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  #61  
Old February 9th 15, 04:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dave Doe
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In article , , chicagofan
says...

Paul wrote:

The reason the question is intriguing, is why the gadget
still works for some people and not for others. What is
different between the machines ? What "update" is missing ?

Paul


I'm wondering about that too. I don't want this to happen to me. So
far, my original Weather Gadget in my Win7 x64 is still working,
although a Windows Update did put it out of commission sometime last
year. I didn't have this connection problem though ... it just
disappeared; I could not find it to access. I'm sorry to say I don't
remember what advice I found [probably here or at BBR] to get it back.
I seem to remember being told to delete Sidebar.exe in Task Manager and
reboot. I don't know if I did anything else, before or after.

It would be interesting to know the general location of people who can't
connect to their weather feedback. I'm in the Atlanta, GA area, which
is working presently.
bj


I'm in Christchurch, New Zealand - stopped working a couple of days ago.

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  #62  
Old February 9th 15, 09:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 15:06:01 -0500, chicagofan
wrote:

It would be interesting to know the general location of people who can't
connect to their weather feedback. I'm in the Atlanta, GA area, which
is working presently.
bj


Virginia Beach, VA here. Gadget stopped working around January 30
("Cannot connect to service") and hasn't come back since. Gave up
messing with it and now use Weather Meter.

It's OK but the display can get cluttered if you configure it to show
too much data. I may look into other weather gadgets to see if I can
find one I like better than Weather Meter.
  #63  
Old February 9th 15, 11:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Tom Thompson
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I have an ASUS Laptop, a Dell laptop and a home-grown high-end
desktop.... All with Win7PremiumSP1 on my home network. The weather
gadget still works on the Dell but not the other 2.

T2

  #64  
Old February 9th 15, 11:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:47:23 -0500, RW wrote:

On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 15:06:01 -0500, chicagofan
wrote:

It would be interesting to know the general location of people who can't
connect to their weather feedback. I'm in the Atlanta, GA area, which
is working presently.
bj


Virginia Beach, VA here. Gadget stopped working around January 30
("Cannot connect to service") and hasn't come back since. Gave up
messing with it and now use Weather Meter.

It's OK but the display can get cluttered if you configure it to show
too much data. I may look into other weather gadgets to see if I can
find one I like better than Weather Meter.


It'd be interesting to see what happens if one or more of you for whom the
weather gadget has quit working would try the solution he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/weather-gadget-not-working-cannot-connect-to/6707d8b4-1a37-4412-a609-5677c9b99a7a?page=1

Ignore the first response from the guy who says MS disabled all gadgets. He
obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, but at least 25 people
indicate that they got their gadgets working again by following the steps in
the second reply, the one from "sting251" who starts off with, "I do not
typically post on any type of forums".

Since my gadgets are still working fine, I'll assume it's good enough to
simply make a copy of the files he mentions and store them for the day when
the gadgets quit working.

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  #65  
Old February 9th 15, 11:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:12:26 -0600, lid
(Andrew732) wrote:

Like others have pointed out, the gadget runs but "cannot connect
to the service."


"Cannot connect to the service" is likely a wholly different issue than
"cannot connect to server". That would also explain why gadgets still work
for some of us and not for others. The server(s) are obviously still
operational, but on specific PCs, the *service* is apparently not running.
I'm not sure which service I'm referring to.

Does anyone know enough about how gadgets work
to just make it connect to a different server instead of this iWeather
thing that no longer seems to work?


The other guy came back and said that iWeather was a typo and that there's
no such thing. He may have meant to say iMap. The name of the Gadget is
Weather, the version is 1.1.0.0, and most of the config is in:

C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Sidebar\Cache
C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live\Services\Cache

Here's an xml file for Central Park, NYC, NY.

//begin
CacheFileVersion1.0/VersionSavedTime130678012884576000/SavedTimeExpiryTime130682332884576000/ExpiryTimeData<?xml
version="1.0"?>
<weatherdata xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"><weather
weatherlocationcode="wc:USNY0998" weatherlocationname="Central Park, NY"
zipcode="10024"
url="http://local.msn.com/weather.aspx?eid=6371&q=Central+Park-NY&zip=10024&ctsrc=Windows7"
imagerelativeurl="http://wst.s-msn.com/i/en-us/" degreetype="F"
provider="iMap" attribution="Data provided by iMap" attribution2="© iMap"
lat="40.78237915" long="-73.96585846" timezone="-5" alert="" entityid="6371"
encodedlocationname="Central+Park%2c+NY"><cu rrent temperature="28"
skycode="16" skytext="Snow" date="2015-02-07" observationtime="11:27:00"
observationpoint="New York City, Central Park" feelslike="27" humidity="75"
winddisplay="8 mph WSW" day="Saturday" shortday="Sat"
windspeed="8"/><forecast low="35" high="36" skycodeday="26"
skytextday="Cloudy" date="2015-02-07" day="Saturday" shortday="Sat"
precip="0"/><forecast low="33" high="42" skycodeday="26"
skytextday="Cloudy" date="2015-02-08" day="Sunday" shortday="Sun"
precip="0"/><forecast low="33" high="33" skycodeday="16"
skytextday="Snow" date="2015-02-09" day="Monday" shortday="Mon"
precip="80"/><forecast low="27" high="40" skycodeday="32"
skytextday="Sunny (Clear)" date="2015-02-10" day="Tuesday" shortday="Tue"
precip="0"/><forecast low="29" high="36" skycodeday="32"
skytextday="Sunny (Clear)" date="2015-02-11" day="Wednesday" shortday="Wed"
precip="0"/><toolbar timewindow="60"
minversion="1.0.1965.0"/></weather></weatherdata>
/Data/CacheFile
//end




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  #66  
Old February 10th 15, 12:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 09 Feb 2015, Tom Thompson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I have an ASUS Laptop, a Dell laptop and a home-grown high-end
desktop.... All with Win7PremiumSP1 on my home network. The weather
gadget still works on the Dell but not the other 2.


I think mine just quit working this morning. I'll check it again later
to see if it's still dead.
  #68  
Old February 10th 15, 03:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:18:05 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:12:26 -0600, lid
(Andrew732) wrote:

Like others have pointed out, the gadget runs but "cannot connect
to the service."


"Cannot connect to the service" is likely a wholly different issue than
"cannot connect to server". That would also explain why gadgets still work
for some of us and not for others. The server(s) are obviously still
operational, but on specific PCs, the *service* is apparently not running.
I'm not sure which service I'm referring to.


That would be the Windows Location Service. Look for wlsrvc.dll "near"
the gadget folder.

The only reason I started looking for that, was when I looked in the
javascript for the gadget, I could see references to that
service. And then I did a file search, to see if anything of
a similar name was available.

There was no sign of it (no entry) in Services. You're supposed
to be able to add it, by adding a "sensor" to Windows 7. For the
privacy minded, maybe that normally isn't enabled. But mine is
grayed out - I'm not allowed to add any sensor using the specified
method. So I can't even add it back.


I'm not seeing any information regarding adding sensors. All I've been able
to find so far deals only with _enabling_ or _disabling_ one or more sensors
that are already installed.

My Win 7 box has no sensors, so none are enabled, and the weather gadget
works fine. The whole 'location services' thing appears to be entirely
optional. Like you, I see references in the code, but I don't think any of
that is required. I mean, obviously it's not required.

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  #69  
Old February 10th 15, 04:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Paff
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:17:54 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

It'd be interesting to see what happens if one or more of you for whom the
weather gadget has quit working would try the solution he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/weather-gadget-not-working-cannot-connect-to/6707d8b4-1a37-4412-a609-5677c9b99a7a?page=1

Ignore the first response from the guy who says MS disabled all gadgets. He
obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, but at least 25 people
indicate that they got their gadgets working again by following the steps in
the second reply, the one from "sting251" who starts off with, "I do not
typically post on any type of forums".

Since my gadgets are still working fine, I'll assume it's good enough to
simply make a copy of the files he mentions and store them for the day when
the gadgets quit working.


Yes, I just used that method to repair one computer's 'broken' gadget
using a copy of a working gadget from another computer.

The Config.xml files were identical between the two computers.
The Settings.ini were different, but I think the differences were due
to the order of gadgets on the screen.

The non-working computer didn't have a directory under the Windows
Sidebar\Cache directory. I don't know if my prior attempts to fix the
issue had caused it to be deleted or if that was the cause of the
problem.
  #70  
Old February 10th 15, 07:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 07:48:38 -0800, Mike Paff wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:17:54 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

It'd be interesting to see what happens if one or more of you for whom the
weather gadget has quit working would try the solution he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/weather-gadget-not-working-cannot-connect-to/6707d8b4-1a37-4412-a609-5677c9b99a7a?page=1

Ignore the first response from the guy who says MS disabled all gadgets. He
obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, but at least 25 people
indicate that they got their gadgets working again by following the steps in
the second reply, the one from "sting251" who starts off with, "I do not
typically post on any type of forums".

Since my gadgets are still working fine, I'll assume it's good enough to
simply make a copy of the files he mentions and store them for the day when
the gadgets quit working.


Yes, I just used that method to repair one computer's 'broken' gadget
using a copy of a working gadget from another computer.

The Config.xml files were identical between the two computers.
The Settings.ini were different, but I think the differences were due
to the order of gadgets on the screen.

The non-working computer didn't have a directory under the Windows
Sidebar\Cache directory. I don't know if my prior attempts to fix the
issue had caused it to be deleted or if that was the cause of the
problem.


Interesting. I think this is the first that I've heard of the entire folder
being missing, so maybe it was a fluke. Thanks for posting.

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  #71  
Old February 10th 15, 09:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
RW[_4_]
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:17:54 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

It'd be interesting to see what happens if one or more of you for whom the
weather gadget has quit working would try the solution he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/weather-gadget-not-working-cannot-connect-to/6707d8b4-1a37-4412-a609-5677c9b99a7a?page=1



Interesting possible solution but without access to a Win7 machine
where the gadget(s) still work it's of no use to me.

BTW I had run across this "fix" in my earlier searches for a solution
but as stated above cannot make use of it.

Thanks.
RW
  #72  
Old February 10th 15, 10:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:57:07 -0500, RW wrote:

On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:17:54 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

It'd be interesting to see what happens if one or more of you for whom the
weather gadget has quit working would try the solution he
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/weather-gadget-not-working-cannot-connect-to/6707d8b4-1a37-4412-a609-5677c9b99a7a?page=1



Interesting possible solution but without access to a Win7 machine
where the gadget(s) still work it's of no use to me.

BTW I had run across this "fix" in my earlier searches for a solution
but as stated above cannot make use of it.


Two of us have posted our config.xml files in the "mateo gadget not connect"
thread, so maybe that can be a place to start.

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