I don't think that we mere mortals have any way of changing the sizes of those icons. As you have probably learned, we can vary the length of the Ribbon indirectly by changing the size of the WLM window, but that is not what you have in mind, is it? So far as I know, there is no way for us to reduce the height of the ribbon or to resize its icons. I hope somebody else knows how to do it. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8.1 Pro Thanks R.C., Indeed, there is no way to reduce the size of icons in the maim Ribbon or Toolbar. Well, may be with Balmer's retirement - the old and good features will return to Windows Mail...- Thanks anyway. "McGrath" wrote in message ... Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. |
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McGrath wrote:
"VanguardLH" wrote ... McGrath wrote: Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Right-click in an unused area of the *ribbon*. Select "Minimize the Ribbon". That will hide the *ribbon* with only its tabs showing. Click on a ribbon tab to momentarily expand the ribbon. The ribbon will disappear (minimize) when you focus elsewhere. So just get it completely out of your way instead of making it smaller. I know how to minimize the "Ribbon" - but still can't make smaller these ugly colossal icons in main Toolbar (Home, Folders, View Accounts) which is above or below the Quick access toolbar. I assumed the intention of your query was to regain some otherwise wasted screen real estate, not because you don't like the look of the icons. If the ribbon is hidden then you would infrequently see those ugly colossal icons. Most of what gets done in WLM doesn't require the ribbon plus lots of functions are available by right-clicking on a folder, a message, or within a message. If WLM is new to you then I can see why you would want to continually see the ribbon; else, you should be spending most of your time reading your e-mail instead of playing with the program while wasting screen space with the ribbon. Although not the answer you were hoping for, WLM doesn't let you modify the icons in its ribbon either regarding size or whether they appear at all (i.e., text label buttons versus graphic+text buttons). No one has heard (or mentioned they know) of a Wave 6 version of Windows Essentials that might have a later version of WLM. Besides, with Microsoft's history, another new GUI doesn't mean it would be a better GUI. What you have now in WLM is what it will probably have for a long time. Of course, and if feasible with your monitor and video card/chip, you could up the screen resolution so everything gets smaller on the screen, including graphical icons, and then up the DPI to make just the text look bigger. Alas, a larger DPI can result in text getting truncated text inside the area where it is shown (the author didn't make their program DPI-aware). Basically you would be trying to make everything look smaller except the text. A program may use its own images to show text (just because it looks like text doesn't mean it is) so changing the DPI in Windows wouldn't affect that embedded text in a graphic. |
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McGrath wrote:
""...winston‫"" wrote in message ... McGrath wrote: Is it possible to make the smaller and how ? Thanks - J. Not possible. The size is hard coded, not even a registry key available for tampering. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps Thank you Winston, I wonder whos idea the kind and the size of icons it was, Balmers ? Once he's gone the option os "small or large" icons should return to the ribon or tool bar, whatever it's named now...- Doubt Ballmer had the idea or final approval. It's more likely (size of icon) is borrowed from /designed by the Office Team). Windows Live Essentials and Windows Essentials desktop suite of programs for all practical purposes are legacy-ware. No new, no reversion to old...fixed code, free, use/accept as-is. WLM has a ribbon and a Quick Access Toolbar. If you need small icons, use the latter. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On 27/01/2014 4:43 AM, "...winston‫" wrote:
Doubt Ballmer had the idea or final approval. It's more likely (size of icon) is borrowed from /designed by the Office Team). Windows Live Essentials and Windows Essentials desktop suite of programs for all practical purposes are legacy-ware. No new, no reversion to old...fixed code, free, use/accept as-is. WLM has a ribbon and a Quick Access Toolbar. If you need small icons, use the latter. Is that Microsoft's official position on the software? That it's to be used as-is with no improvement or fixes along the way? -- Silver Slimer GNU/Linux is Communism |
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Silver Slimer wrote:
On 27/01/2014 4:43 AM, "...winston‫" wrote: Doubt Ballmer had the idea or final approval. It's more likely (size of icon) is borrowed from /designed by the Office Team). Windows Live Essentials and Windows Essentials desktop suite of programs for all practical purposes are legacy-ware. No new, no reversion to old...fixed code, free, use/accept as-is. WLM has a ribbon and a Quick Access Toolbar. If you need small icons, use the latter. Is that Microsoft's official position on the software? That it's to be used as-is with no improvement or fixes along the way? The Live Platform and branding was discontinued. Live Photo Gallery and Live Movie Maker rebranded as Photo Gallery and Movie Maker and packaged as on single installable application. Live Messenger deprecated except for mainland China until next year, with Messenger replaced by Skype. Live Mesh replaced by SkyDrive. Live Mail and Live Writer save a few under the hood changes to enhance robustness of synchronization with Hotmail type accounts and SkyDrive are unchanged. No GUI changes since release 3years ago. All development for mail clients besides Outlook 2013 and later is focused on Windows 8x and later and Windows Phone 8 and later. No improvements, no patches - the Live brand was finally phased out in August 2012. What you see, what you have....is what you get....old code, no changes, nothing more. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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....winston‫ wrote:
Live Mesh replaced by SkyDrive. SkyDrive replaced by OneDrive. :-) Copyright dispute, and MS lost: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57...ches-skydrive- for-onedrive-after-bskyb-dispute/ -- -bts -I wonder if the MS naming researcher was fired... |
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
...winston‫ wrote: Live Mesh replaced by SkyDrive. SkyDrive replaced by OneDrive. :-) Copyright dispute, and MS lost: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57...ches-skydrive- for-onedrive-after-bskyb-dispute/ Reminds me of when Radio Shack would send out threatening letters from their lawyers telling business with "Shack" in their company name that Tandy would sue them on trademark infringement. A local company called "CD Shack" got scared and changed their name (don't remember to what) but Tandy was going nationwide with their threats. So this BSkyB company (sky.com) wants "Sky" to be their trademark and not allow its used within another name. So how long before BSkyB goes after Google Sky (http://www.google.com/sky/)? Or go after the SkySports, SeaAndSky, Sky.FM, and TeamSky web sites? So who would win: BSkyB or SkyNet? The lawyers versus the Terminator. Man, I'd sure watch that movie. Rip 'em apart, watch em scream like little girls. I remember how everyone in the theatre cheered when the lawyer got chomped in Jurassaic Park. |
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