Vista to Win7 upgrade

I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.

In article , says...

I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.

Probably because the Win7 license is an OEM full install, not a retail
upgrade.

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On 12/29/2014 08:08 AM, Andrew Rossmann wrote:
In article , says...

I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.

Probably because the Win7 license is an OEM full install, not a retail
upgrade.




Ok, that makes sense...thanks


It's an old machine and probably not worth bothering with.

On 12/29/2014 09:26 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2014-12-29 7:38 AM, philo wrote:
I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.


AFAIK, Vista is just a prettified XP. W7/8 are major rewrites.

The clean install should have offered to transfer compatible programs
from the Vista system.


I did not get any such option.

It's just an old computer I'm fooling around with so it's really of no
importance. I just thought that I could use the win7 dvd to upgrade it.

I can back up the data and perform a clean install...but since it's just
a spare computer, will prob. just leave it with Vista

philo wrote:
On 12/29/2014 08:08 AM, Andrew Rossmann wrote:
In article , says...

I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.

Probably because the Win7 license is an OEM full install, not a retail
upgrade.




Ok, that makes sense...thanks


It's an old machine and probably not worth bothering with.

You did 32 bit to 64 bit or 64 bit to 32 bit. Those
are clean install.

Going Vista 32 bit to Win7 32 bit should work as an upgrade.
Going Vista 64 bit to Win7 64 bit should work as an upgrade.

HTH,
Paul

On 12/29/2014 10:49 AM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:





Ok, that makes sense...thanks


It's an old machine and probably not worth bothering with.

You did 32 bit to 64 bit or 64 bit to 32 bit. Those
are clean install.

Going Vista 32 bit to Win7 32 bit should work as an upgrade.
Going Vista 64 bit to Win7 64 bit should work as an upgrade.

HTH,
Paul



Yep, I was going 32 bit to 32bit

as I looked though my media I found a non-oem Win7 DVD here that I tried
and it did give me the upgrade option.


Now that that's settled, I've decided not to waste a Win7 install on
this older machine

thank you

On 12/29/2014 8:53 AM, philo wrote:
On 12/29/2014 10:49 AM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:





Ok, that makes sense...thanks


It's an old machine and probably not worth bothering with.

You did 32 bit to 64 bit or 64 bit to 32 bit. Those
are clean install.

Going Vista 32 bit to Win7 32 bit should work as an upgrade.
Going Vista 64 bit to Win7 64 bit should work as an upgrade.

HTH,
Paul



Yep, I was going 32 bit to 32bit

as I looked though my media I found a non-oem Win7 DVD here that I tried
and it did give me the upgrade option.


Now that that's settled, I've decided not to waste a Win7 install on
this older machine

thank you
I've found Vista quite usable if you add all the service packs.
Saving win7 is a good choice. Depending on how windows 10 turns out,
that unused win7 DVD may be worth something.

On 12/29/2014 04:11 PM, mike wrote:




Yep, I was going 32 bit to 32bit

as I looked though my media I found a non-oem Win7 DVD here that I tried
and it did give me the upgrade option.


Now that that's settled, I've decided not to waste a Win7 install on
this older machine

thank you
I've found Vista quite usable if you add all the service packs.
Saving win7 is a good choice. Depending on how windows 10 turns out,
that unused win7 DVD may be worth something.



Yes, I found out that Vista SP2 is pretty decent...for the machine it's
on...it's doing fine.


I am testing Win10 Technical Preview and I think it's going to be more
popular than Win8

Although the user can easily get to the tiles if need be, they are not
forced upon you by default.

I have it running in a virtual machine .

philo wrote:
On 12/29/2014 04:11 PM, mike wrote:




Yep, I was going 32 bit to 32bit

as I looked though my media I found a non-oem Win7 DVD here that I tried
and it did give me the upgrade option.


Now that that's settled, I've decided not to waste a Win7 install on
this older machine

thank you
I've found Vista quite usable if you add all the service packs.
Saving win7 is a good choice. Depending on how windows 10 turns out,
that unused win7 DVD may be worth something.



Yes, I found out that Vista SP2 is pretty decent...for the machine it's
on...it's doing fine.


I am testing Win10 Technical Preview and I think it's going to be more
popular than Win8

Although the user can easily get to the tiles if need be, they are not
forced upon you by default.

I have it running in a virtual machine .

Just an fyi...
Microsoft changed policy effective with 8.1 - i.e. Win 8.0 is the last
upgrade-ware thus Win10 (like Win 8.1) will follow the same route - all
software retail and OEM is full version ware and only capable of
retaining specific and limited prior o/s user settings and programs.

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Wolf K wrote:
On 2014-12-29 7:38 AM, philo wrote:
I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.


AFAIK, Vista is just a prettified XP. W7/8 are major rewrites.

The clean install should have offered to transfer compatible programs
from the Vista system.

Not always true. The upgrade route and type of media (boot dvd or run
setup.exe in the current os and full or upgrade version).

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msft mvp consumer apps

On 12/29/2014 04:46 PM, "...winston‫" wrote:



Yes, I found out that Vista SP2 is pretty decent...for the machine it's
on...it's doing fine.


I am testing Win10 Technical Preview and I think it's going to be more
popular than Win8

Although the user can easily get to the tiles if need be, they are not
forced upon you by default.

I have it running in a virtual machine .

Just an fyi...
Microsoft changed policy effective with 8.1 - i.e. Win 8.0 is the last
upgrade-ware thus Win10 (like Win 8.1) will follow the same route - all
software retail and OEM is full version ware and only capable of
retaining specific and limited prior o/s user settings and programs.




I usually do not upgrade operating systems...I find a clean install more
to my liking.

Right now I am downloading the most recent win10 iso
and am going to install it on real h/w on one of my "test" machines.

On 12/29/2014 9:26 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2014-12-29 7:38 AM, philo wrote:
I was going through some of my spare machines and found one with an OEM
version of Vista Ultimate.

Just for the heck of it, I thought I might as well use up a Win7
Ultimate OEM license.

When I put the DVD in the machine that was booted to Vista
I never got the expected option to upgrade...the only option was to
perform a clean install.


Not a big deal but just curious.


AFAIK, Vista is just a prettified XP. W7/8 are major rewrites.

The clean install should have offered to transfer compatible programs
from the Vista system.


Nope, XP was a "prettified" Win 2000, Win 7 is a prettified Vista.

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says...
AFAIK, Vista is just a prettified XP. W7/8 are major rewrites.

NOPE. Vista was the total rewrite (Windows 6.0). XP was an updated
Windows 2000 (Windows 5.0 to 5.1). Win7 is Windows 6.1, Win8 is 6.2, and
I think Win8.1 is 6.3. Win10 will be 10.0.

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Andrew Rossmann wrote:
In article ,
says...
AFAIK, Vista is just a prettified XP. W7/8 are major rewrites.

NOPE. Vista was the total rewrite (Windows 6.0). XP was an updated
Windows 2000 (Windows 5.0 to 5.1). Win7 is Windows 6.1, Win8 is 6.2, and
I think Win8.1 is 6.3. Win10 will be 10.0.


It took something like five years to write Vista.
And not enough testing before launch.
But it's surely paid off as a base.

Paul

In article , says...

Andrew Rossmann wrote:
In article ,
says...
AFAIK, Vista is just a prettified XP. W7/8 are major rewrites.

NOPE. Vista was the total rewrite (Windows 6.0). XP was an updated
Windows 2000 (Windows 5.0 to 5.1). Win7 is Windows 6.1, Win8 is 6.2, and
I think Win8.1 is 6.3. Win10 will be 10.0.


It took something like five years to write Vista.
And not enough testing before launch.
But it's surely paid off as a base.


Many of the issues were not MS's, but 3rd party drivers. I remember
reading a report from MS once that the root cause of many crashes were
early nVidia video drivers. Printing and video were the areas where
drivers required the most changes from 2K/XP.

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