VPN and Wi-Fi Network

On 18/03/2020 12:16, mechanic wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:15:17 -0400, nospam wrote:

In article , mechanic
wrote:

If you forgot the wifi password, you'll need to log into your router.
You can either see your password or change it. In the last case you will
need to change the password in all other wifi connected equipment as
well.

if he doesn't remember the wifi password, what makes you think he
remembers the router password??

The manual of the router.

that will have the default password, which will be of no help if he
changed it, which is normally required.

in some cases, the isp configures it and only they know the password.

A factory reset of the router restores the default password.

along with all settings, requiring it to be reconfigured again, which
is what i said in my original post.

...in the UK consumer routers are usually supplied fully configured
for access by the ISP. Resetting that password is usually the only
config required.


For resetting the password you'll need to reset the router.
But how to reset the router if one doesn't know it?
And you cancel all the settings ...

Fokke

In article , Fokke Nauta
wrote:


For resetting the password you'll need to reset the router.
But how to reset the router if one doesn't know it?

press the hardware reset button, usually holding it down for several
seconds on power-on, but that varies per router.

And you cancel all the settings ...

yep.

On 18/03/2020 17:45, Fokke Nauta wrote:


But how to reset the router if one doesn't know it?


You need to hire a competent technician. They are normally very
helpful to solve IT related problems for a small charge. Perhaps you
can tell us how much are you willing to pay so that we can give you a
step-by-step video instructions that even you can understand. I can
upload the video on my private site for you to access it and even
download it.




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On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 11:16:51 +0000, mechanic wrote:

...in the UK consumer routers are usually supplied fully configured
for access by the ISP. Resetting that password is usually the only
config required.

Wow.

In the UK, the "router" is pre-configured for the ISP?
o That's extremely different from in the USA.

Here, in the USA, assuming cable ISP service, the "modem" usually is
configured by the cable company (e.g., Comcast); but not the router (unless
the router is supplied by the cable company, which isn't what most people
do AFAIK).

While I'm sure all sorts of ISP-equipment models can exist, here in the
USA, AFAIK, normally we just plug in the modem and call the cable company
on the phone and they remotely log into that modem to set it up.

As for the router, again, different models exist, but, AFAIK, normally the
user buys the router and then the user sets up the router to the ISP's
settings which are provided to them by the ISP for the WAN (the user is
free to choose LAN settings of their choice).

Often we employ a modern mobile device to choose the best bands, e.g.,
https://i.postimg.cc/hPyP1v4s/wifi.jpg
if we own Android phones (iOS devices are incapable of doing that).

As for me, I'm too far up in the mountains to have any access to cable ISP
so we have WISP which, in terms of equipment, is completely different than
ISP (e.g., we set up _everything_ ourselves, even down to assembling the
antenna & receiver and wiring the house, and climbing the roof, etc.).
o Curious how far your Wi-Fi access point is from your desktop computer
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/P8NRtecrOY4/ANRpkWbUDQAJ

However, in summary, for most people in the USA, they buy a modem from
Costco or Best Buy or whomever for around $100 or so (or they rent a crappy
one from the cable company for about $10 a month forever); then they buy a
router from Costco or Best Buy or whomever for another $100 (or so), or
they rent, again, forever, a crappy one from the cable company (which could
be an all-in-one unit from the cable company).

In the UK, if the ISP sets up the router, does that mean that the user
rents the router from the ISP forever?
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