HDD...

I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the windows
XP load see the entire HD?

IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump drive
(Maybe?)?
Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either, but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur at
the same time.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.


Thank You for any help.

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing
being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last
computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB
Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB.

"Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD.

I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short
period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD
burner.

You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but
it would be a good idea to do that, too.

Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the
windows
XP load see the entire HD?

Not with native XP tools. These do not allow change of partition sizes,
only creation and deletion.

With the native tools, you would first create a slipstreamed copy of the XP
install CD, and start over, deleting and recreating the partition.

This will also save you from having to download and install the basic
service packs - they will already be in place.

The other option is to attach the drive to another XP system, delete and
recreate the partition to the full size of the drive, and then re-install,
NOT choosing to partition the drive. Then, once the install is complete,
you can install SP2 then SP3, then further updates. Better to slipstream.


IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump
drive
(Maybe?)?

The problem with your drive size is that your XP install CD is pre-SP1.
It's unlikely that it's a limitation of the board, which was the other
possibility.

Whether you use 32 or 64 bit is *not* an issue, it was a defect in the
original XP partitioning utility.

Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either,
but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur
at
the same time.

Not unless you are installing a 64-bit version of XP. No 32-bit version
will give you access to any memory above around 3.2 gig.

If you are installing XP 64, be sure that you can get and have on hand
drivers, first. They may not be available, meaning that the install will
always be broken.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.

No, just slipstream it to SP2 or SP3, or attach the drive to another system
and re-partition and re-format the drive, and redo the install.

HTH
-pk



Thank You for any help.

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing
being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last
computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB
Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB.

"Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD.

I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a short
period of time with another system, the full SP2 package, n-Lite, and a CD
burner.

You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently have, but
it would be a good idea to do that, too.

Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the
windows
XP load see the entire HD?

Not with native XP tools. These do not allow change of partition sizes,
only creation and deletion.

With the native tools, you would first create a slipstreamed copy of the XP
install CD, and start over, deleting and recreating the partition.

This will also save you from having to download and install the basic
service packs - they will already be in place.

The other option is to attach the drive to another XP system, delete and
recreate the partition to the full size of the drive, and then re-install,
NOT choosing to partition the drive. Then, once the install is complete,
you can install SP2 then SP3, then further updates. Better to slipstream.


IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump
drive
(Maybe?)?

The problem with your drive size is that your XP install CD is pre-SP1.
It's unlikely that it's a limitation of the board, which was the other
possibility.

Whether you use 32 or 64 bit is *not* an issue, it was a defect in the
original XP partitioning utility.

Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either,
but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur
at
the same time.

Not unless you are installing a 64-bit version of XP. No 32-bit version
will give you access to any memory above around 3.2 gig.

If you are installing XP 64, be sure that you can get and have on hand
drivers, first. They may not be available, meaning that the install will
always be broken.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.

No, just slipstream it to SP2 or SP3, or attach the drive to another system
and re-partition and re-format the drive, and redo the install.

HTH
-pk



Thank You for any help.

snip

Patrick Keenan wrote:
snip
"Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD.

I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a
short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package,
n-Lite, and a CD burner.

You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently
have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too.
snip

You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD.

You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP
system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

snip

Patrick Keenan wrote:
snip
"Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD.

I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a
short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package,
n-Lite, and a CD burner.

You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently
have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too.
snip

You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD.

You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP
system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
snip

Patrick Keenan wrote:
snip
"Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD.

I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a
short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package,
n-Lite, and a CD burner.

You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently
have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too.
snip

You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD.

You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP
system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first.

Thanks for the clarification

-pk



--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
snip

Patrick Keenan wrote:
snip
"Of course", then, you have a pre-SP1, un-slipstreamed install CD.

I would suggest that you fix that first. That can be done in a
short period of time with another system, the full SP2 package,
n-Lite, and a CD burner.

You can't slipstream directly to SP3 from the disk you apparently
have, but it would be a good idea to do that, too.
snip

You can integrate Windows XP SP3 directly into a RTM Windows XP CD.

You cannot install Windows XP SP3 onto an installed/working Windows XP
system unless that system has SP1a or greater installed first.

Thanks for the clarification

-pk



--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing
being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last
computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB
Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the
windows
XP load see the entire HD?

IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump
drive
(Maybe?)?
Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either,
but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur
at
the same time.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.


Thank You for any help.

In addition to the XP slipstream information that was so ably answered by
Patrick and Shenan, have you downloaded all the XP drivers for your new
system? If not, I would recommend having them all available prior to any
attempt to install the OS. It may be that your new system won't have XP
drivers available for some or most of the new hardware in the computer. You
may be stuck with Vista which would then entail purchasing the Vista OS of
your choice.

Is the XP Pro CD you have a retail version or did it come with your old
"fried" system? If it came with the old system it is probably OEM and can
not "legally" be installed onto the new system anyhow.

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing
being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last
computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB
Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the
windows
XP load see the entire HD?

IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump
drive
(Maybe?)?
Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either,
but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur
at
the same time.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.


Thank You for any help.

In addition to the XP slipstream information that was so ably answered by
Patrick and Shenan, have you downloaded all the XP drivers for your new
system? If not, I would recommend having them all available prior to any
attempt to install the OS. It may be that your new system won't have XP
drivers available for some or most of the new hardware in the computer. You
may be stuck with Vista which would then entail purchasing the Vista OS of
your choice.

Is the XP Pro CD you have a retail version or did it come with your old
"fried" system? If it came with the old system it is probably OEM and can
not "legally" be installed onto the new system anyhow.

Create a "Slipstreamed" version of XP that incorporates SP3
AutoStreamer, it's easy to use and for the most part self explanatory.
After you create the CD then do a "Clean Install", see the last part
of my reply.

Auto Streamer Guide and Download Sites:
http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/u...streamer.shtml
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1

Where to download SP3
(This file will be used in created the slipstreamed CD)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP using SP3
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm (Using AutoStreamer)
http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstre...3_cd_final.htm
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

The slipstreamed CD you create will not include any specific drivers
for your motherboard, audio, video, network, etc. Those you will
need to download from your PC manufacture's or motherboard's
web site.

How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
Start by changing the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
Then see below:

From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_in...windows_xp.htm
also: http://www.bootdisk.com/

How to optimize your chances of installing Windows XP SP3 successfully:
http://www.pagestart.com/windowsxpsp3p3pg8.html

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing
being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last
computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB
Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the
windows
XP load see the entire HD?

IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump
drive
(Maybe?)?
Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either,
but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur
at
the same time.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.


Thank You for any help.

Create a "Slipstreamed" version of XP that incorporates SP3
AutoStreamer, it's easy to use and for the most part self explanatory.
After you create the CD then do a "Clean Install", see the last part
of my reply.

Auto Streamer Guide and Download Sites:
http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/u...streamer.shtml
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1

Where to download SP3
(This file will be used in created the slipstreamed CD)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP using SP3
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm (Using AutoStreamer)
http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstre...3_cd_final.htm
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp

The slipstreamed CD you create will not include any specific drivers
for your motherboard, audio, video, network, etc. Those you will
need to download from your PC manufacture's or motherboard's
web site.

How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
Start by changing the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
Then see below:

From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_in...windows_xp.htm
also: http://www.bootdisk.com/

How to optimize your chances of installing Windows XP SP3 successfully:
http://www.pagestart.com/windowsxpsp3p3pg8.html

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Chuck" wrote in message
...
I just got a new system with NO OS on it.

I did this as I have Windows XP Pro (Which I love), and the only thing
being
offered was a Vista product (which I do not so much love). MY last
computer
fried itself in a storm, so I am going to use my old CD to load WinXP.

Anyway... It is an Athlon Phenom Quad Core with 4GB of ram... so it is a
decent machine to get as an early Father's day present from the kids.

I tried to load my Win XP Pro disc, and of-course it only saw the 132GB
Hard
drive space while mine is 500GB. Obviously I can go online and get SP2...
but is there any way that I can now go back (with SP2) and have the
windows
XP load see the entire HD?

IF not; is there a way that someone can think of to make it see the entire
drive (assuming I have a Windows XP Pro 64 disc and the SP2 on a jump
drive
(Maybe?)?
Of course Windows XP Pro at this point does not see all the RAM either,
but
I figure if I can find a way to do one thing the other will probably occur
at
the same time.


I sure hope I do not have to go buy yet another copy of XP (so that I get
SP2 with the CD) Just to use the software I already purchased.


Thank You for any help.