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Old November 14th 14, 06:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Linea Recta[_2_]
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the notebook by
WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?



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Old November 14th 14, 06:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

On 14/11/2014 18:26, Linea Recta wrote:
I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the
notebook by WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?




Speed of light is still the fastest and so wired connection cannot
compete with Wi-fi in terms of speed. However, wired connection is much
more robust than the wi-fi and so if you want to avoid any corruption
when downloading large files then always use a wired connection.


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Old November 14th 14, 07:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

Linea Recta wrote:

I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the notebook by
WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?


How much faster? A few Mbps is within the deviation of testing. You
need to discard the first test, run the test 5 (10 is better) more
times, and then average those last 5 (or 10) tests to get a value to
compare against the other computer. What time of day did you use the
speed test site? Hit them when less busy, like when it's mid-morning
for them.

Did the speedtest.net test (or whatever site you used that you did not
identify) show speeds above 10 Mbps? If so, is the NIC (card or
onboard) in the PC capable of speeds higher than 10 Mbps? That you have
Windows 7 installed on a computer doesn't necessitate that it is a
relatively new computer. It could be an old computer whose NIC can only
get up to 10 Mbps (a max that is not achieved for sustained transfers).

Is the router configured with QoS (Quality of Service) to give priority
to wifi traffic over cabled Ethernet traffic?

How long is the CAT-5 cable from PC to the router? Did you try a
different (and shorter) cable? Did you try plugging the wired computer
into a different RJ-45 LAN port on the router?

Did you use a speed test page provided by your ISP (so you remain
in-network with your ISP for speed testing) or did you bounce out and
back in by using an external speed test site?

When you ran the speed test, did the web site connect to the SAME test
center for both tests? If 2 different sites were used then there are
different nodes in each hop between you and that site so latency and
responsiveness will vary. Did you try testing to a different site than
the default one they pre-selected for you? The speed test site rarely
has control over what hosts are in the hops between it and the speed
test site (the speed site doesn't operate its own data centers so
borrows hosts from elsewhere to do the tests). Physically close is not
always a good choice. A host that is next door might require you to go
over your ISP's network to a backbone provider off some hundreds of
miles away to reach another city to bounce back to that next-door host
that is using a different ISP. Speedtest.net likes to pick a test site
in a western suburb from my city along as the default. I can also pick
the state university in the same city, a city over a hundred miles in
the next state, or a test site in Chicago which is the same physical
location as my ISP's backbone provider. The university and Chicago give
the most consistent timings. The next-state test host has a bit more
variation. The suburb site varies a lot. Since I cannot perform a
traceroute from the speed test site to the actual speed test hosts, I
can't tell if the suburb site has more hops and what they are compared
to the other test sites.

What security software might you have installed on the PC that is not
installed on the wifi notebook? All security interrogation incurs time
to inspect hence adds delay. Did you test your PC by rebooting it into
Windows' safe mode with networking to ensure that nothing you load on
the PC is causing lag with network traffic?
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Old November 14th 14, 07:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Linea Recta[_2_]
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"VanguardLH" schreef in bericht
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Linea Recta wrote:

I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the notebook
by
WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?


How much faster? A few Mbps is within the deviation of testing. You
need to discard the first test, run the test 5 (10 is better) more
times, and then average those last 5 (or 10) tests to get a value to
compare against the other computer. What time of day did you use the
speed test site? Hit them when less busy, like when it's mid-morning
for them.

Did the speedtest.net test (or whatever site you used that you did not
identify) show speeds above 10 Mbps? If so, is the NIC (card or
onboard) in the PC capable of speeds higher than 10 Mbps? That you have
Windows 7 installed on a computer doesn't necessitate that it is a
relatively new computer. It could be an old computer whose NIC can only
get up to 10 Mbps (a max that is not achieved for sustained transfers).

Is the router configured with QoS (Quality of Service) to give priority
to wifi traffic over cabled Ethernet traffic?

How long is the CAT-5 cable from PC to the router? Did you try a
different (and shorter) cable? Did you try plugging the wired computer
into a different RJ-45 LAN port on the router?

Did you use a speed test page provided by your ISP (so you remain
in-network with your ISP for speed testing) or did you bounce out and
back in by using an external speed test site?

When you ran the speed test, did the web site connect to the SAME test
center for both tests? If 2 different sites were used then there are
different nodes in each hop between you and that site so latency and
responsiveness will vary. Did you try testing to a different site than
the default one they pre-selected for you? The speed test site rarely
has control over what hosts are in the hops between it and the speed
test site (the speed site doesn't operate its own data centers so
borrows hosts from elsewhere to do the tests). Physically close is not
always a good choice. A host that is next door might require you to go
over your ISP's network to a backbone provider off some hundreds of
miles away to reach another city to bounce back to that next-door host
that is using a different ISP. Speedtest.net likes to pick a test site
in a western suburb from my city along as the default. I can also pick
the state university in the same city, a city over a hundred miles in
the next state, or a test site in Chicago which is the same physical
location as my ISP's backbone provider. The university and Chicago give
the most consistent timings. The next-state test host has a bit more
variation. The suburb site varies a lot. Since I cannot perform a
traceroute from the speed test site to the actual speed test hosts, I
can't tell if the suburb site has more hops and what they are compared
to the other test sites.

What security software might you have installed on the PC that is not
installed on the wifi notebook? All security interrogation incurs time
to inspect hence adds delay. Did you test your PC by rebooting it into
Windows' safe mode with networking to ensure that nothing you load on
the PC is causing lag with network traffic?




Thanks for your input. I'll figure out the details and I'll be back on this
soon.



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Old November 14th 14, 11:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Roger Mills[_2_]
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

On 14/11/2014 18:41, Good Guy wrote:
On 14/11/2014 18:26, Linea Recta wrote:
I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the
notebook by WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?




Speed of light is still the fastest and so wired connection cannot
compete with Wi-fi in terms of speed. However, wired connection is much
more robust than the wi-fi and so if you want to avoid any corruption
when downloading large files then always use a wired connection.


I can't work whether you're joking or just stupid!
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Old November 15th 14, 12:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:26:07 +0100, "Linea Recta"
wrote:

I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the notebook by
WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?


On advice, our CCTV system is hard wired (Cat5 blue cable) and gives
good results.
  #7  
Old November 15th 14, 12:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Leala
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

On 14-Nov-2014 18:06, Roger Mills wrote:
On 14/11/2014 18:41, Good Guy wrote:
On 14/11/2014 18:26, Linea Recta wrote:
I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the
notebook by WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?




Speed of light is still the fastest and so wired connection cannot
compete with Wi-fi in terms of speed. However, wired connection is much
more robust than the wi-fi and so if you want to avoid any corruption
when downloading large files then always use a wired connection.


I can't work whether you're joking or just stupid!


I hope he's joking otherwise he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Old November 15th 14, 01:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

Linea Recta wrote:
I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the
notebook by WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?


This result is only reasonable under a particular set of conditions.

1) Modem/router all in one. (My assumption is, you haven't "put
something slow" downstream of the box.)
2) Modem/router has 802.11n or 802.11ac Wifi.
Modem/router has four 10/100BT ports (instead of GbE).
3) ISP offers a "Kansas-city fast Internet".
ISP rate is higher than 100BT can handle.
Rate is lower than 802.11n (ideal conditions)
or 802.11ac can provide.

It's unlikely an Ethernet port would be stuck at 10BT,
but I think you can force that at the PHY if you want.
Check for persistent ~1.25MB/sec rate.

The modem/router typically uses a processor to do the
routing. So it has limitations (WAN to LAN path).
The LAN to LAN path typically isn't limited in the same
way, as any LAN to LAN traffic doesn't need to "touch" the processor.
But your WAN to LAN (NIC) versus WAN to LAN (Wifi) paths
should have the same limitations as each other, in terms
of the processor.

My first home router ($300) could only do 3MB/sec WAN to LAN,
which is 24Mbit/sec or about as fast as the best ADSL2+ we have
here. My original router (no longer works) would be no good for VDSL,
which could weigh in at a faster speed than that. And a
cable modem is likely to surpass the capabilities of my
first router as well. When that happens, connect
directly to the modem/router box, to bypass any
bottlenecks.

If you have Kansas City Google Fiber, you need a really
good setup in your home. To avoid embarrassment when
entering benchmark contests.

Paul
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Old November 15th 14, 01:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:26:07 +0100, "Linea Recta"
wrote:

I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the notebook by
WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?


On advice, our CCTV system is hard wired (Cat5 blue cable) and gives
good results.


I would think the test you'd want to make you'd keep internal to your
own ethernet. Most routers I'm familiar with are 50~ Mps where-as the
cat-5 cable is 100Mps so on that basis I prefer to keep things wired in
house. Also has the plus it doesn't unexpectantly drop a connection etc.

I'd want to test using a third pc and setup a share with a few files of
various sizes in it. I'd then copy each to the "being tested" pcs and
see which got the file faster. Take into account things like pc-a
copying to internal sata drive where-as pc-b copying to a usb external
drive, e.g. try to keep it least similar (internal sata drive). I'm
pretty sure you'll find the wired connection considerably faster, least
that's my experience.
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Old November 15th 14, 01:54 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

En el artículo , Good Guy
escribió:

if you want to avoid any
corruption when downloading large files then always use a wired
connection.


Bull****. Go and learn how TCP/IP works.

And stop posting in HTML. Usenet is a text medium.

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Old November 15th 14, 01:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

"Linea Recta" wrote:

I was wondering wether the following is normal. I have a (windows 7)
PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem. I have a (Vista) notebook
connected to the modem by WiFi. Recently I did an internet speed test
on both and I saw that the notebook by WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?


Don't know, but... I have been pleasantly surprised by the fact Wi-Fi
consistently/reliably supports the bandwidth of my DSL connection.
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Old November 15th 14, 02:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 14 Nov 2014, Mike Tomlinson wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

And stop posting in HTML. Usenet is a text medium.


His HTML use is an intentional troll - he does it specifically to ****
people off. That should give you an idea of how little attention he
deserves.
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Old November 15th 14, 05:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Good Guy wrote:
On 14/11/2014 18:26, Linea Recta wrote:
I was wondering wether the following is normal.
I have a (windows 7) PC connected by cable to the VDSL modem.
I have a (Vista) notebook connected to the modem by WiFi.
Recently I did an internet speed test on both and I saw that the
notebook by WiFi scores faster than the PC.
Something wrong with the PC configuration?




Speed of light is still the fastest and so wired connection cannot
compete with Wi-fi in terms of speed. However, wired connection is much
more robust than the wi-fi and so if you want to avoid any corruption
when downloading large files then always use a wired connection.


Are the meds working ?

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Old November 15th 14, 06:07 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default wireless faster than wired connection??

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 23:06:45 +0000, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 14/11/2014 18:41, Good Guy wrote:

Speed of light is still the fastest and so wired connection cannot
compete with Wi-fi in terms of speed. However, wired connection is much
more robust than the wi-fi and so if you want to avoid any corruption
when downloading large files then always use a wired connection.


I can't work whether you're joking or just stupid!


My money's on the latter. Totally.

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Old November 15th 14, 09:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Tomlinson
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En el artículo , Nil
escribió:

His HTML use is an intentional troll - he does it specifically to ****
people off. That should give you an idea of how little attention he
deserves.


Ok, thanks for the heads-up. Killfiled.

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