Using home wifi

On 19/02/2012 4:02 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
I will keep that in mind if I decide to get another meter. The two I
have were both free. I got one from Emory and one just like it for
buying Liberty Medical test strips.

Liberty seemed a little pushy when I first signed up. I basically had
to tell them to not call me, I would call them.

Having a meter with USB would be a feature I would suggest to anyone
considering getting a meter.

The Bayer was also free from my doctor (he gets it free from Bayer as a
promotional), and I could've also gotten it free from my pharmacy if I
bought 100 test strips from them. The glucose meters operate on the
razor blade model, give away the razors away cheap, but charge like a
f****r for the blades.

In fact, the USB cable was even sent to me for free from Bayer. The
particular model of glucose meter that I have now is serial port device,
so Bayer sent me a serial-USB converter cable for free. Nowadays, they
have a newer version of the Contour that looks just like a data stick
including a built-in USB connector.

http://www.bayercontourusb.com/

Yousuf Khan

On 2/19/2012 1:27 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 19/02/2012 11:59 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
The good news is that most will accept a Fax because Faxes are
considered secure as they are point to point.

The only reason faxes are more secure than e-mail is that fax isn't used
enough to make it a tempting target. Faxes are just binary code
transmitted over phone lines. Phone lines can be hacked, so....

Bottom line: if it's transmitted over any kind of network, in any
format, it can be hacked. If the information is valuable enough, someone
will hack it.

Anyhow, e-mails can be encrypted using public-key methods. The doc only
has to give his patients the public key half of his encryption key. It
can't be used to decrypt the mail.

Wolf K.

Yes Faxes can be intercepted by those who know how and are willing to
tap your phone call, anywhere along the line.

We used to do that while I was in the Air Force over 25 years ago in
order to catch contractors attempting to use Faxes as a "secure" means
of communicating between our sites and their company offices. True we
had warning signs advising that all communications at this facility are
subject to monitoring, but most idiots seemed to think that only
pertained to voice calls.

Most times the phoney contract was quietly quashed and the offending
company placed on a "drop dead" list for a year. The public nature of
lawsuits kept these proceedings "quiet" in order to facilitate catching
others.

We fed the Fax signal into modified modems and sent the output to
another fax machine or Fax server for what ever the legal eagles wanted
to do with it. We could read the faxes live or from a tape using this
method.

On 2/19/2012 2:37 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 18/02/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

I use a Bayer Contour glucose meter, it has a USB connector on it
already. Don't know if there are similar style blood pressure machines.


I've seen some at my local CVS drug store that can be used with a PC to
record a journal of your blood pressure readings. Not sure how it hook
up to the PC, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were through a USB port.


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 10.0.2
Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:43:43 PM

On 19/02/2012 9:12 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
[...]
Yes Faxes can be intercepted by those who know how and are willing to
tap your phone call, anywhere along the line.
[snip account of a simple fax hack]

When it comes to security, it helps to be paranoid. ;-)

Wolf K.

On 20/02/2012 2:31 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
You could just email me your results and I can multiply them by 2 and
use them as mine. My results are never that low. You must starve
yourself or eat all that food with no flavor.

Actually it was hard work getting the numbers down to that. I cut
back heavily on carbs (no more than 15 g per meal) and didn't replace
them with anything, also stopped eating what my wife left over, and cut
back in-between snacks to very low levels (only sometimes). I lost 30 kg
over two or three years to get from obese to normal weight, and brought
my fasting BG down from the 8-9 mmol range and want to keep it that way.
Also added a 30 minute per day walking exercise regimen as well (I was
pretty sedentary).

But it's an individual thing and the disease is progressive, so I don't
know how long I can maintain those numbers or if it'll work for you.

On 19/02/2012 3:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

Program the machines at the factory to send the data to an email
address stored on a USB wireless network adapter. I know that the
devices do not use this method now, but it would be an almost no cost
improvement if manufacturers would implement it.
Just so you know, there's another good newsgroup that might be able to
help you: alt.support.diabetes
There's also a web site called www.tudiabetes.org where there are
discussions on this sort of thing in different support groups. It's sort
of like a moderated newsgroup but on the web.

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:04:53 +1100, dweebken
wrote:

On 19/02/2012 3:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

Program the machines at the factory to send the data to an email
address stored on a USB wireless network adapter. I know that the
devices do not use this method now, but it would be an almost no cost
improvement if manufacturers would implement it.
Just so you know, there's another good newsgroup that might be able to
help you: alt.support.diabetes
There's also a web site called www.tudiabetes.org where there are
discussions on this sort of thing in different support groups. It's sort
of like a moderated newsgroup but on the web.

Thanks

Metspitzer wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:59:24 -0500, Art
wrote:

On 2/18/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

Program the machines at the factory to send the data to an email
address stored on a USB wireless network adapter. I know that the
devices do not use this method now, but it would be an almost no cost
improvement if manufacturers would implement it.

Lots of nice ideas in this thread. However, most, if not all, medical
people, insurance and doctors, will not accept medical data via email.
As far as I'm concerned, I have no problem if someone sees my data,
however, the privacy thing and lawyers have got everyone running scared.
The good news is that most will accept a Fax because Faxes are
considered secure as they are point to point.

You are correct that sending medical info email is a security issue. I
have run into problems from sending medical info to/from doctor's many
times. My hope would be to have my blood pressure machine email "me"
with the results. I could then fax them or send them to a secure web
site managed by the hospital. (My hospital does not have a secure web
site, but it should)

Faxing to the doctor locally is not really a problem, but faxing to
another state is a problem for me as I don't have long distance on my
phone. More and more people are using cell phones only and don't even
have a phone line to send a fax.

A secure web page would be nice for that.
It funny that you are concerned about e-mail security when doctors
around here (Ohio) don't write prescriptions, they type them up on their
electronic records keeping system, paid in part by the government, and
transmit them to the pharmacy, also records from my specialists are
transmitted to my family doctor.

Jim

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:51:01 -0500, Jim
wrote:

Metspitzer wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:59:24 -0500, Art
wrote:

On 2/18/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

Program the machines at the factory to send the data to an email
address stored on a USB wireless network adapter. I know that the
devices do not use this method now, but it would be an almost no cost
improvement if manufacturers would implement it.

Lots of nice ideas in this thread. However, most, if not all, medical
people, insurance and doctors, will not accept medical data via email.
As far as I'm concerned, I have no problem if someone sees my data,
however, the privacy thing and lawyers have got everyone running scared.
The good news is that most will accept a Fax because Faxes are
considered secure as they are point to point.

You are correct that sending medical info email is a security issue. I
have run into problems from sending medical info to/from doctor's many
times. My hope would be to have my blood pressure machine email "me"
with the results. I could then fax them or send them to a secure web
site managed by the hospital. (My hospital does not have a secure web
site, but it should)

Faxing to the doctor locally is not really a problem, but faxing to
another state is a problem for me as I don't have long distance on my
phone. More and more people are using cell phones only and don't even
have a phone line to send a fax.

A secure web page would be nice for that.
It funny that you are concerned about e-mail security when doctors
around here (Ohio) don't write prescriptions, they type them up on their
electronic records keeping system, paid in part by the government, and
transmit them to the pharmacy, also records from my specialists are
transmitted to my family doctor.

Jim
Actually I am not concerned about email security, but the hospital is.
I would be fine with having the hospital email me my labs, but they
insist on faxing it. Since I only have one phone line, I have to be
ready for a fax to get one. This means the lab has to call me and
tell me to turn on the fax machine.

Many times I ask the lab to send results through regular mail because
they refuse to email labs to me.

I just want a computer to computer way to get my labs to and from the
hospital. Right now, none exist.

My doctors do keep my pharmacy numbers for mail order and local
prescriptions on file. That was long past due though. In the not so
distant past, I have had the doctor write me a prescription and I
would go to the reception desk and have them fax the prescription to
my local pharmacy. They usually accept faxes from the reception desk,
but there have been problems with that. They would never take a
prescription from a fax that was not located in the hospital.

Sometimes the doctor has just handed me a prescription and I needed to
go home before having the prescription filled. To keep from making
two trips (or waiting 30-60min), I have asked the pharmacy if I could
fax the prescription and then bring in the original and they refused.

On 19/02/2012 10:43 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
On 2/19/2012 2:37 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 18/02/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

I use a Bayer Contour glucose meter, it has a USB connector on it
already. Don't know if there are similar style blood pressure machines.


I've seen some at my local CVS drug store that can be used with a PC to
record a journal of your blood pressure readings. Not sure how it hook
up to the PC, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were through a USB port.

I found a listing for a blood pressure machine that records your
readings to PC:

http://is.gd/cjN3H1, or
http://contecmedical.en.made-in-chin...NTEC-08A-.html

Yousuf Khan

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:33:14 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

On 19/02/2012 10:43 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
On 2/19/2012 2:37 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 18/02/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

I use a Bayer Contour glucose meter, it has a USB connector on it
already. Don't know if there are similar style blood pressure machines.


I've seen some at my local CVS drug store that can be used with a PC to
record a journal of your blood pressure readings. Not sure how it hook
up to the PC, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were through a USB port.

I found a listing for a blood pressure machine that records your
readings to PC:

http://is.gd/cjN3H1, or
http://contecmedical.en.made-in-chin...NTEC-08A-.html

Yousuf Khan
Thanks.
I know they exist. I understand that USB is the current wave of the
future.

My suggestion of adding a USB network adapter to automate the transfer
of data to computers was my idea of an economical way to add
"wireless" to things like blood meters and bathroom scales ect.

Special software for the data doesn't seem necessary if the test
equipment could just email out an excel file

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:45:08 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:51:01 -0500, Jim
wrote:

Metspitzer wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:59:24 -0500, Art
wrote:

On 2/18/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

Program the machines at the factory to send the data to an email
address stored on a USB wireless network adapter. I know that the
devices do not use this method now, but it would be an almost no cost
improvement if manufacturers would implement it.

Lots of nice ideas in this thread. However, most, if not all, medical
people, insurance and doctors, will not accept medical data via email.
As far as I'm concerned, I have no problem if someone sees my data,
however, the privacy thing and lawyers have got everyone running scared.
The good news is that most will accept a Fax because Faxes are
considered secure as they are point to point.

You are correct that sending medical info email is a security issue. I
have run into problems from sending medical info to/from doctor's many
times. My hope would be to have my blood pressure machine email "me"
with the results. I could then fax them or send them to a secure web
site managed by the hospital. (My hospital does not have a secure web
site, but it should)

Faxing to the doctor locally is not really a problem, but faxing to
another state is a problem for me as I don't have long distance on my
phone. More and more people are using cell phones only and don't even
have a phone line to send a fax.

A secure web page would be nice for that.
It funny that you are concerned about e-mail security when doctors
around here (Ohio) don't write prescriptions, they type them up on their
electronic records keeping system, paid in part by the government, and
transmit them to the pharmacy, also records from my specialists are
transmitted to my family doctor.

Jim
Actually I am not concerned about email security, but the hospital is.
I would be fine with having the hospital email me my labs, but they
insist on faxing it. Since I only have one phone line, I have to be
ready for a fax to get one. This means the lab has to call me and
tell me to turn on the fax machine.

Many times I ask the lab to send results through regular mail because
they refuse to email labs to me.

I just want a computer to computer way to get my labs to and from the
hospital. Right now, none exist.

My doctors do keep my pharmacy numbers for mail order and local
prescriptions on file. That was long past due though. In the not so
distant past, I have had the doctor write me a prescription and I
would go to the reception desk and have them fax the prescription to
my local pharmacy. They usually accept faxes from the reception desk,
but there have been problems with that. They would never take a
prescription from a fax that was not located in the hospital.

Sometimes the doctor has just handed me a prescription and I needed to
go home before having the prescription filled. To keep from making
two trips (or waiting 30-60min), I have asked the pharmacy if I could
fax the prescription and then bring in the original and they refused.

use efax.com?

On 2/19/2012, Art Todesco posted:
On 2/18/2012 11:41 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
I have two medical devices that force me to make a list of results for
the doctor. One is my blood pressure machine and the other is my
blood glucose tester.

I don't know if anyone else would find it useful, but I would like to
be able to transfer the data to my computer instead of having to write
it down. I know I can get an expensive model, but I think I have a
pretty economical solution by adding a USB port to each device.

Program the machines at the factory to send the data to an email
address stored on a USB wireless network adapter. I know that the
devices do not use this method now, but it would be an almost no cost
improvement if manufacturers would implement it.

Lots of nice ideas in this thread. However, most, if not all, medical
people, insurance and doctors, will not accept medical data via email. As far
as I'm concerned, I have no problem if someone sees my data, however, the
privacy thing and lawyers have got everyone running scared. The good news
is that most will accept a Fax because Faxes are considered secure as they
are point to point.

I know someone who knows, who tells me that fax numbers have been
misdialed when sending medical data...

One time when I had just moved and gotten a new phone, I also received
a long voice mail from a psychiatrist who had a lot to say about a
patient, including said patient's symptoms and name. BTW, this was
*after* I had put my own outgoing message on the system. Doctor and
Hospital are not parts of my name or my message...

I did erase the message without writing anything down and without
remembering anything.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 20/02/2012 1:52 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:33:14 -0500, Yousuf Khan
I found a listing for a blood pressure machine that records your
readings to PC:

http://is.gd/cjN3H1, or
http://contecmedical.en.made-in-chin...NTEC-08A-.html

Yousuf Khan
Thanks.
I know they exist. I understand that USB is the current wave of the
future.

Well, they have been the wave the future, if you consider the future to
be whatever has happened since 1998.

My suggestion of adding a USB network adapter to automate the transfer
of data to computers was my idea of an economical way to add
"wireless" to things like blood meters and bathroom scales ect.

Special software for the data doesn't seem necessary if the test
equipment could just email out an excel file

Actually, for that sort of wireless data transfer another sort of
connection standard already exists called Bluetooth. It's currently used
mainly to pair wireless headsets to your cellphone or computer. But it
can be used for almost any kind of wireless pairing.

Yousuf Khan