Command Prompt on new HP 8.1

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:42:33 -0500, "R.H. Breener"
wrote:

R.H. Breener wrote:


Hold down the Windows key then hit "x". On the menu that pops up select
"Command Prompt (admin)"

That works. How would a new user know all these things?

I find that a simple Google query provides most answers, e.g.

how to remove blue rectangle from windows 8 screen

Then you don't have to wait until someone reading usenet offers a
suggestion. The above query yielded many suggestions to try - in less
than a second or two.

I also found answers to many of your queries using the above method.
Maybe something similar would work for you.

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 05:40:20 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

"Paul" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:
Typing COMMAND in the search window doesn't open it as Administrator as
it did on the Dell 8.1. All it says is Command Prompt at the top. How
do I get it to come up saying Administrator on the top? Clicking
Start/Command Prompt opens it the same.


You still need "Run As Administrator" for that.

In one OS, it's a right-click menu item.

In Windows 8, they put some buttons at the bottom.

http://www.eightforums.com/attachmen...a-search-1.jpg

The above refers to a CCleaner. There is nothing on the bottom of the
desktop that looks like that image on my W8.1. It doesn't say how to get
that "Run as Admin" button down on the bottom bar.


Zillions more here.

(
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html )

It says: 1. From the desktop or in Windows Explorer, right click or press
and hold on a program's shortcut or an EXE, BAT, CMD, VBS, or MSI file, and
click/tap on Run as administrator. (see screenshot below)

Can you explain what this means? Which program's Short Key and what is a
Short Key? Which program are they talking about? Which program's EXE, BAT,
CMD, VBS, or MSI file do I click on to Run as Administrator. (see screenshot
below).

The image shows it already done, not how to do it.


Paul

You *really* need to get a mentor or at least a book on Windows 8.1 and
work your way through it while sitting at the keyboard.

There are just too many things that mystify you for this newsgroup to be
of any assistance.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:37:38 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

I don't use
touch-screen. This is a laptop, not a Tablet.

Windows 8.x uses touchscreens on laptops and desktop as well as on
tablets.

Perhaps your laptop lacks a touch screen, but plenty of others have one.

He

http://tinyurl.com/l8p9cet (BestBuy.com)

It was about the third entry on the Best Buy page after I navigated to
Windows laptops. The first two might have had touchscreens, but the ads
didn't say so explicitly.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:21:41 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

You seem to have the ghost of Valorie haunting you. (inside joke)

Snicker...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Hi, Char.

You seem to have the ghost of Valorie haunting you. (inside joke)

Maybe you and I are the only ones here who remember past visits from R.H.
Breener and Valorie. ;^{

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro w/Media Center


"Char Jackson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:42:33 -0500, "R.H. Breener"
wrote:


"G. Morgan" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:

Typing COMMAND in the search window doesn't open it as Administrator as it
did on the Dell 8.1. All it says is Command Prompt at the top. How do I
get it to come up saying Administrator on the top? Clicking Start/Command
Prompt opens it the same.

Hold down the Windows key then hit "x". On the menu that pops up select
"Command Prompt (admin)"

That works. How would a new user know all these things?

Here's a pic I took and you can also see then aggravating annoying blue
boxes I'm talking about.

http://tinypic.com/m/ir484k/4

Have no idea... Maybe the dialog box asking if you want to run as admin?
You
cropped the screencap, is there a flashing icon on the taskbar?

No, you can't type in them. They're a known problem with W8/8.1. Just
Google Blue Rectangles in W8.

No flashing anything. There's a place to turn them off but it doesn't work.

The first Google hit said that you've probably inadvertently hit a keyboard
combination that turns on Narrator. Turn narrator off and the blue boxes
should be gone. No idea if it'll work for you.

You seem to have the ghost of Valorie haunting you. (inside joke)

https://yoo2080.wordpress.com/2014/0...-on-windows-8/

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 05:40:20 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

"Paul" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:
Typing COMMAND in the search window doesn't open it as Administrator as
it did on the Dell 8.1. All it says is Command Prompt at the top. How
do I get it to come up saying Administrator on the top? Clicking
Start/Command Prompt opens it the same.


You still need "Run As Administrator" for that.

In one OS, it's a right-click menu item.

In Windows 8, they put some buttons at the bottom.

http://www.eightforums.com/attachmen...a-search-1.jpg

The above refers to a CCleaner. There is nothing on the bottom of the
desktop that looks like that image on my W8.1. It doesn't say how to get
that "Run as Admin" button down on the bottom bar.


Zillions more here.

(
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html )

It says: 1. From the desktop or in Windows Explorer, right click or
press
and hold on a program's shortcut or an EXE, BAT, CMD, VBS, or MSI file,
and
click/tap on Run as administrator. (see screenshot below)

Can you explain what this means? Which program's Short Key and what is a
Short Key? Which program are they talking about? Which program's EXE,
BAT,
CMD, VBS, or MSI file do I click on to Run as Administrator. (see
screenshot
below).

The image shows it already done, not how to do it.


Paul

You *really* need to get a mentor or at least a book on Windows 8.1 and
work your way through it while sitting at the keyboard.

There are just too many things that mystify you for this newsgroup to be
of any assistance.

Not true at all. The problems always get worked out with help and
suggestions from here.


--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Monty" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:42:33 -0500, "R.H. Breener"
wrote:

R.H. Breener wrote:


Hold down the Windows key then hit "x". On the menu that pops up select
"Command Prompt (admin)"

That works. How would a new user know all these things?

I find that a simple Google query provides most answers, e.g.

how to remove blue rectangle from windows 8 screen

Then you don't have to wait until someone reading usenet offers a
suggestion. The above query yielded many suggestions to try - in less
than a second or two.

I also found answers to many of your queries using the above method.
Maybe something similar would work for you.


The rectangle is gone. It took a few tries.

R.H. Breener wrote:

No, you can't type in them. They're a known problem with W8/8.1. Just
Google Blue Rectangles in W8.


I've been running Win 8 since it went RTM 5 years ago. I've never seen what
you took a screencap of. How would I repro it?

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 21:01:52 -0600, R. C. White wrote:

Hi, Char.

You seem to have the ghost of Valorie haunting you. (inside joke)

Maybe you and I are the only ones here who remember past visits from R.H.
Breener and Valorie. ;^{

RC

Or maybe not...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Paul" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:

"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
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On 3/3/2015 4:16 AM, R.H. Breener wrote:
Typing COMMAND in the search window doesn't open it as Administrator as
it did on the Dell 8.1. All it says is Command Prompt at the top. How
do I get it to come up saying Administrator on the top? Clicking
Start/Command Prompt opens it the same.

Here's a pic I took and you can also see then aggravating annoying blue
boxes I'm talking about.

http://tinypic.com/m/ir484k/4

I believe to properly answer this you should specify whether you are
using an auxiliary program to replace the old Start Button, or running
Windows 8.1 from the new MS Icon start button. ie right click on the
MSIcon on the desktop to access all computer functions.

I'm using ClassicShell to get rid of the annoying tiles. I don't use
touch-screen. This is a laptop, not a Tablet. It's W-8.1.

That's been solved - now it's down to the blue rectangles I can't get rid
of. I tried both suggestions online and they remain.

Nothing gets rid of the Tile system. Programs like ClassicShell,
add menus, but they're not an attempt to totally re-define the OS.
You can still be unceremoniously thrown into a Tile at any time.
For example, maybe you click a .bmp image by accident in File Explorer,
and Paint opens in a Tile screen.

While in theory, you can damage the subsystem that allows
Metro tiles to render, if you then returned to the Desktop
screen, some of the decorations in there also get damaged.
Microsoft was careful to leave enough hooks, so Metro cannot
entirely, cleanly, be removed. It is part of Microsoft's business
plan, for you to buy Tile programs from the App Store - their
future profits picture, is based on the 30% overhead they
charge developers to sell software in that store. Metro
is not going away, ever.

That ****es me off - we pay for the OS and get spammed by MS.


The latest Windows updates for the software, are supposed
to have the new computer "select" the appropriate environment,
A desktop computer, starts in the desktop. If the machine has
a touchscreen, then it's more likely to start in the Tiles,
since the Tile interface is easier to work with when touch
is available.

It hasn't updated as far as I know.


I didn't have all the trouble you're having with this.
You need to get the tile window up. Even with ClassicShell,
tile country should still be accessible. ClassicShell is
not an attempt to "close down" a part of the computer.

Even if you could find and run "narrator.exe", that might
be sufficient to get the slide panel up on the screen.

*******

If you make a "swipe" motion, down the right edge of the screen,
that brings up the Charms on the right hand side of the screen.
There are various settings in there. Ease of Access should be
in there somewhere. You'll notice in this picture, that Narrator
is a choice on the left menu. So even swiping on the right, should
give you something to work with.

http://www.eightforums.com/attachmen...5ca 49d0e0acb

Paul

OK thanks - done.

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:37:38 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

I don't use
touch-screen. This is a laptop, not a Tablet.

Windows 8.x uses touchscreens on laptops and desktop as well as on
tablets.

Perhaps your laptop lacks a touch screen, but plenty of others have one.

Mine has touchscreen which I see no point in using. I use a mouse and
prefer it to leaning over a desk until my arms and back ache.


He

http://tinyurl.com/l8p9cet (BestBuy.com)

It was about the third entry on the Best Buy page after I navigated to
Windows laptops. The first two might have had touchscreens, but the ads
didn't say so explicitly.

That's not what I wanted and needed. I bought one with 12 GB RAM and a 1 TB
HD. I have too many personal and business associated files so need a large
HD and plenty of RAM. I didn't want touch screen but none of the stores had
this config without it.



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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"G. Morgan" wrote in message
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R.H. Breener wrote:

No, you can't type in them. They're a known problem with W8/8.1. Just
Google Blue Rectangles in W8.


I've been running Win 8 since it went RTM 5 years ago. I've never seen what
you took a screencap of. How would I repro it?

I have no idea. It's gone now. Google Blue Rectangles in W8.

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:12:03 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:37:38 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

I don't use
touch-screen. This is a laptop, not a Tablet.

Windows 8.x uses touchscreens on laptops and desktop as well as on
tablets.

Perhaps your laptop lacks a touch screen, but plenty of others have one.

Mine has touchscreen which I see no point in using. I use a mouse and
prefer it to leaning over a desk until my arms and back ache.


He

http://tinyurl.com/l8p9cet (BestBuy.com)

It was about the third entry on the Best Buy page after I navigated to
Windows laptops. The first two might have had touchscreens, but the ads
didn't say so explicitly.

That's not what I wanted and needed. I bought one with 12 GB RAM and a 1 TB
HD. I have too many personal and business associated files so need a large
HD and plenty of RAM. I didn't want touch screen but none of the stores had
this config without it.

You *seem* to understand that you don't need to use the touch screen,
but you don't seem to understand that if you do use it you don't have to
lean over it until your arms and back ache.

You also don't seem to understand that using it or not is your choice,
freely available to you, as it would be any user of a touch screen
computer[1], not something to complain about over and over.

Just don't use it. That solves the problem...

[1] Tablets and cellphones are really computers, but with one of them
you do have to use the touch screen, unless you obtain a third-party
keyboard.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 3/5/2015 11:26 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 16:12:03 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 08:37:38 -0500, R.H. Breener wrote:

I don't use
touch-screen. This is a laptop, not a Tablet.

Windows 8.x uses touchscreens on laptops and desktop as well as on
tablets.

Perhaps your laptop lacks a touch screen, but plenty of others have one.

Mine has touchscreen which I see no point in using. I use a mouse and
prefer it to leaning over a desk until my arms and back ache.


He

http://tinyurl.com/l8p9cet (BestBuy.com)

It was about the third entry on the Best Buy page after I navigated to
Windows laptops. The first two might have had touchscreens, but the ads
didn't say so explicitly.

That's not what I wanted and needed. I bought one with 12 GB RAM and a 1 TB
HD. I have too many personal and business associated files so need a large
HD and plenty of RAM. I didn't want touch screen but none of the stores had
this config without it.

You *seem* to understand that you don't need to use the touch screen,
but you don't seem to understand that if you do use it you don't have to
lean over it until your arms and back ache.

Maybe not "lean" over it, but perhaps the positioning of the computer
and his seating position make would make his arms and back ache if he
were to use the touch screen. Perhaps his back and arms ache all of the
time and "reaching" for the screen makes it worse?

"Ron" wrote in message
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Maybe not "lean" over it, but perhaps the positioning of the computer and
his seating position make would make his arms and back ache if he were to
use the touch screen. Perhaps his back and arms ache all of the time and
"reaching" for the screen makes it worse?

The problem with using a touch screen is that your fingers obscure the
screen in the area that you are touching. Also icons have to be made larger
than if you were using a mouse because a finger is larger and therefore is
less precise as a touching device.

If I was going to use a touch screen, I'd get a stylus to give me more
precise control over where I touch. I'd also get a keyboard for text entry -
*much* faster than one-finger typing on an on-screen keyboard.

But the main problem with a touch screen is that you want the screen
vertical to avoid reflections from overhead lights etc but horizontal on a
desk for ease of moving your hand over the touching surface. Ideally desktop
PCs with a touch screen would have a conventional screen for looking at and
a duplicate horizontal touch screen for "mousework".