Registry cleaner ?

On the contrary, YOU"RE the one exposed many times for pushing registry
cleaners.
To quote you, 'you're wrong now, always have been and always will be.'
Not one MVP on this newsgroup will refute that.

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ahh, the original intentionally ignorant misinformationist! Just looking
for a chance to make your moronic spiel, eh? You've been exposed so many
times I don't think it's even necessary to go through it all again. You're
wrong now, always have been, and always will be. Your advice here is
complete "snake-oil" by definition.

HTH,

Twayne






In ,
Bruce Chambers typed:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


Why would you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?
What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some
program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be
fixed by using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less
likely to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product
to make multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to
safely clean your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of
the device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in
the registry can have severe consequences. One should not even
turning loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is
fully confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a
result of each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the
hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and
experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack
the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any
automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the
use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's
no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to
make any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there
are any registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general
public to use. Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools
simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

Yeah! He is the same as Twayne.
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...
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"Unknown" wrote in message
...

Yeah! He is the same as Twayne.
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...
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Ignore this Steve. He is an ignoramus.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
...

You never offered answers to someone who damaged their system by a registry
cleaner because you
don't know the answer? Then why do you push them? And you say "I'm clear
about what I'm doing"
Are you mentally handicapped?
"Twayne" wrote in message
...



In ,
Unknown typed:
I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone
who posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner.

Well, you'd better go look again. Or put your glasses on. I don't offer
answers to someone if I don't know the answer. But I DO address your
misinformation. K? And, I'm clear about what I'm doing.
You've missed a lot of posts in 5 years.

... You conveniently ignore them.

But you don't, if you have a chance to spew your misinformation, huh?

Then, you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do
you work for the 'snakeoil' developers?

I criticize liars, misinformationists and those who lump the entier world
together with one color. I would join your vendetta if even one of you
have any verifiable, legitimate information from an unbiased source to
disprove the functionality of every registry cleaner ever made. It's an
extremely stupid premise to start with and intentionally ignorant besides.

And if you think those are severe criticisms, may I suggest you need a
thicker snake skin?


HTH,

Twayne




"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They
don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without
anything to back themselves up and which I know from education,
research and experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will"
cause irrepairale damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor
damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in my opinion" in your
posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture and you know
it. Your'e also wrong and you know it. As for your last sentence,
projection won't do you much good; you have to become an actual thinking
person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

You never offered answers to someone who damaged their system by a registry
cleaner because you
don't know the answer? Then why do you push them? And you say "I'm clear
about what I'm doing"
Are you mentally handicapped?
"Twayne" wrote in message
...



In ,
Unknown typed:
I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone
who posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner.

Well, you'd better go look again. Or put your glasses on. I don't offer
answers to someone if I don't know the answer. But I DO address your
misinformation. K? And, I'm clear about what I'm doing.
You've missed a lot of posts in 5 years.

... You conveniently ignore them.

But you don't, if you have a chance to spew your misinformation, huh?

Then, you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do
you work for the 'snakeoil' developers?

I criticize liars, misinformationists and those who lump the entier world
together with one color. I would join your vendetta if even one of you
have any verifiable, legitimate information from an unbiased source to
disprove the functionality of every registry cleaner ever made. It's an
extremely stupid premise to start with and intentionally ignorant besides.

And if you think those are severe criticisms, may I suggest you need a
thicker snake skin?


HTH,

Twayne




"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They
don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without
anything to back themselves up and which I know from education,
research and experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will"
cause irrepairale damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor
damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in my opinion" in your
posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture and you know
it. Your'e also wrong and you know it. As for your last sentence,
projection won't do you much good; you have to become an actual thinking
person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
Not ONCE have you responded to someone who damaged their system using
a registry cleaner.

You're wrong, but the vast majority of the time any useful answers have
already been given. Adding anything to the muck and lies you create would do
nothing but add to the confusion.

I'm calling you a bald face liar because I have several such examples in my
archives. Let's see YOU prove there has never been such a thing? Saying
something doesn't make it so. In your case, it's just a fantasy and/or wish,
anyway.

Twayne, misinformation exposer/responder


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other
program, just source a reliable program from a reliable web
site. They don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you
make anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs
are exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong.

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems brought
about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any help, you simply
disappear. It's so blatant, you are there defending your cleaners 5
minutes earlier but as soon as someone has problems you go blind and
see nothing. Who are you really trying to kid?

John

Aha, that's an exact description of YOUR MO! You'll find I either:
Offer an answer to at minimum tell the poster that you are all wet
and not to be taken seriously.


HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
Not ONCE have you responded to someone who damaged their system using
a registry cleaner.

You're wrong, but the vast majority of the time any useful answers have
already been given. Adding anything to the muck and lies you create would do
nothing but add to the confusion.

I'm calling you a bald face liar because I have several such examples in my
archives. Let's see YOU prove there has never been such a thing? Saying
something doesn't make it so. In your case, it's just a fantasy and/or wish,
anyway.

Twayne, misinformation exposer/responder


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other
program, just source a reliable program from a reliable web
site. They don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you
make anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs
are exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong.

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems brought
about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any help, you simply
disappear. It's so blatant, you are there defending your cleaners 5
minutes earlier but as soon as someone has problems you go blind and
see nothing. Who are you really trying to kid?

John

Aha, that's an exact description of YOUR MO! You'll find I either:
Offer an answer to at minimum tell the poster that you are all wet
and not to be taken seriously.


HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
On the contrary, YOU"RE the one exposed many times for pushing
registry cleaners.
To quote you, 'you're wrong now, always have been and always will be.'
Not one MVP on this newsgroup will refute that.

No, only a small group if intentionally ignorant ones and some who aren't
actually MVPs but are parrots will "refute" it. You really should increase
the size of your world and try to get a grasp on reality. You try hard to be
a wart on the ass of progress for a lot of things.


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ahh, the original intentionally ignorant misinformationist! Just
looking for a chance to make your moronic spiel, eh? You've been
exposed so many times I don't think it's even necessary to go
through it all again. You're wrong now, always have been, and always
will be. Your advice here is complete "snake-oil" by definition.

HTH,

Twayne






In ,
Bruce Chambers typed:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


Why would you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?
What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some
program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be
fixed by using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it
would be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course)
only the specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the
problem. After all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the
job? Additionally, the manually changing of one or two registry
entries is far less likely to have the dire consequences of
allowing an automated product to make multiple changes
simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your
registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe. The registry contains all of the
operating system's "knowledge"
of the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the
location of the device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A
misstep in the registry can have severe consequences. One should
not even turning loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner,"
unless he is fully confident that he knows *exactly* what is going
to happen as a result of each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them
all. Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in
the hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and
experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack
the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any
automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of
an automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate
that the use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves
a computer's performance or stability. Given the potential for
harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do
any good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup -
there's no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a
warming placebo effect), I always tell people that the risks far
out-weigh the non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the
hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist
can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not
allowed to make any changes automatically. But I really don't
think that there are any registry "cleaners" that are truly safe
for the general public to use. Experience has proven just the
opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the
inexperienced user. A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums . View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a
Registry Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

In ,
Unknown typed:
On the contrary, YOU"RE the one exposed many times for pushing
registry cleaners.
To quote you, 'you're wrong now, always have been and always will be.'
Not one MVP on this newsgroup will refute that.

No, only a small group if intentionally ignorant ones and some who aren't
actually MVPs but are parrots will "refute" it. You really should increase
the size of your world and try to get a grasp on reality. You try hard to be
a wart on the ass of progress for a lot of things.


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Ahh, the original intentionally ignorant misinformationist! Just
looking for a chance to make your moronic spiel, eh? You've been
exposed so many times I don't think it's even necessary to go
through it all again. You're wrong now, always have been, and always
will be. Your advice here is complete "snake-oil" by definition.

HTH,

Twayne






In ,
Bruce Chambers typed:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


Why would you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?
What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some
program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be
fixed by using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it
would be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course)
only the specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the
problem. After all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the
job? Additionally, the manually changing of one or two registry
entries is far less likely to have the dire consequences of
allowing an automated product to make multiple changes
simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean your
registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe. The registry contains all of the
operating system's "knowledge"
of the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the
location of the device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A
misstep in the registry can have severe consequences. One should
not even turning loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner,"
unless he is fully confident that he knows *exactly* what is going
to happen as a result of each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them
all. Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in
the hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and
experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack
the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any
automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of
an automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate
that the use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves
a computer's performance or stability. Given the potential for
harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do
any good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup -
there's no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a
warming placebo effect), I always tell people that the risks far
out-weigh the non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the
hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist
can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not
allowed to make any changes automatically. But I really don't
think that there are any registry "cleaners" that are truly safe
for the general public to use. Experience has proven just the
opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the
inexperienced user. A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums . View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a
Registry Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

In ,
Unknown typed:
You never offered answers

Prove I never offered answers.

to someone who damaged their system by a
registry cleaner

Prove or provide technical, supported proof of each case or an unbiased
investigation and I might believe you. Even Paul Russinovich retracted his
comment that he'd never use a registry cleaner; or didn't you know that?
Kind of splitting hairs, but one has to when dealing with a bush like yours.

because you
don't know the answer?

Unlike you, I have no problem with admitting that I have little or no
knowledge of some parts of some area. Since you can't read and snipped out
the text, you're not making much of a point. You're like the yellow
journalist who makes a living at the Enquirer or worse rags.

Then why do you push them?

Prove I "push" them. Show me posts I wrote where I pushed them. I only speak
the truth about them and offer at times the extensive knowledge and
experience I have with them. You on the other hand have no such thing.

And you say "I'm
clear about what I'm doing"

That's right! YOu're not clear about what you're doing. I see you snipped
out those parts too, like a common coward under a bridge somewhere.

Are you mentally handicapped?

Yes, I am. I have short-term memory retrieval problems left over from a
concussion I suffered many years ago but long after the idiotic debate about
registry cleaners being snake oil and never to be used. I won't remember
this post after I send it until, probably, tomorrow, without reminders, and
then it'll come back to me. Don't you wish that was the ONLY problem YOU
had? It must really suck to be you.

Thanks again for the opportunity to trash you; it's been fun. As long as
it's fun I'll continue to refute the misinformatists, liars and idiot who
are incapable of giving out accurate advice. And, I'll do so without
splitting hairs as you are inclined to do; I'll stick to the subjects and
not try to redirect the OP when it's you or some other idiot that is giving
out the bad information.

Twayne, defender of accuracy in communications



"Twayne" wrote in message
...



In ,
Unknown typed:
I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone
who posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner.

Well, you'd better go look again. Or put your glasses on. I don't
offer answers to someone if I don't know the answer. But I DO
address your misinformation. K? And, I'm clear about what I'm doing.
You've missed a lot of posts in 5 years.

... You conveniently ignore them.

But you don't, if you have a chance to spew your misinformation, huh?

Then, you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do
you work for the 'snakeoil' developers?

I criticize liars, misinformationists and those who lump the entier
world together with one color. I would join your vendetta if even
one of you have any verifiable, legitimate information from an
unbiased source to disprove the functionality of every registry
cleaner ever made. It's an extremely stupid premise to start with
and intentionally ignorant besides. And if you think those are severe
criticisms, may I suggest you need
a thicker snake skin?


HTH,

Twayne




"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other
program, just source a reliable program from a reliable web
site. They don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you
make anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs
are exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without
anything to back themselves up and which I know from education,
research and experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will"
cause irrepairale damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor
damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in my opinion" in your
posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture and you know
it. Your'e also wrong and you know it. As for your last sentence,
projection won't do you much good; you have to become an actual
thinking person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
You never offered answers

Prove I never offered answers.

to someone who damaged their system by a
registry cleaner

Prove or provide technical, supported proof of each case or an unbiased
investigation and I might believe you. Even Paul Russinovich retracted his
comment that he'd never use a registry cleaner; or didn't you know that?
Kind of splitting hairs, but one has to when dealing with a bush like yours.

because you
don't know the answer?

Unlike you, I have no problem with admitting that I have little or no
knowledge of some parts of some area. Since you can't read and snipped out
the text, you're not making much of a point. You're like the yellow
journalist who makes a living at the Enquirer or worse rags.

Then why do you push them?

Prove I "push" them. Show me posts I wrote where I pushed them. I only speak
the truth about them and offer at times the extensive knowledge and
experience I have with them. You on the other hand have no such thing.

And you say "I'm
clear about what I'm doing"

That's right! YOu're not clear about what you're doing. I see you snipped
out those parts too, like a common coward under a bridge somewhere.

Are you mentally handicapped?

Yes, I am. I have short-term memory retrieval problems left over from a
concussion I suffered many years ago but long after the idiotic debate about
registry cleaners being snake oil and never to be used. I won't remember
this post after I send it until, probably, tomorrow, without reminders, and
then it'll come back to me. Don't you wish that was the ONLY problem YOU
had? It must really suck to be you.

Thanks again for the opportunity to trash you; it's been fun. As long as
it's fun I'll continue to refute the misinformatists, liars and idiot who
are incapable of giving out accurate advice. And, I'll do so without
splitting hairs as you are inclined to do; I'll stick to the subjects and
not try to redirect the OP when it's you or some other idiot that is giving
out the bad information.

Twayne, defender of accuracy in communications



"Twayne" wrote in message
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In ,
Unknown typed:
I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone
who posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner.

Well, you'd better go look again. Or put your glasses on. I don't
offer answers to someone if I don't know the answer. But I DO
address your misinformation. K? And, I'm clear about what I'm doing.
You've missed a lot of posts in 5 years.

... You conveniently ignore them.

But you don't, if you have a chance to spew your misinformation, huh?

Then, you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do
you work for the 'snakeoil' developers?

I criticize liars, misinformationists and those who lump the entier
world together with one color. I would join your vendetta if even
one of you have any verifiable, legitimate information from an
unbiased source to disprove the functionality of every registry
cleaner ever made. It's an extremely stupid premise to start with
and intentionally ignorant besides. And if you think those are severe
criticisms, may I suggest you need
a thicker snake skin?


HTH,

Twayne




"Twayne" wrote in message
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In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other
program, just source a reliable program from a reliable web
site. They don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you
make anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs
are exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without
anything to back themselves up and which I know from education,
research and experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will"
cause irrepairale damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor
damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in my opinion" in your
posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture and you know
it. Your'e also wrong and you know it. As for your last sentence,
projection won't do you much good; you have to become an actual
thinking person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
John John - MVP typed:
thanatoid wrote:
John John - MVP wrote in
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SNIP

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems
brought about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any
help, you simply disappear.

OK, I'm not Twayne, so let /me/ see an example of "damage" done
by a reg cleaner. I'm new to the XP groups and I have not seen
one yet.

I have provided links to the kind of problems that these cleaners can
cause in another post.

At one time I too thought that these cleaners served a purpose. Why?
Because I didn't know any better, everybody was spreading the same
gospel and I believed the vendors of these programs. That was when I
was using Windows 95 on my home machine. I knew next to nothing about
Windows and like everybody else I ran these cleaners just because
that's what folks were doing, I never noticed any improvement when
running them but I ran the cleaners anyway.

After we migrated our work network from Novell over DOS to an NT4
network I thought that I should also run registry cleaners on my NT4
boxes. It didn't take too long for me to realize that the cleaners
did absolutely nothing to improve performance on any of our machines
and that it broke some of our applications. One of my boxes was up to
MFC42.dll but a Xerox printer that we had attached to the box couldn't
work with that MFC version, it required MFC40.dll so this dll was kept
and registered on the NT4 box. Every time a cleaner was run it would
remove the registration for this file and the whole Xerox software
would fall apart and the printer would stop working. That was the
last straw, these cleaners did absolutely nothing to maintain the
health of my machines and they did nothing to improve performance, quite
to the
contrary they were breaking our software. By that time I was a bit
more savvy about Windows NT and I came to realize that these cleaners
were really utterly useless and that they were causing more harm than
good so I dumped the whole lot of them. And, oh yes, I tried more than a
few
or them, RegClean, CleanSweep, RegCleaner/JV16 and a few others. There all
the same, they're all utterly useless and a complete waste
of time, Windows NT operating systems don't need registry cleaning,
running
these cleaners as a maintenance/prevention routine is nothing but a
fool's errand.
John

Lots of talk and opinion, but nothing of any import. YOU did this, YOU did
that, YOU did the other thing. And still no definitive links to any useful
information on the subject. You apparently also seem to think that XP = NT
which if far from the case; you need to brush up on what's relevant and what
isn't between the two, at least if you keep trying to redirect to literal NT
as you're doing.
How were they all the same? Details? How did you prove your cases?

Twayne

In ,
John John - MVP typed:
thanatoid wrote:
John John - MVP wrote in
:

SNIP

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems
brought about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any
help, you simply disappear.

OK, I'm not Twayne, so let /me/ see an example of "damage" done
by a reg cleaner. I'm new to the XP groups and I have not seen
one yet.

I have provided links to the kind of problems that these cleaners can
cause in another post.

At one time I too thought that these cleaners served a purpose. Why?
Because I didn't know any better, everybody was spreading the same
gospel and I believed the vendors of these programs. That was when I
was using Windows 95 on my home machine. I knew next to nothing about
Windows and like everybody else I ran these cleaners just because
that's what folks were doing, I never noticed any improvement when
running them but I ran the cleaners anyway.

After we migrated our work network from Novell over DOS to an NT4
network I thought that I should also run registry cleaners on my NT4
boxes. It didn't take too long for me to realize that the cleaners
did absolutely nothing to improve performance on any of our machines
and that it broke some of our applications. One of my boxes was up to
MFC42.dll but a Xerox printer that we had attached to the box couldn't
work with that MFC version, it required MFC40.dll so this dll was kept
and registered on the NT4 box. Every time a cleaner was run it would
remove the registration for this file and the whole Xerox software
would fall apart and the printer would stop working. That was the
last straw, these cleaners did absolutely nothing to maintain the
health of my machines and they did nothing to improve performance, quite
to the
contrary they were breaking our software. By that time I was a bit
more savvy about Windows NT and I came to realize that these cleaners
were really utterly useless and that they were causing more harm than
good so I dumped the whole lot of them. And, oh yes, I tried more than a
few
or them, RegClean, CleanSweep, RegCleaner/JV16 and a few others. There all
the same, they're all utterly useless and a complete waste
of time, Windows NT operating systems don't need registry cleaning,
running
these cleaners as a maintenance/prevention routine is nothing but a
fool's errand.
John

Lots of talk and opinion, but nothing of any import. YOU did this, YOU did
that, YOU did the other thing. And still no definitive links to any useful
information on the subject. You apparently also seem to think that XP = NT
which if far from the case; you need to brush up on what's relevant and what
isn't between the two, at least if you keep trying to redirect to literal NT
as you're doing.
How were they all the same? Details? How did you prove your cases?

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
SOUND technical reasons?????? Just give one. And prove it to be so.

YOU are the one claiming to have the expert knowlege; it's YOU that should
be providing the technical background to change the minds of what you
consider those who use "dangerous" software.
Personally, I've said over and over that I'm willing to read and listen
to any verifiable, technically oriented explanations of what's wrong with
registry cleaners. Since you claim to know so much more than I or anyone
else who disagrees with YOU, it's incumbent upon YOU to provide something
useful and convincing, or shut up. But can't, because no such thing exists.
Even MS, when they admit a compatability issue, never admits it's their
fault; instead preferring to say it's between x and y, someone other than MS
and MS.

Twayne, defender of misinformation and inaccuracy

"Twayne" wrote in message
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In ,
Bruce Chambers typed:
Steve Hayes wrote:


So how should you clean the registry, then?




And the correct answer to that question is: "You shouldn't." There's no
sound technical reason for doing so, but abundant
technical reasons for *not* doing so.

He asked HOW, dummy! Also:

You typo'd: There ARE sound technical reasons for doing so, and
abundant technical reasons that the problem most likely lies
elsewhere also. But as usual, your are completely wrong and missed
the chance for a good response.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
SOUND technical reasons?????? Just give one. And prove it to be so.

YOU are the one claiming to have the expert knowlege; it's YOU that should
be providing the technical background to change the minds of what you
consider those who use "dangerous" software.
Personally, I've said over and over that I'm willing to read and listen
to any verifiable, technically oriented explanations of what's wrong with
registry cleaners. Since you claim to know so much more than I or anyone
else who disagrees with YOU, it's incumbent upon YOU to provide something
useful and convincing, or shut up. But can't, because no such thing exists.
Even MS, when they admit a compatability issue, never admits it's their
fault; instead preferring to say it's between x and y, someone other than MS
and MS.

Twayne, defender of misinformation and inaccuracy

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Bruce Chambers typed:
Steve Hayes wrote:


So how should you clean the registry, then?




And the correct answer to that question is: "You shouldn't." There's no
sound technical reason for doing so, but abundant
technical reasons for *not* doing so.

He asked HOW, dummy! Also:

You typo'd: There ARE sound technical reasons for doing so, and
abundant technical reasons that the problem most likely lies
elsewhere also. But as usual, your are completely wrong and missed
the chance for a good response.

HTH,

Twayne