System Restore Points not available

I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does anyone
know what else could cause this?

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may also need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the interim. Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

If Restore Points take to much space, the proper thing to do is to reduce
the space used in System Restore Settings.
Hopefully you are not deleting the Restore Points directly, that can cause
problems.

Many things can cause loss of Restore Points, when they are gone, they are
gone and can not be recovered or used.
Some of the things a
Available space on hard drive
Computer usage
Space you dedicate to System Restore
If you use Real Player, try doing without it for a few days:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812119
And others.
See this link for more about System Resto
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com.../faqsrwxp.mspx

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Please review your System Event Viewer log for System Restore events for
a volume error event.

How to troubleshoot the System Restore tool in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302796/EN-US/


System Restore "restore points" are missing or deleted
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301224/en-us/


System Restore Tool Displays a Blank Calendar in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313853/en-us/


regards,
ssg MS-MVP



Esmeralda wrote:

I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does anyone
know what else could cause this?

In ,
Esmeralda typed:

I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk
space


How do you do this? There's no way to do this. Your only choices
are to delete them all or all but the last one.


and now, for the past week, the system no longer creates them.
I
have left the computer on overnight and still when I open
system
restore it says "There are no system restore points available".
I
have enough disk space. Does anyone know what else could cause
this?


Probably your deleting them improbably. Turn System Restore off,
then back on, and it should work properly again. In the future
don't try to delete them yourself, without going through the
proper way to do this.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Is hard drive space an issue? If not, leave it be.

--
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com


"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the oldest ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says delete all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it hasn't fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may also need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the interim. Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Thanks. I have reviewd the system event viewer and this is what it says in
regards to system resto
Event Type: Information
Event Source: SRService
Event Category: None
Event ID: 116
Date: 2/11/2005
Time: 11:01:28 PM
User: N/A
Computer: LINA
Description:
System Restore monitoring was disabled on all drives.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.


"S.Sengupta" wrote:

Please review your System Event Viewer log for System Restore events for
a volume error event.

How to troubleshoot the System Restore tool in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302796/EN-US/


System Restore "restore points" are missing or deleted
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301224/en-us/


System Restore Tool Displays a Blank Calendar in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313853/en-us/


regards,
ssg MS-MVP



Esmeralda wrote:

I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says "There are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does anyone
know what else could cause this?

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled. Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Take ownership of the restore points? How? What folder do I have to look for
and where would it be?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled. Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:19:01 -0800, Esmeralda
wrote:

He didn't say take ownership of the "restore points". He said take
ownership of the "System Volume Information Folders".

Take ownership of the restore points? How? What folder do I have to look for
and where would it be?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled. Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Correct, details on taking ownership:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"CS" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:19:01 -0800, Esmeralda
wrote:

He didn't say take ownership of the "restore points". He said take
ownership of the "System Volume Information Folders".

Take ownership of the restore points? How? What folder do I have to look
for
and where would it be?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled.
Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says
delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it
hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it
properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore
function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may
also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the
interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space
and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left
the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space.
Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Ok Thanks. Once I restart my computer in Safe Mode, where can I find the
System Volume Information Folders?

"CS" wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:19:01 -0800, Esmeralda
wrote:

He didn't say take ownership of the "restore points". He said take
ownership of the "System Volume Information Folders".

Take ownership of the restore points? How? What folder do I have to look for
and where would it be?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled. Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space. Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Hi,

Set the system to show hidden and system folders. Go to the Control
Panel/Folder Options, and on the View tab, set the options so you can see
hidden and system files. Specifically:

Enable (check) "Display the contents of system folders"
Enable (check) "Show hidden files and folders"
Disable (uncheck): "Hide protected operating system files (recommended)"

I also recommend that you disable (uncheck) "hide extensions for known file
types". Then check the root of each volume for the System Volume Information
folder.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks. Once I restart my computer in Safe Mode, where can I find the
System Volume Information Folders?

"CS" wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:19:01 -0800, Esmeralda
wrote:

He didn't say take ownership of the "restore points". He said take
ownership of the "System Volume Information Folders".

Take ownership of the restore points? How? What folder do I have to
look for
and where would it be?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled.
Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the
oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says
delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system
restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it
hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information
folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it
properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore
function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may
also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the
interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points
are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space
and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have
left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it
says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space.
Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?

Ok I set all those options but now where do I go to find the System Volume
Information Folder? The Windows Folder?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi

Set the system to show hidden and system folders. Go to the Control
Panel/Folder Options, and on the View tab, set the options so you can see
hidden and system files. Specifically:

Enable (check) "Display the contents of system folders"
Enable (check) "Show hidden files and folders"
Disable (uncheck): "Hide protected operating system files (recommended)"

I also recommend that you disable (uncheck) "hide extensions for known file
types". Then check the root of each volume for the System Volume Information
folder.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Ok Thanks. Once I restart my computer in Safe Mode, where can I find the
System Volume Information Folders?

"CS" wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:19:01 -0800, Esmeralda
wrote:

He didn't say take ownership of the "restore points". He said take
ownership of the "System Volume Information Folders".

Take ownership of the restore points? How? What folder do I have to
look for
and where would it be?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

You need to take ownership of them while system restore is disabled.
Please
see this link on "taking ownership" of a folder:
http://rickrogers.org/fixes.htm#Taking_ownership

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the prompt response. I'm sorry I meant I deleted the
oldest
ones.
When I run disk clean up i go to the more options tabs that says
delete
all
but the most recent restore points. I have turned off system
restore,
restarted the computer and turned system restore on again but it
hasn't
fixed
the problem. How can I delete the system volume information
folders?

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

Why would you delete the most recent ones? It's the older ones that
should
be purged. Also, precisely how did you remove them? Not doing it
properly
leaves the indexes in place, and makes a mess of the restore
function.
Usually turning it off and back on will correct this, but you may
also
need
to delete the existing System Volume Information folders in the
interim.
Use
the percentage of drive space function to control how many points
are
retained.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Esmeralda" wrote in message
...
I usually delete the most recent restore points to save disk space
and
now,
for the past week, the system no longer creates them. I have
left the
computer on overnight and still when I open system restore it
says
"There
are
no system restore points available". I have enough disk space.
Does
anyone
know what else could cause this?