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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position. Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been made-up on the spot? -- .~. Jean-David Beyer /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey ^^-^^ 17:10:02 up 21 days, 8:21, 2 users, load average: 4.89, 5.11, 5.34 |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
In article , Wolf K
wrote: Not too long ago, we took it for granted that our names, addresses, and phone numbers would be published every year in the phone book. We _wanted_ it that way. We wanted people to be able to reach us by phone or mail, and the phone book was a handy public repository of the necessary information. Some people had unlisted numbers. We accepted that a few few needed those because of harassment or other personal danger, but there was always the suspicion, occasionally voiced in a near sneer for example, that most unlisted numbers were just attempts at generating importance that the facts didn't warrant. But now, people try to conceal their phone numbers, don't want there addresses to be public knowledge, etc. the world is different now. back then, there weren't automated data mining bots scraping every bit of public information and cross-correlating it all to build incredibly detailed profiles about people, which can easily be accessed with a couple of keystrokes at any time, by anybody, from anywhere, providing a *lot* of detailed information, often with just a name. In the specialty magazines, I see more and more print ads that list only a website, no phone number, no physical address. Same on more and more product packaging. What are they trying to hide? they're not hiding anything. a web site is the most common and most efficient method to contact and hopefully order whatever it is, so that's what they provide. they don't need a store front or a staff answering phones anymore. |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 17:12:21 -0500, Jean-David Beyer
wrote: On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position. Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been made-up on the spot? That's with an error of +/- 3.726% -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 17:08:10 -0500, nospam
wrote: what you intended to say and what you actually said are not the same, but what's really odd are the lengths to which you are going to justify it. THat's good - coming from you. :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 22:35:16 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Wolf K" wrote | The plastic wasn't the problem. The | problem was the state of mind that produced the plastic | and then tried to "elegantize" it with wood grain contact | paper. | | Someone was listening. You now can get plastic (MDF-cored) cabinetry | that's unashamedly synthetic: colours and textures that can be achieved | only with plastics. | Melamine? I actually did a job a couple of years ago in a very posh condo where they wanted to repair the kitchen cabinets. They were surprised that I had never heard of the very posh brand: Poggenpohl, which has a designer store on the main fashion street in Boston. The customer figured they'd need to order new doors through the Poggenpohl dealer. The cabinets were too fancy for a mere carpenter to handle. Rosewood, or some such. I took off a hinge to see. It was plastic laminate made to look like a "generic" exotic wood. Rosewood. Bubinga. Whatever. The core was particle board. But not even good particle board. It was the low density stuff made of chips with a lot of air in between. Only the best fake exotic wood laminate for such expensive condos. An ex son in law told me that once knowingly bought a fake Rolex on the assurance that it had a good Seiko movement inside. It stopped one day and when he took it in to get fixed he found that it was a fake Seiko too ... More recently I was in a new hospice building. There was something that looked like a hand-carved cherry "screen", about 3'x8'. It looked very real. But on closer inspection I could see it was plastic. Part of what gave it away was the excessively rough, and regularly patterned, carving marks. That happens so often. It's the same with fake plastic panel doors. They'd look OK if they were smooth. But the manufacturers overcompensate, making them with such rough fake grain that they look sandblasted. If it were a real wood door then it would be thrown away: A pity they ruined it with the sandblasting. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On 2018-12-31, nospam wrote:
there is zero ambiguity what 'every call is recorded' means. It could mean that a record is made of every call. It could mean that a recording is made of every call. There is ambiguity. -- When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it. |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
Off-Topic
In article William Unruh wrote: On 2019-01-01, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 01/01/2019 02:44, nospam wrote: you cannot accept that 'every call is recorded' means something other than what you think it does, which is making an audio recording of every call, not a log of who called whom and when. All the kings horses and all the kings men, Couldnt put Humpty together again. Words do not mean what you alone intend them to mean. If you are only talking to yourself you can say what the **** you like If you are attempting communication (as against egotistical browbeating) with other people it behoves you to use words as others expect them to be used. Except other people, which includes individuals other than you, have different districts of meaning surrounding words, because they have different experience with the language and with life. It is that spread of meaning which makes poetry possible. (But then you probably hate poetry). |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On 01/01/2019 21:06, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-01 14:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 01/01/2019 17:26, Wolf K wrote: If you insist that it can't mean what I intended it to mean _in that context_, that's not my problem. It bloody well is. If you say 'I think I will shoot you' and wave a gun in my face, and I am also armed I will make a BIG problem for you even if you say, assuming you survive 'I didn't mean actually SHOOT you'. Oh, come on. This counter example is just fantasy. Actually, if you're a cop, you're supposed to be able to deescalate the situation. People who wave guns at cops either want to be shot ("suicide by cop", not very common) or are terrified they will be shot (most common). People who actually want to kill you (cop or not) don't wave the gun, still less announce their intention, they aim and squeeze the trigger. [1] I merely picked an extreme example to [prove te principle. If someone misunderstands you and takes action against you that is your problem. Stop weaselling If others act on your communications and their actions impinge on you, that IS your problem. You appear to be a solipsist or a narcissist. Fact is, you have to make sense of ambiguities in writing all the time. Can't be helped. Writing doesn't have intonation or body language etc to go with the words, hence the rules of writing are more stringent than the rules of speech. (I've violated one of the rules already.) That of course includes technical vocabulary, but even that isn't as neatly fixed as one would like. № its not a fact. Or wasnt until the socialist took control of education. Imn my day we were taught one way of doing things. Dictionaries defined standards, and sloppy writing that didn't make proper sense was punshable., You are clearly of the snowflake generation. As I said a narcissist or a solipsist. Not to mention, that on the borders where technical and vernacular overlap, there are dialectical/regional/etc differences. There have been plaints here that some technical term is misused, when what's actually happened is that it's been adopted into the vernacular, and so has lost its precision. You can't stop that process, but polite correction may prevent the worst excesses. Just don;t hold your breath. As I saifd it behones peole to use lsanguiage as their target audience expets it to be used and according to te standards So while I could have been more careful in composing my comment, I wasn't. Too bad for us both if you didn't take that into account when reading my comment. That's life. Acvoodrding to you, its not too bad for YOU. Bottom line: considering most posts on Usenet are mere reaction and not considered comment it's surprising there isn't more ambiguity and vagueness. Such as in your use of 'solipsist' and 'narcissist', which I infer are intended as insult. You infer wrong. But then narcissist always see the world as all about them. And prefer an insult to being ignored. They are intended as a statement of fact. Tsk, tsk. Your past posts have exhibited rather strong streak of curmudgeonliness, so I've discounted the apparent insult to mere bad temper. I have corrected your misapprehension. Your symptoms are very classic signs of clinical narcissism. In particular they insistence that your view is the One True View and everyone else is wrong. And your insistence that any misunderstanding is someone elses's problem. Add that to your obvious desire to be noticed and we have a fairly classic case of sociopathic narcissistic personality disorder, Of course the one thing a narcissist always denies is that he or she has a personality problem, as they have to maintian they are perfect in every way.... -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On 01/01/2019 21:31, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-01 15:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 01/01/2019 17:34, Wolf K wrote: So you haven't come across "check the record..." I have. Many times. It tends to be British usage, and it means what you would phrase as "Check the log..." I am 100% brit and I have NEVER heard ANYONE ever say that in an IT context. I believe you. But I've heard "check the phone records" on cop shows (eg just a couple of nights ago on Midsomer Murders) several times. See, not every context is IT. FTR, I don't consider billing as an exclusively IT context, but won't object if you want to see it as that. For billing, IT is just one tool among many. Collecting and recording the necessary data predates IT by, oh, a few centuries at least. FWIW, that dictionary I mentioned (British, published in Glasgow in 1948) lists six meanings for 'to record', none of which refer to or include audio recordings, even though its date would suggest that by that time "make an audio recording" would be a common meaning. Odd, eh? Outside of IT we might says 'look up the record(s)' but that would not be about phone calls* or their logs. Why have I heard in that sense then? You haven't. Like most narcissists you create a version of history that justifies your current position and believe in it completely. You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position. Nah, I'm just a collector of unconsidered trifles, since I know that one's experience is necessarily limited, so any and everything is worth a look. As I used to tell my students: "There is no such thing as a useless fact. There are only facts whose use you haven't discovered yet (and maybe never will). At the very least, some fact may in future connect two other facts." A principle that is not original with me, but I forget whom I stole it from. Some philosophers would say it's what gives facts their meaning(s), but that's another issue. I might have guessed a useless narcissist would turn to teaching a captive audience. Best, -- A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes. |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On 01/01/2019 22:12, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position. Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been made-up on the spot? I dnt know it, but I have long suspected that any facts that are printed or voiced in the MSM are random accidents. Once, newspapers were there to tell you news, and opinion was clearly labelled, and advertisements had their own sections. Now it is all advertisements disguised as opinion disguised as news. -- You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. Al Capone |
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Pushing Back Against Backdoors: 2018 Year in Review
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 04:29:39 +0000, LO AND BEHOLD; The Natural
Philosopher determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in : ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ On 01/01/2019 22:12, Jean-David Beyer wrote: ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ On 1/1/19 3:05 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ You seem to be addicted to making up stuff that justifies your position. ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Did you know that 98.765% of all the statistics you read have been ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ made-up on the spot? ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ I dnt know it, but I have long suspected that any facts that are printed ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ or voiced in the MSM are random accidents. ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Once, newspapers were there to tell you news, and opinion was clearly ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ labelled, and advertisements had their own sections. ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ ✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡✡ Now it is all advertisements disguised as opinion disguised as news. you must be talking about any "news" program that covers worthless sports. like the "nationalist football league", for instance. -- [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECK® VALIDATION] THIS SPACE FOR RENT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA "Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) "Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan) - "You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor - "If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode - "I think we should destroy every last ****ing mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: - Golden Killfile, June 2005 KOTM, November 2006 Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007 Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006 Busted Urinal Award, April 2007 Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008 Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007 AUK Mascot, September 2007 Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD ****heads, March 2016 |
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