window exploer

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro

we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months

now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is

thanks

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:25 -0500, Smiles wrote:

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro

we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months

now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is

thanks

There's almost no information in your post, so I'll say a couple of
generic things.

The new folder might be in the wrong place - it won't be sorted at
first, so if your file pane has a lot of entries it might be outside the
visible part of the pane..

Press F5 to refresh the window and then look in the correct place for
the new folder, depending on how your directory is sorted, such as
alphabetically or by time.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Smiles wrote:
good day on my sons computer Win 7pro

we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months

now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is

thanks

Well, be more careful next time :-)
(For some value of "more careful".)

*******

If System Restore is working, you could return to a point in
time, before the 110 updates happened.

*******

If you have a backup from before the 110 updates, that's
another way to get back to the original working state. If I was
facing 110 updates, I'd do a backup first. That's a few too many
updates in one clump, for "easy digestion".

*******

I do *not* recommend cavalierly waving "takeown and icacls"
at the problem, because you're likely to hit the wrong thing
and really mess it up. Nevertheless, it might be a solution
for the problem. You're not supposed to apply that to the
entire C: partition, as it would screw everything up that Windows
uses. And be hard to put back later. Applying it to a user
downloads folder would probably be OK, but still not the best of
ideas.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tims/archive...deletable.aspx

takeown /f %1 /r /d y
icacls %1 /grant administrators:F /t

(That can also be added as a right-click menu item)

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...-shortcut.html

A portion of the .reg file from one of the downloads on that page.
You can see the right-click menu item they're adding, also uses
takeown and icacls.

"[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"

That would typically be used, if connecting a "stranger data
drive" to the machine.

*******

You could try examining "accounts", and see if the folder
you're accessing, actually belongs to the same account
as the user is logged in with. There has to be some sort
of explanation as to what happened. It almost sounds like
something bad happened to the user profile or something,
and your son is no longer your son, in terms of the
account used.

I would much rather understand *why* this happened, then
rush to fix it. You really need to "root cause" the thing,
and figure out how that happened. And figure out, what
exactly has happened. Playing "whack-a-mole" with takeown,
you'll be doing that forever and a day, depending on the
root cause.

There is an example here, of creating another account and
copying the files over to the new account. That's their
solution for a corrupted profile. You can tell from what
they say not to copy, what part functions as the profile.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...#1TC=windows-7

*******

There are a few issues in modern Windows, with redefining
where certain things are stored. For example, in the past
we might move C:\Program Files to D:\Program Files. Or
perhaps C:\users\nick to D:\users\nick. When you do a
Service Pack install, the result can be a failure of the
attempt to install, and a rollback of the update. That tells
me that Microsoft isn't always ready to entertain the movement
of segments of the storage setup. So if you've been doing
something like that, it might (low probability) be a
contributing factor.

Of those 110 updates, maybe one of them was Win7 SP1 :-)

Paul

On 2014-11-14 19:53, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:25 -0500, Smiles wrote:

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro
we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months
now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is
thanks

Press F5 to refresh the window and then look in the correct place for
the new folder, depending on how your directory is sorted, such as
alphabetically or by time.

Ah yes, the Explorer Auto-Refresh issue. I have a WinXp machine that
does it, I need to press F5 to see changes to 1 partition (or only to
some folders, I forget). Yup, even New-Folder or Delete are invisible
until I press F5, and yup, only on 1 partition! I never figured it out,
I dont even know if it still does it, I dont use my Xp machine very much.

So, is this your problem? I have no solution for you but trying to
determine what your issue is more precisely...

Best Regards,

--
! _\|/_ Sylvain /
! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Foundation/EFF/Planetary-Society-+-
oO-( )-Oo "All right, evil-doer, SUCK - fthoop - sushi?" -Darkwing

Smiles wrote:

Win 7pro
just did 110 updates
now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

Reboot. That makes sure any pending updates have actually completed.
Some don't complete until a reboot because they can only get applied
early in the startup of Windows when the required files for the update
are not in use.

If that doesn't work, the problem is with a refresh (repaint of the
window for Windows Explorer). Try booting Windows into its safe mode
and retest. That will eliminate any startup programs from interferring
or altering the behavior of Windows Explorer.

On 11/14/2014 6:03 PM, Smiles wrote:
good day on my sons computer Win 7pro

we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months

now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is

thanks

Here is a list of possible solutions

http://superuser.com/questions/39003...t-auto-refresh

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:03:49 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-11-14 19:53, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:25 -0500, Smiles wrote:

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro
we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months
now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is
thanks

Press F5 to refresh the window and then look in the correct place for
the new folder, depending on how your directory is sorted, such as
alphabetically or by time.

Ah yes, the Explorer Auto-Refresh issue. I have a WinXp machine that
does it, I need to press F5 to see changes to 1 partition (or only to
some folders, I forget). Yup, even New-Folder or Delete are invisible
until I press F5, and yup, only on 1 partition! I never figured it out,
I dont even know if it still does it, I dont use my Xp machine very much.

So, is this your problem? I have no solution for you but trying to
determine what your issue is more precisely...

Best Regards,

It's not *my* problem, it's the OP's.

Well, actually it *does* happen to me, but for me it's not a problem :-)

My only problem is that when some of Explorer's foibles annoy me, I
always use the same swear words, so I'm getting bored with my rhetoric.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:03:49 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-11-14 19:53, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:25 -0500, Smiles wrote:

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro
we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months
now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is
thanks

Press F5 to refresh the window and then look in the correct place for
the new folder, depending on how your directory is sorted, such as
alphabetically or by time.

Ah yes, the Explorer Auto-Refresh issue. I have a WinXp machine that
does it, I need to press F5 to see changes to 1 partition (or only to
some folders, I forget). Yup, even New-Folder or Delete are invisible
until I press F5, and yup, only on 1 partition! I never figured it out,
I dont even know if it still does it, I dont use my Xp machine very much.

So, is this your problem? I have no solution for you but trying to
determine what your issue is more precisely...

Best Regards,

It's not *my* problem, it's the OP's.

Well, actually it *does* happen to me, but for me it's not a problem :-)

My only problem is that when some of Explorer's foibles annoy me, I
always use the same swear words, so I'm getting bored with my rhetoric.

Well Gene, if you learn Italian or German, you can use the swear words in
that language and it will sound different and not be so boring.
--
Buffalo

On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:18:47 -0700, Buffalo wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:03:49 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-11-14 19:53, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:25 -0500, Smiles wrote:

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro
we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months
now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is
thanks

Press F5 to refresh the window and then look in the correct place for
the new folder, depending on how your directory is sorted, such as
alphabetically or by time.

Ah yes, the Explorer Auto-Refresh issue. I have a WinXp machine that
does it, I need to press F5 to see changes to 1 partition (or only to
some folders, I forget). Yup, even New-Folder or Delete are invisible
until I press F5, and yup, only on 1 partition! I never figured it out,
I dont even know if it still does it, I dont use my Xp machine very much.

So, is this your problem? I have no solution for you but trying to
determine what your issue is more precisely...

Best Regards,

It's not *my* problem, it's the OP's.

Well, actually it *does* happen to me, but for me it's not a problem :-)

My only problem is that when some of Explorer's foibles annoy me, I
always use the same swear words, so I'm getting bored with my rhetoric.

Well Gene, if you learn Italian or German, you can use the swear words in
that language and it will sound different and not be so boring.

Come to think of it, a long time ago I learned a Russian phrase that was
apparently pretty bad, because no Russian speaker I knew would translate
it for me. I could use that one. BTW, someone eventually helped me to
pronounce it right, but still, no translation.

I could try Google Translate, although I'm not sure how to spell it in
Cyrillic, partly because my pronunciation is still imperfect.

Thanks for the suggestion. One of the great things about these
newsgroups is all the help one gets.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Bob I wrote:


On 11/14/2014 6:03 PM, Smiles wrote:
good day on my sons computer Win 7pro

we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months

now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is

thanks

Here is a list of possible solutions

http://superuser.com/questions/39003...t-auto-refresh
tanks will look at

BTW F5 does help thanks to all

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:18:47 -0700, Buffalo wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:03:49 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-11-14 19:53, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:03:25 -0500, Smiles wrote:

good day on my sons computer Win 7pro
we just did 110 updates it has been done for 11 months
now when he creates a new folder he must do to another drive or
folder
and back to see it

an ideas what the problem is
thanks

Press F5 to refresh the window and then look in the correct place for
the new folder, depending on how your directory is sorted, such as
alphabetically or by time.

Ah yes, the Explorer Auto-Refresh issue. I have a WinXp machine that
does it, I need to press F5 to see changes to 1 partition (or only to
some folders, I forget). Yup, even New-Folder or Delete are invisible
until I press F5, and yup, only on 1 partition! I never figured it out,
I dont even know if it still does it, I dont use my Xp machine very
much.

So, is this your problem? I have no solution for you but trying to
determine what your issue is more precisely...

Best Regards,

It's not *my* problem, it's the OP's.

Well, actually it *does* happen to me, but for me it's not a problem :-)

My only problem is that when some of Explorer's foibles annoy me, I
always use the same swear words, so I'm getting bored with my rhetoric.

Well Gene, if you learn Italian or German, you can use the swear words in
that language and it will sound different and not be so boring.

Come to think of it, a long time ago I learned a Russian phrase that was
apparently pretty bad, because no Russian speaker I knew would translate
it for me. I could use that one. BTW, someone eventually helped me to
pronounce it right, but still, no translation.

I could try Google Translate, although I'm not sure how to spell it in
Cyrillic, partly because my pronunciation is still imperfect.

Thanks for the suggestion. One of the great things about these
newsgroups is all the help one gets.

Your welcome.
--
Buffalo