Office 2007 strange prob.

On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:10:33 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

I will try to shorten this up, I am just curious if anyone has any idea
here.
Today I was changing some stuff on the desktop (W7 64 bit). I took out a
couple extra users we never used, they were only there as a class project. I
was moving some stuff from my laptop, same OS, and all of a sudden I noticed
I could not open anything with Office 2007, not Word Docs, or Excel books.
Checked the program it said it was fine. I could open both, make up
something, but as soon as I saved it I would get an error trying to open it.
I could put it on a flash and open it with the laptop but no go on the
desktop. Tried removing the Office suite and re installing it, same thing.
Could make something in Word or Excel but once it was closed, it would not
open on the desktop but worked fine on the laptop. ****ed me off to the
point I finally just formatted the desktop and loaded all back in, now it
works fine. Just has me wondering what the hell I did to screw it up just
removing some extra users????

Since you neglected to mention how you tried to open the file, and
failed to give a clear idea of what the error message was, I'll make an
assumption.

Here goes:
You tried to open the file by double clicking on it, but while you were
making the changes you mentioned, you had managed to break the file
associations. As a result, windows no longer knew where to send the
file.

If that were so, you could have opened the file inside of Office 7 apps
by going to the file-open menu and browsing to the desired file. Or you
could have recreated the file associations.

That sort of thing happens a lot, unfortunately.

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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
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I'd probably set it up the way I want it, then create a complete
image. The next time it's that screwed up you could restore the image
you created, rather than restoring the factory image.

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Char Jackson

Does Win 7 have this built in or is it something you have to buy like
Acronis? The box every now and then wants me to use Dell Datasafe which is
I think their pay version of this but I have not paid any attention to it.
Before I threw in the towel and just told it to start over I looked at
system restore but the only date available was that day. I take it they must
have done away with this? I know it used to be you had all kinds of dates
you could go back to when something was wrong.
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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...

Since you neglected to mention how you tried to open the file, and
failed to give a clear idea of what the error message was, I'll make an
assumption.

Here goes:
You tried to open the file by double clicking on it, but while you were
making the changes you mentioned, you had managed to break the file
associations. As a result, windows no longer knew where to send the
file.

If that were so, you could have opened the file inside of Office 7 apps
by going to the file-open menu and browsing to the desired file. Or you
could have recreated the file associations.

That sort of thing happens a lot, unfortunately.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Thanks, as I mentioned I should have taken some shots of what was popping
up, but after trying for an hour or so and then giving up I never thought of
it. It was only after I had fixed it that I was wondering what the hell I
had done in the first place to FUBAR it. If it happens again I will try to
remember to take a couple shots first so I can show what I was seeing. It
was more just curiosity after I fixed it, little late now I know. G
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:25:01 -0800, "Alex Clayton"
wrote:

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
.. .

I'd probably set it up the way I want it, then create a complete
image. The next time it's that screwed up you could restore the image
you created, rather than restoring the factory image.

--

Char Jackson

Does Win 7 have this built in or is it something you have to buy like
Acronis? The box every now and then wants me to use Dell Datasafe which is
I think their pay version of this but I have not paid any attention to it.

Yes, Win 7 has a rudimentary image backup system, I believe. I use
Acronis, but others have reported mostly good results with the Windows
backup app. Acronis even has a function that turns Windows backup
images into Acronis backup images, and vice versa.

Before I threw in the towel and just told it to start over I looked at
system restore but the only date available was that day. I take it they must
have done away with this? I know it used to be you had all kinds of dates
you could go back to when something was wrong.

You may have installed a Windows update that needed to remove prior
updates. Otherwise, I expect there would have been more than one.

System Restore is entirely different from System Backup. One of the
first things I do when building a system is to disable Restore so I
have no experience with it. I prefer to fix problems as they arise
rather than rolling back to an unknown (but "working") state. When a
person uses System Restore to fix a problem, what other changes have
been rolled back at the same time? I don't know, and that uncertainty
turns me off, but I know that many people use it successfully. Still,
Restore is only the little brother to a proper backup. (I wonder if
that comment will get me in trouble. )

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"Alex Clayton" wrote in message
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"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
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Alex

What you posted as the issue is typical when the Trial version of 2010 expired.
Just my 2 cents

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The machine had, and now does again have, a 60 day trial of Office 2010, but I
have 6 licenses of Office 2007 which is what I use. The first time I set it up I
deleted the 2010 trial along with other stuff I will not use like the McAfee and
other trial crap.
This time around I have not yet bothered to remove the 2010 trial since it does
not seem to bother the 2007 version I use.
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BUT, did you also uninstall the Activation Assistant ?? What you are describing and
I say it AGAIN is that the Trial version of Office is not uninstalled and\or the
Activation Assistant that is installed with the Trial (Any version) of Office is not
uninstalled and will cause this issue that you are describing to a tee.

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"Alex Clayton" wrote:

so I said screw it and told the thing to put it's
self back to factory original.

That's one way, did you just try a system restore back to an earlier
time when it was working? That usually works for me.

I also use Acronis True Image to keep current images of my "C" drive so
I can restore it if needed. There are other imaging programs, I know
Acronis works so I can recommend it. *IF* you're running a Western
Digital drive or a Seagate/Maxtor drive you can get the program for
free from their websites.



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"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
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BUT, did you also uninstall the Activation Assistant ?? What you are
describing and I say it AGAIN is that the Trial version of Office is not
uninstalled and\or the Activation Assistant that is installed with the
Trial (Any version) of Office is not uninstalled and will cause this issue
that you are describing to a tee.

--
Peter


I do not know. I will go back and take a look at it.
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 07:21:13 +1100, DJT wrote:

LOL, ya I guess I should have wrote down what it was saying. Now that it's
fixed it really does not matter just idle curiosity as to how just removing
a couple users could screw it up that bad. Thought it might click with
someone who knows more about this than I do.
Hope fully it will not happen again, but if it does I can always fix it the
hard way again. G

I had a similar problem with Office 2007 when I loaded a new Utility(
Can't remember what it was). I uninstalled the new program, still no
good. So I did a system restore to prior to the installation of the
new program and everything was ok.

I still don't have any idea what the new program did to stuff up
Office

When things like this happen, a Repair of Office almost always does
the trick. Open Programs and Features, click on Office, and then
click Repair in the menu strip at the top.

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On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:28:16 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:
That was the first thing I tried. It ran a check and said all was fine. Next
was the remove it completely and re install, still same. I could use word
and Excel but not open the file after I closed it

I wonder if you installed for "All Users" or for "Current User", and
if you had fully elevated privilege for the install.



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"XS11E" wrote in message
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"Alex Clayton" wrote:

so I said screw it and told the thing to put it's
self back to factory original.

That's one way, did you just try a system restore back to an earlier
time when it was working? That usually works for me.

I also use Acronis True Image to keep current images of my "C" drive so
I can restore it if needed. There are other imaging programs, I know
Acronis works so I can recommend it. *IF* you're running a Western
Digital drive or a Seagate/Maxtor drive you can get the program for
free from their websites.



--

That was the last thing I tried after removing the software and reinstalling
it failed. When I went to system restore though the only date available was
that day. Apparently they have changed something in W-7. with XP and Vista I
would get a little calendar with all kinds of dates I could roll back to. I
did try having it use the only date it offered, and it of course did
nothing, so that was when I rebooted into restore and told it to just go
back to factory original. By that time I was out of patience with it.
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:33:50 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"XS11E" wrote in message
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"Alex Clayton" wrote:

so I said screw it and told the thing to put it's
self back to factory original.

That's one way, did you just try a system restore back to an earlier
time when it was working? That usually works for me.

I also use Acronis True Image to keep current images of my "C" drive so
I can restore it if needed. There are other imaging programs, I know
Acronis works so I can recommend it. *IF* you're running a Western
Digital drive or a Seagate/Maxtor drive you can get the program for
free from their websites.



--

That was the last thing I tried after removing the software and reinstalling
it failed. When I went to system restore though the only date available was
that day. Apparently they have changed something in W-7. with XP and Vista I
would get a little calendar with all kinds of dates I could roll back to. I
did try having it use the only date it offered, and it of course did
nothing, so that was when I rebooted into restore and told it to just go
back to factory original. By that time I was out of patience with it.

No, Win 7 can keep many, many restore points. But there are things
(unfortunately, they are things of mystery, I have to say) that can
cause them to get lost. Maybe with your Office problem something also
happened to lose older restore points.

Currently, I have 40(!) restore points on this computer (Windows 7 Home
Premium 64-bit). Thirty-eight of them are since Nov 17, 2010. However,
two are from February this year. That's pretty weird.

Take the numbers 38 and 40 as sort of +- 2, since it's hard to count
them accurately. I'm OK counting up to 2, however, so the count of the
February ones is good :-)

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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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Since you neglected to mention how you tried to open the file, and
failed to give a clear idea of what the error message was, I'll make an
assumption.

Here goes:
You tried to open the file by double clicking on it, but while you were
making the changes you mentioned, you had managed to break the file
associations. As a result, windows no longer knew where to send the
file.

If that were so, you could have opened the file inside of Office 7 apps
by going to the file-open menu and browsing to the desired file. Or you
could have recreated the file associations.

That sort of thing happens a lot, unfortunately.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Thanks, as I mentioned I should have taken some shots of what was popping
up, but after trying for an hour or so and then giving up I never thought of
it. It was only after I had fixed it that I was wondering what the hell I
had done in the first place to FUBAR it. If it happens again I will try to
remember to take a couple shots first so I can show what I was seeing. It
was more just curiosity after I fixed it, little late now I know. G

It would have been nice if you told us how you tried to run the
program...

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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

It would have been nice if you told us how you tried to run the
program...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

All I did at first was just removed a couple of users accounts that were
never used. They were only put on as a class project. I then tried to open a
Word doc and it would not. Tried an Excel same thing. I could make a new
Excel book or Word doc, but as soon as I saved it that was it would not
open. I could save it to a flash drive and open them on this PC but nothing
on the desktop. After trying several things I mentioned here I gave up and
formatted it.
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:12:01 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

It would have been nice if you told us how you tried to run the
program...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

All I did at first was just removed a couple of users accounts that were
never used. They were only put on as a class project. I then tried to open a
Word doc and it would not. Tried an Excel same thing. I could make a new
Excel book or Word doc, but as soon as I saved it that was it would not
open. I could save it to a flash drive and open them on this PC but nothing
on the desktop. After trying several things I mentioned here I gave up and
formatted it.

PLEASE tell me how you tried to open the Word document.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:12:01 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0800, Alex Clayton wrote:

It would have been nice if you told us how you tried to run the
program...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

All I did at first was just removed a couple of users accounts that were
never used. They were only put on as a class project. I then tried to
open a
Word doc and it would not. Tried an Excel same thing. I could make a new
Excel book or Word doc, but as soon as I saved it that was it would not
open. I could save it to a flash drive and open them on this PC but
nothing
on the desktop. After trying several things I mentioned here I gave up
and
formatted it.

PLEASE tell me how you tried to open the Word document.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Double click.
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