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On 2017-03-25, Wolf K wrote:

Jorge's contributions still don't show up.

He's trolling. Duh.

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On 25 Mar 2017 04:06:14 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2017-03-25, Wolf K wrote:

Jorge's contributions still don't show up.

He's trolling. Duh.



If so, that's the weirdest way of trolling I've ever seen.

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.

The sesame seeds and the pickles are nice
additions but overall it was just nasty. Oh, and I went all out in my
ordering... and found the fries were oddly sweet (not to my taste) and the
ice cream completely flavorless (though the chocolate it was dipped in was
passably good).

Have a good friend who HATES In-N-Out and loves McDonald's fries and thinks
the only fast food burger worth eating is the Big Mac.

I don't like the burger or fries, but I do like the chicken nuggets.

Which of us is right?

Both... it is what WE prefer.



--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"My husband is not a Christian but is a religious man, I think."
[Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, in _Toward The Mystery_]

On 3/25/17, 11:34 AM, in article , "Mark
Lloyd" wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.

Agreed. To be fair, even my preferred In-N-Out has a tiny patty and they use
some sort of American cheese stuff... not real cheese at all. Would it be
that much more expensive to use Cheddar or something else real?

The sesame seeds and the pickles are nice
additions but overall it was just nasty. Oh, and I went all out in my
ordering... and found the fries were oddly sweet (not to my taste) and the
ice cream completely flavorless (though the chocolate it was dipped in was
passably good).

Have a good friend who HATES In-N-Out and loves McDonald's fries and thinks
the only fast food burger worth eating is the Big Mac.

I don't like the burger or fries, but I do like the chicken nuggets.

Have not had those in at least 30 years so I cannot comment.

Which of us is right?

Both... it is what WE prefer.




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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.

As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

if you limit yourself to the worst of the bunch, then it's no surprise
you think fast food burgers are horrible. there are quite a few fast
food burger places than just those, some of which are actually decent.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:47:20 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

To further illustrate that we all have our own preferences, which is a
good thing and not a bad thing, here are mine. With extremely few
exceptions, I've found hamburgers in 'real' restaurants to be generally
awful, or at best mediocre. If I want an excellent burger, I go to Five
Guys or In-n-Out. Those two places never disappoint. If necessary, I can
deal with Wendy's and McDonald's. Burger King stopped being a viable
alternative decades ago, and I don't have enough experience with Carl's
Jr and Jack-in-the-Box to have an opinion.

I believe I've read that there's an evolutionary reason why we all
prefer slightly different foods. If everyone ate exactly the same foods,
a problem with those foods, such as scarcity or mass spoilage to the
extent that it kills people, would put the population at risk. Or at
least it might have when the tribe consisted of much smaller numbers.

In article
Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.

The sesame seeds and the pickles are nice
additions but overall it was just nasty. Oh, and I went all out in my
ordering... and found the fries were oddly sweet (not to my taste) and the
ice cream completely flavorless (though the chocolate it was dipped in was
passably good).

Have a good friend who HATES In-N-Out and loves McDonald's fries and thinks
the only fast food burger worth eating is the Big Mac.

I don't like the burger or fries, but I do like the chicken nuggets.

Which of us is right?

Both... it is what WE prefer.



--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"My husband is not a Christian but is a religious man, I think."
[Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, in _Toward The Mystery_]

In article
Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. =
Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The =
extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo =
and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade=20
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that=20
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

On 3/25/17, 1:12 PM, in article ,
"Char Jackson" wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:47:20 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

To further illustrate that we all have our own preferences, which is a
good thing and not a bad thing, here are mine. With extremely few
exceptions, I've found hamburgers in 'real' restaurants to be generally
awful, or at best mediocre. If I want an excellent burger, I go to Five
Guys or In-n-Out. Those two places never disappoint. If necessary, I can
deal with Wendy's and McDonald's. Burger King stopped being a viable
alternative decades ago, and I don't have enough experience with Carl's
Jr and Jack-in-the-Box to have an opinion.

Jack in the Box has a decent one with bacon... but I eat it so rarely I
forget which one and when I do order it I end up with the wrong one half the
time (I have one from there ever few years... so no big deal). Also costs an
arm and a leg.

I believe I've read that there's an evolutionary reason why we all
prefer slightly different foods. If everyone ate exactly the same foods,
a problem with those foods, such as scarcity or mass spoilage to the
extent that it kills people, would put the population at risk. Or at
least it might have when the tribe consisted of much smaller numbers.

Makes some sense. And, well, we are all individuals... we are going to like
different things.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 03/25/2017 02:47 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

I find a lot of things (including biscuits and ice cream), where the
fast food (and grocery store) versions are very different from the
homemade one.

[snip]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"My husband is not a Christian but is a religious man, I think."
[Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, in _Toward The Mystery_]

In article
Snit wrote:

On 3/25/17, 1:12 PM, in article ,
"Char Jackson" wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:47:20 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

To further illustrate that we all have our own preferences, which is a
good thing and not a bad thing, here are mine. With extremely few
exceptions, I've found hamburgers in 'real' restaurants to be generally
awful, or at best mediocre. If I want an excellent burger, I go to Five
Guys or In-n-Out. Those two places never disappoint. If necessary, I can
deal with Wendy's and McDonald's. Burger King stopped being a viable
alternative decades ago, and I don't have enough experience with Carl's
Jr and Jack-in-the-Box to have an opinion.

Jack in the Box has a decent one with bacon... but I eat it so rarely I
forget which one and when I do order it I end up with the wrong one half the
time (I have one from there ever few years... so no big deal). Also costs an
arm and a leg.

I believe I've read that there's an evolutionary reason why we all
prefer slightly different foods. If everyone ate exactly the same foods,
a problem with those foods, such as scarcity or mass spoilage to the
extent that it kills people, would put the population at risk. Or at
least it might have when the tribe consisted of much smaller numbers.

Makes some sense. And, well, we are all individuals... we are going to like
different things.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:03:18 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:51:02 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:


In California a "Double-Double" is the In-n-Out Burger go-to burger.

I've not eaten at an In-n-Out Burger place yet.

you haven't missed a thing. it's just another fast food joint.

There are fast food joints and there are fast food joints. They all
have a lot in common, but they are not all equal in quality. As far as
I'm concerned, In-n-Out Burger is not the best, but it's one of the
better choices.

definitely not. it's a run of the mill fast food joint, only more
crowded because of the hype.


Notice the phrase I used above "as far as I'm concerned." I try to
point out that we all have different tastes and different opinions,
but you reject that and tell me that your tastes are right and mine
are wrong.

How old are you? Fifteen or sixteen?

Why, do you want him in your bed?

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On 3/25/17, 2:47 PM, in article , "Mark
Lloyd" wrote:

On 03/25/2017 02:47 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

[snip]

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

I find a lot of things (including biscuits and ice cream), where the
fast food (and grocery store) versions are very different from the
homemade one.

Absolutely. Bread, too. We make our own homemade bread... and at this point
cannot even stand the smell of the bread isle in super markets. We also have
made our own ice cream but there are brands we buy which I think are also
good.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:12:47 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:47:20 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:34:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 03/24/2017 02:44 PM, Snit wrote:

[snip]

I do not do much fast food, but when I do I mostly go to In-N-Out. Tried,
for the first time in my life, a Big Mac about a month ago. Yuck. The extra
bun is useless, the meat was flavorless, the sauce was too much mayo and
there was too much of it.

The meat is flavorless, like cardboard. I'd much rather have a homemade
hamburger, with good meat and I've never been able to make a patty that
wasn't thicker than TWO of the fast-food ones.



As far as I'm concerned, they are two very different things:
hamburgers and fast food hamburgers. They are so different that an
example of one shouldn't be compared with an example of the other;
it's almost like comparing fried chicken with lamb chops.

Having said that, I'll do what I just said shouldn't be done: I agree
with you that a homemade hamburger (or a real hamburger in a real
restaurant, not a fast-food place) is much better than any fast-food
hamburger. I love real hamburgers; I tolerate (sometimes) fast food
hamburgers.

And one more "having said that": comparing the various fast-food
hamburgers with each other, not with real hamburgers, I think Wendy's
are the best, Carl's Jr second, In-n-Out third, and McDonalds and
Jack-in-the-box tied for last.

To further illustrate that we all have our own preferences, which is a
good thing and not a bad thing, here are mine. With extremely few
exceptions, I've found hamburgers in 'real' restaurants to be generally
awful, or at best mediocre.



Interesting. Yes, we all have different tastes and different opinions,
but it surprises me that anyone would feel that way.