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Old March 10th 15, 08:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Bob Evans
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Default UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.

HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64

I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI
notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but
it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens.

This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a
Windows 8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not
boot, the computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my
Windows dvd.

I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I
changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy
boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag
and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops
and the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash
drive and got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did
not find a solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks
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Old March 10th 15, 11:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Tigger
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Default UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.

Bob Evans writted thus

HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64

I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI
notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but
it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens.

This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows
8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the
computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd.

I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I
changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy
boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag
and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and
the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and
got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a
solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks


Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I
set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair
and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always
reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by
changing the boot order from F9.

I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash
the Bios to see.

I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here...



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Old March 11th 15, 01:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Bob Evans
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Default UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:10:13 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC), tigger
wrote:

Bob Evans writted thus

HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64

I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI
notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but
it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens.

This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows
8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the
computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd.

I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I
changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy
boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag
and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and
the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and
got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a
solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks


Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I
set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair
and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always
reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by
changing the boot order from F9.

I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash
the Bios to see.

I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here...


I had the same question about my Asus notebook. Here is a past from what
the wrote back. May help or not.

Then please get to the BIOS and then set the “Launch CSM” option to
Enable and the "Fast Boot" option to Disable,then insert the install
disk. Restart your notebook. Press ESC when you see the ASUS logo, and
then choose to boot with DVD to install.


KenW


I disabled Secure Boot, enabled Lagacy Support which puts me in CSM
mode (there is no listing for CSM) Fast Boot is not listed in the bios
on this notebook. This is a low end notebook from HP.
In Lagacy mode the Windows 8.1 DVD starts to load, I get the flag, and
the circling balls but it just dies after the balls stop. I can't boot
a repair cd so I have no way to fix this that I can see. There is a
recovery option (f11) which is going to be a lot of work to get the
notebook up to date but this appears to be my only option at this
point.

I booted with a Linux Mint USB in order to move the data off the drive
but Mint gets an error when I try to access the laptop HD. I will have
to remove the hd (not easy) and remove the data with the hd hooked up
to my pc.

I'm hoping that somene here has a solution that is easier.
  #4  
Old March 11th 15, 03:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Bob Evans
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Default UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:07:16 -0700, Bob Evans
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:10:13 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC), tigger
wrote:

Bob Evans writted thus

HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64

I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI
notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but
it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens.

This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows
8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the
computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd.

I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I
changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy
boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag
and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and
the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and
got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a
solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks

Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I
set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair
and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always
reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by
changing the boot order from F9.

I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash
the Bios to see.

I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here...


I had the same question about my Asus notebook. Here is a past from what
the wrote back. May help or not.

Then please get to the BIOS and then set the “Launch CSM” option to
Enable and the "Fast Boot" option to Disable,then insert the install
disk. Restart your notebook. Press ESC when you see the ASUS logo, and
then choose to boot with DVD to install.


KenW


I disabled Secure Boot, enabled Lagacy Support which puts me in CSM
mode (there is no listing for CSM) Fast Boot is not listed in the bios
on this notebook. This is a low end notebook from HP.
In Lagacy mode the Windows 8.1 DVD starts to load, I get the flag, and
the circling balls but it just dies after the balls stop. I can't boot
a repair cd so I have no way to fix this that I can see. There is a
recovery option (f11) which is going to be a lot of work to get the
notebook up to date but this appears to be my only option at this
point.

I booted with a Linux Mint USB in order to move the data off the drive
but Mint gets an error when I try to access the laptop HD. I will have
to remove the hd (not easy) and remove the data with the hd hooked up
to my pc.

I'm hoping that somene here has a solution that is easier.


I found some info that said press the f2 key on startup to access
system tests. I did this and the notebook failed the Hard Drive Short
DST test. The hard drive needs to be replaced so I guess that's next.
I hope that after I replace the HD that I will be able to boot a
Windows install disk.

Would a dead hard drive cause the Windows DVD to fail booting?
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Old March 11th 15, 05:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.

Bob Evans wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:07:16 -0700, Bob Evans
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:10:13 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC), tigger
wrote:

Bob Evans writted thus

HP Pavilion 15 Notebook. Windows 8.1 x64

I am trying to repair the boot on my daughter's Windows 8.1 UEFI
notebook. It goes to a message saying 'Preparing Automatic Repair' but
it never completes and the screen dims, nothing happens.

This is my first experience with a UEFI bios. I tried to boot a Windows
8.1 dvd so I could use the Repair option but it would not boot, the
computer went to the HP boot screen and did not see my Windows dvd.

I went to the bios and disabled Secure Boot but it did not help, so I
changed to Legacy mode, rebooted and selected the dvd from the Legacy
boot list. The notebook booted from the dvd and I saw the Windows flag
and the circling balls but when the balls stop circling the cd stops and
the screen goes gray. I have also tried this using a USB flash drive and
got the same results. I have Googled this problem but did not find a
solution that worked. Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks
Not that it helps, but I have a Pavilion 15 N297sa with a broken UEFI. I
set it to dual boot with Ubuntu. I can boot Windows to the Auto Repair
and it hangs, I can force the grub bootloader from F9 but it always
reverts to a Win8 boot that hangs. I cannot get a CD to boot, even by
changing the boot order from F9.

I think HP ballsed up the UEFI somewhere, so next week I'm going to flash
the Bios to see.

I will be interested to read the answers to your OP on here...
I had the same question about my Asus notebook. Here is a past from what
the wrote back. May help or not.

Then please get to the BIOS and then set the “Launch CSM” option to
Enable and the "Fast Boot" option to Disable,then insert the install
disk. Restart your notebook. Press ESC when you see the ASUS logo, and
then choose to boot with DVD to install.


KenW

I disabled Secure Boot, enabled Lagacy Support which puts me in CSM
mode (there is no listing for CSM) Fast Boot is not listed in the bios
on this notebook. This is a low end notebook from HP.
In Lagacy mode the Windows 8.1 DVD starts to load, I get the flag, and
the circling balls but it just dies after the balls stop. I can't boot
a repair cd so I have no way to fix this that I can see. There is a
recovery option (f11) which is going to be a lot of work to get the
notebook up to date but this appears to be my only option at this
point.

I booted with a Linux Mint USB in order to move the data off the drive
but Mint gets an error when I try to access the laptop HD. I will have
to remove the hd (not easy) and remove the data with the hd hooked up
to my pc.

I'm hoping that somene here has a solution that is easier.


I found some info that said press the f2 key on startup to access
system tests. I did this and the notebook failed the Hard Drive Short
DST test. The hard drive needs to be replaced so I guess that's next.
I hope that after I replace the HD that I will be able to boot a
Windows install disk.

Would a dead hard drive cause the Windows DVD to fail booting?


Unplug the drive and see ?

I don't have a great deal of confidence in predicting
what UEFI will do. My UEFI machine will always surprise me.
I have to hammer F8 like mad on mine, to ensure I get a
chance to specify the boot drive (via the popup menu).
Otherwise, it may find the last hard drive it was using
and boot that one. When it is in a "mind of its own"
mood, it can commence booting the OS disk pretty quickly.

And before binning a drive, I'd test it on another
hardware platform. I connect my laptop drive
to this machine I'm typing on, and do my testing
and maintenance here. That's so I can get a "second
opinion". I use the free version of HDTune, and examine
the SMART tab. And look for things like Reallocated
Sectors.

http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe

If the drive won't respond at all, on your test machine,
well, that pretty well draws a conclusion.

I don't really like how hard drives are designed. As
far as I'm concerned, the controller board should *always*
respond. It should have error codes like "cannot spin
the spindle", or "actuator arm fails to slide down ramp".
The policy of simply refusing to respond in any way,
unless the drive accesses track -1, loads the ATA firmware,
is in my opinion, pretty lame. It's a waste of diagnostic
info from the controller board. I would prefer to know
more about what the drive thinks is going on.

Paul
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Old March 13th 15, 02:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Joe Morris
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Default UEFI notebook boot problem. Help please.

"Bob Evans" :

Would a dead hard drive cause the Windows DVD to fail booting?


It's not impossible, although rare IME.

Many years ago I had a system - vague memory (not parity checked) says it
was a Micron tower - that would wedge itself during POST if it found a disk
with a particular flavor of corrupt boot sector, regardless of whether that
disk was or was not going to be booted. It wouldn't even get into the BIOS
setup; the disk had to be physically disconnected to get a boot to work. (I
had to repair the disk on a different system.)

A comment: UEFI is a significant (and much needed) improvement for security
of computer systems; if implemented and used correctly it significantly
reduces the attack surface for potential rootkit attacks - and those attacks
are happening; they are not just a theoretical worry. The (or more
correctly, "a") problem is that it *is* new, and manufacturers (and their
help desk staff) are still on a learning curve.

Joe


 




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