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UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.
HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64
I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens. This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows 8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd. I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks |
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UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.
Bob Evans writted thus
HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64 I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens. This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows 8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd. I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by changing the boot order from F9. I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash the Bios to see. I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here... -- Free Dropbox: http://db.tt/aI6WBZ7w |
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:10:13 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC), tigger wrote: Bob Evans writted thus HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64 I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens. This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows 8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd. I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by changing the boot order from F9. I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash the Bios to see. I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here... I had the same question about my Asus notebook. Here is a past from what the wrote back. May help or not. Then please get to the BIOS and then set the “Launch CSM” option to Enable and the "Fast Boot" option to Disable,then insert the install disk. Restart your notebook. Press ESC when you see the ASUS logo, and then choose to boot with DVD to install. KenW I disabled Secure Boot, enabled Lagacy Support which puts me in CSM mode (there is no listing for CSM) Fast Boot is not listed in the bios on this notebook. This is a low end notebook from HP. In Lagacy mode the Windows 8.1 DVD starts to load, I get the flag, and the circling balls but it just dies after the balls stop. I can't boot a repair cd so I have no way to fix this that I can see. There is a recovery option (f11) which is going to be a lot of work to get the notebook up to date but this appears to be my only option at this point. I booted with a Linux Mint USB in order to move the data off the drive but Mint gets an error when I try to access the laptop HD. I will have to remove the hd (not easy) and remove the data with the hd hooked up to my pc. I'm hoping that somene here has a solution that is easier. |
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UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:07:16 -0700, Bob Evans
wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:10:13 -0600, Ken1943 wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC), tigger wrote: Bob Evans writted thus HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64 I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens. This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows 8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd. I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by changing the boot order from F9. I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash the Bios to see. I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here... I had the same question about my Asus notebook. Here is a past from what the wrote back. May help or not. Then please get to the BIOS and then set the “Launch CSM” option to Enable and the "Fast Boot" option to Disable,then insert the install disk. Restart your notebook. Press ESC when you see the ASUS logo, and then choose to boot with DVD to install. KenW I disabled Secure Boot, enabled Lagacy Support which puts me in CSM mode (there is no listing for CSM) Fast Boot is not listed in the bios on this notebook. This is a low end notebook from HP. In Lagacy mode the Windows 8.1 DVD starts to load, I get the flag, and the circling balls but it just dies after the balls stop. I can't boot a repair cd so I have no way to fix this that I can see. There is a recovery option (f11) which is going to be a lot of work to get the notebook up to date but this appears to be my only option at this point. I booted with a Linux Mint USB in order to move the data off the drive but Mint gets an error when I try to access the laptop HD. I will have to remove the hd (not easy) and remove the data with the hd hooked up to my pc. I'm hoping that somene here has a solution that is easier. I found some info that said press the f2 key on startup to access system tests. I did this and the notebook failed the Hard Drive Short DST test. The hard drive needs to be replaced so I guess that's next. I hope that after I replace the HD that I will be able to boot a Windows install disk. Would a dead hard drive cause the Windows DVD to fail booting? |
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UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.
Bob Evans wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:07:16 -0700, Bob Evans wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:10:13 -0600, Ken1943 wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC), tigger wrote: Bob Evans writted thus HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64 I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens. This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows 8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd. I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by changing the boot order from F9. I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash the Bios to see. I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here... I had the same question about my Asus notebook. Here is a past from what the wrote back. May help or not. Then please get to the BIOS and then set the “Launch CSM” option to Enable and the "Fast Boot" option to Disable,then insert the install disk. Restart your notebook. Press ESC when you see the ASUS logo, and then choose to boot with DVD to install. KenW I disabled Secure Boot, enabled Lagacy Support which puts me in CSM mode (there is no listing for CSM) Fast Boot is not listed in the bios on this notebook. This is a low end notebook from HP. In Lagacy mode the Windows 8.1 DVD starts to load, I get the flag, and the circling balls but it just dies after the balls stop. I can't boot a repair cd so I have no way to fix this that I can see. There is a recovery option (f11) which is going to be a lot of work to get the notebook up to date but this appears to be my only option at this point. I booted with a Linux Mint USB in order to move the data off the drive but Mint gets an error when I try to access the laptop HD. I will have to remove the hd (not easy) and remove the data with the hd hooked up to my pc. I'm hoping that somene here has a solution that is easier. I found some info that said press the f2 key on startup to access system tests. I did this and the notebook failed the Hard Drive Short DST test. The hard drive needs to be replaced so I guess that's next. I hope that after I replace the HD that I will be able to boot a Windows install disk. Would a dead hard drive cause the Windows DVD to fail booting? Unplug the drive and see ? I don't have a great deal of confidence in predicting what UEFI will do. My UEFI machine will always surprise me. I have to hammer F8 like mad on mine, to ensure I get a chance to specify the boot drive (via the popup menu). Otherwise, it may find the last hard drive it was using and boot that one. When it is in a "mind of its own" mood, it can commence booting the OS disk pretty quickly. And before binning a drive, I'd test it on another hardware platform. I connect my laptop drive to this machine I'm typing on, and do my testing and maintenance here. That's so I can get a "second opinion". I use the free version of HDTune, and examine the SMART tab. And look for things like Reallocated Sectors. http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe If the drive won't respond at all, on your test machine, well, that pretty well draws a conclusion. I don't really like how hard drives are designed. As far as I'm concerned, the controller board should *always* respond. It should have error codes like "cannot spin the spindle", or "actuator arm fails to slide down ramp". The policy of simply refusing to respond in any way, unless the drive accesses track -1, loads the ATA firmware, is in my opinion, pretty lame. It's a waste of diagnostic info from the controller board. I would prefer to know more about what the drive thinks is going on. Paul |
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"Bob Evans" :
Would a dead hard drive cause the Windows DVD to fail booting? It's not impossible, although rare IME. Many years ago I had a system - vague memory (not parity checked) says it was a Micron tower - that would wedge itself during POST if it found a disk with a particular flavor of corrupt boot sector, regardless of whether that disk was or was not going to be booted. It wouldn't even get into the BIOS setup; the disk had to be physically disconnected to get a boot to work. (I had to repair the disk on a different system.) A comment: UEFI is a significant (and much needed) improvement for security of computer systems; if implemented and used correctly it significantly reduces the attack surface for potential rootkit attacks - and those attacks are happening; they are not just a theoretical worry. The (or more correctly, "a") problem is that it *is* new, and manufacturers (and their help desk staff) are still on a learning curve. Joe |
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