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On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 12:13:03 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: I tried going through the pici.ids ,.. it's hard to go through especially with my eyes. It's like reading music again. I'm trying to keep up but don't understand what you mean by 0x15? Regarding who else might be reading these from GRC InSpectre ,. just a guess but Google, Sprint and the like ? It's widely known they've become political or possibly from China? These are the results, I see that one of the yellow triangles has been eliminated. http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4dhc2.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nmj1xj.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nf07xy.jpg Ven_8086 Dev 1E31 http://i67.tinypic.com/2qkjczr.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1so9om.jpg InSpectre 406C4 ??? Thoughts/Suggestions? Thanks, Robert Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. https://www.dell.com/support/home/ca...s-8500/drivers Intel Chipset Driver Chipset_Driver_H95F7_WN_9.3.0.1021_A00.EXE Last Updated: 13 Jun 2014 File size: 9.08 MB The file inside that that does the USB3 installing is "PantUSB3.inf", not that this matters. The filename is changed by the OS to the form of "OEM23.inf", which is used to prevent collision of filenames. ******* ; ** Filename: PantUSB3.INF ; ** Abstract: Null driver for Intel(R) USB 3.0 devices ; ** Last Update: December 06, 2011 (Version 9.3.0 Build 1018) Include=machine.inf PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31.DeviceDesc="Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller - 1E31" ******* Even though it's in the Win7 folder of the Dell driver file, it appears to be a null driver, and will just move the unlabeled item into the labeled USB section. You still have to do it though, to clean up Device Manager. Chipset_Driver_H95F7_WN_9.3.0.1021_A00.EXE HTH, Paul I'm not sure what driver your referring to or how to get it? I tried this: http://i64.tinypic.com/2vxocom.jpg Should I download it? Robert |
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On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 12:33:00 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: I tried going through the pici.ids ,.. it's hard to go through especially with my eyes. It's like reading music again. I'm trying to keep up but don't understand what you mean by 0x15? Regarding who else might be reading these from GRC InSpectre ,. just a guess but Google, Sprint and the like ? It's widely known they've become political or possibly from China? These are the results, I see that one of the yellow triangles has been eliminated. http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4dhc2.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nmj1xj.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nf07xy.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/2qkjczr.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1so9om.jpg Thoughts/Suggestions? Thanks, Robert The CPU has a basic part number. The "microcode" is a patching system. Even when a CPU is brand new, it has on average "100 bugs" in it. The microcode subsystem was invented to allow "correcting" the behavior of the CPU, after you've sold some (and you're still testing the CPU in the lab!). In a project at work, a test procedure was still being run 18 months after a product ships. These include "obscure" test cases that customers will never run, but nevertheless, must be corrected by software updates. That's the basic idea of the invention of patching systems like this. ******* When your CPU and computer left the factory, the BIOS had version 0x15 of microcode stored in it. It has microcode for about eight different processor models on average. A microcode patch varies from 2KB to 16KB or so. The microcode store is part of the multicycle instruction interpreter. By changing what a CISC instruction does during interpretation, you hope to prevent hackers (using web pages) from doing stuff to the machine. Such as, stealing a credit card number you just typed into one https web page. When Spectre/Meltdown came out, this was the first time that Intel suffered "architecture bugs", instead of "instruction bugs" such as the FDIV fiasco. The patching system had never been meant for architecture bugs. The thing is, life was easy when "instruction bugs" existed, as you *always* patch those. With confidence, Microsoft could put new microcode in Windows Update, deliver it via the microcode loader in the OS, and this would fix everybody up. There were no "conditionals" involved. If Intel issued microcode, you delivered it. This changed with Spectre/Meltdown. Initially Intel delivered microcode, but some platforms experienced performance problems (boot problems perhaps). The microcode was withdrawn. If you made the mistake of taking the Dell BIOS update on that date, you might have to install an older BIOS to "re-fix" your damn computer. Here we are today, about nine exploits later, still patching these damn things. 1) Yes, you can install that Dell BIOS. Dell has tested it. There is the usual risk, with any BIOS update, of bricking the machine. My Test Machine motherboard is different. If that one is bricked, there is a USB port and a white colored push button, and I can "flash in" a new BIOS, even with no CPU in the socket. There aren't a lot of machines with such a feature. The alternative "unbricking" solution is a USB to 7 pin connector device, which would be a similar thing to what the pushbutton is doing on my computer. If you've updated the BIOS on the XPS 8500 before and there were no issues, then you could likely do it again with little worry. BIOS flashers fail when: a) Power goes off during flashing. Flashing might take five minute (don't know current number). b) For the dumbest schemes, an Internet connection failure in the middle of a flash, can cause brickage of the computer. The file should always be fully on the machine when you flash! c) Dumb ass developers mix versions of boot loaders and flash main body, and "something bad happens" when mixing certain versions. Asus used to have extensive "do this do that" things on their web page, hinting at the complexity of mixing and matching "from--to" BIOS combinations. That's about it for risks. 2) All that this BIOS update will do for you, is take the 0x15 number to 0x20 or so. It might change the Spectre protection to "Yes". It may or may not affect the latest exploit methods, which aren't even documented properly yet. Windows 10 offers slightly better options. Or so Microsoft would have us think. Without extensive test tools, it's rather hard to tell how exposed any machine is. The Gibson Research InSpectre is about as useful as the Microsoft Powershell script, except it's a bit more user friendly. Actual exploit testers aren't to be seen. The thing is, if a White Hat writes a tester that probes a machine locally, Black Hats will analyze the code and "weaponize it". To prevent aiding and assisting Black Hats, exploit testers are out of the question (at the moment). If all these things were "curable instantly", then exploit testers would have been made available. And with these architectural class bugs in CPUs, we're not in a position right now to be "giving free weapons to bad guys". Your AV cannot stop all these. Your credit card number being stolen, is not something that an AV excels at. As a result of these architecture bugs, the three platforms (ARM, Intel, AMD) have different degrees of resistance to attacks of this sort. I don't know the current status of each, to be recommending "only use your credit card on X". One of the recent problems discovered, would require you to turn off Hyperthreading at BIOS level on the 8500. Cutting the number of virtual cores in half. For many people, this is "going too far" in terms of covering off bugs. Paul I had only a basic idea of microcode and had to look it up but with the Spectre/Meltdown it's only a matter if time before my credit card number is stolen? Robert |
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I had only a basic idea of microcode and had to look it up but with the Spectre/Meltdown it's only a matter if time before my credit card number is stolen? Robert The partitioning inside the CPU isn't good enough. These particular exploits allow one web page to look at what another web page is doing. That's the basic idea. While it's not an immediate concern (you don't see mass exploits in the news), it still represents a weakness in how computers work. And different companies, have different levels of exposu ARM, AMD, and Intel. My protection here isn't bulletproof. And even with the BIOS update, yours would likely still have some holes right now. (InSpectre program doesn't have indicators for the latest problems.) I don't have a good answer for this, just as I don't have a good answer for Ransomware. I have backups to protect against Ransomware, but if something got loose in my computer room, it would be one hell of a mess. The thing is, there has to be some balance between "maintenance" and "usage" of computers. We can't put 99% of our waking hours into doing backups and huddling in fear in a corner. It will take time to plug these holes. Plenty of time. Initially, I joked with someone that six months time would be enough. Boy, was I wrong. Before you install the BIOS. 1) Try and determine what the current BIOS version is. 2) See if the BIOS tool makes a backup. In the past, a BIOS tool offered to capture the current BIOS version and put it in a file, which is better than nothing. In some cases, if the BIOS flash fails, you try and install the "old" BIOS *before rebooting the machine*. Never reboot or shut off, until you've done everything possible to ensure *some* BIOS update finished OK. 3) Consider the possibility you'd be down to one machine for a while, if it failed. The Dell flasher is likely pretty good, and better than most. After you're done, the InSpectre display might remove the "microcode update available", since you'd be "closer" to the current value. I don't know if the latest Intel microcode is ready at Dell yet. If Dell would print the Microcode values, that would be nice :-/ I hate having to analyze microcode versions with a hex editor. The Intel PIU should show 0x20 or 0x21 in place of the 0x15 seen today. HTH, Paul |
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On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 12:13:03 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I tried going through the pici.ids ,.. it's hard to go through especially with my eyes. It's like reading music again. I'm trying to keep up but don't understand what you mean by 0x15? Regarding who else might be reading these from GRC InSpectre ,. just a guess but Google, Sprint and the like ? It's widely known they've become political or possibly from China? These are the results, I see that one of the yellow triangles has been eliminated. http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4dhc2.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nmj1xj.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nf07xy.jpg Ven_8086 Dev 1E31 http://i67.tinypic.com/2qkjczr.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1so9om.jpg InSpectre 406C4 ??? Thoughts/Suggestions? Thanks, Robert Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. https://www.dell.com/support/home/ca...s-8500/drivers Intel Chipset Driver Chipset_Driver_H95F7_WN_9.3.0.1021_A00.EXE Last Updated: 13 Jun 2014 File size: 9.08 MB The file inside that that does the USB3 installing is "PantUSB3.inf", not that this matters. The filename is changed by the OS to the form of "OEM23.inf", which is used to prevent collision of filenames. ******* ; ** Filename: PantUSB3.INF ; ** Abstract: Null driver for Intel(R) USB 3.0 devices ; ** Last Update: December 06, 2011 (Version 9.3.0 Build 1018) Include=machine.inf PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31.DeviceDesc="Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller - 1E31" ******* Even though it's in the Win7 folder of the Dell driver file, it appears to be a null driver, and will just move the unlabeled item into the labeled USB section. You still have to do it though, to clean up Device Manager. Chipset_Driver_H95F7_WN_9.3.0.1021_A00.EXE HTH, Paul I'm not sure what driver your referring to or how to get it? I tried this: http://i64.tinypic.com/2vxocom.jpg Should I download it? Robert Well, yes. Looking at your picture, that's probably the item. Using the triangle "twiddler" on the left should show the details for the item. And eventually you'll get to a thing to click for the download. I downloaded it and that's why I can see "PantUSB3.inf" has your VEN/DEV in it. I basically verified there was a matching driver in it. But, the driver doesn't do much, technically. It puts a text string in Device Manager (to correct the labeling). It calls machine.inf, but I don't understand how that helps, as I thought Win7 didn't have its own XHCI in the OS (class driver for such things). Anyway, when you test a USB3 device on a USB3 port and note the transfer speed, that will tell you whether it all works or not. USB2 only does 30MB/sec, while USB3 can do at least 400MB/sec (when talking to an SSD drive). Paul |
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writes: [] Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. [] Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and _doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2 speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf .... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces. Kathy Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17 |
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Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. [] Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and _doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2 speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces. Kathy Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17 Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does this mean something else? Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and while I still can until we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We eliminated one but the other is still present. Robert Thanks, Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote: On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 12:13:03 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I tried going through the pici.ids ,.. it's hard to go through especially with my eyes. It's like reading music again. I'm trying to keep up but don't understand what you mean by 0x15? Regarding who else might be reading these from GRC InSpectre ,. just a guess but Google, Sprint and the like ? It's widely known they've become political or possibly from China? These are the results, I see that one of the yellow triangles has been eliminated. http://i65.tinypic.com/2m4dhc2.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nmj1xj.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nf07xy.jpg Ven_8086 Dev 1E31 http://i67.tinypic.com/2qkjczr.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1so9om.jpg InSpectre 406C4 ??? Thoughts/Suggestions? Thanks, Robert Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. https://www.dell.com/support/home/ca...s-8500/drivers Intel Chipset Driver Chipset_Driver_H95F7_WN_9.3.0.1021_A00.EXE Last Updated: 13 Jun 2014 File size: 9.08 MB The file inside that that does the USB3 installing is "PantUSB3.inf", not that this matters. The filename is changed by the OS to the form of "OEM23.inf", which is used to prevent collision of filenames. ******* ; ** Filename: PantUSB3.INF ; ** Abstract: Null driver for Intel(R) USB 3.0 devices ; ** Last Update: December 06, 2011 (Version 9.3.0 Build 1018) Include=machine.inf PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31.DeviceDesc="Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller - 1E31" ******* Even though it's in the Win7 folder of the Dell driver file, it appears to be a null driver, and will just move the unlabeled item into the labeled USB section. You still have to do it though, to clean up Device Manager. Chipset_Driver_H95F7_WN_9.3.0.1021_A00.EXE HTH, Paul I'm not sure what driver your referring to or how to get it? I tried this: http://i64.tinypic.com/2vxocom.jpg Should I download it? Robert Well, yes. Looking at your picture, that's probably the item. Using the triangle "twiddler" on the left should show the details for the item. And eventually you'll get to a thing to click for the download. I downloaded it and that's why I can see "PantUSB3.inf" has your VEN/DEV in it. I basically verified there was a matching driver in it. But, the driver doesn't do much, technically. It puts a text string in Device Manager (to correct the labeling). It calls machine.inf, but I don't understand how that helps, as I thought Win7 didn't have its own XHCI in the OS (class driver for such things). Anyway, when you test a USB3 device on a USB3 port and note the transfer speed, that will tell you whether it all works or not. USB2 only does 30MB/sec, while USB3 can do at least 400MB/sec (when talking to an SSD drive). Paul I downloaded it but its still present: http://i65.tinypic.com/300whsj.jpg In passing,.. I know were ultimately trying to get a key for Windows10 while I still can and this came up but in regards to Windows 10 and maybe having to upgrade what do you think of using Linux/Ubuntu,Unnex? So are we out of options in resolving this? As I told J.P. Gilliver if this concerns my USB ports, I have 3.0 and also 2.0 ports and they work OK. Robert |
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setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up. So I ran it again: http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg Robert |
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I went back and re-read how all this started when we were originally setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up. So I ran it again: http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg Avast scareware http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg Robert In the "Avast scareware" picture, read this article. AV programs are primarily for their AV coverage. The added bloat is sometimes, wildly bad. https://www.howtogeek.com/239950/don...you-less-safe/ Where it says "Hackers could hijack your DNS settings", yeah, I suppose they could, and it could also snow in July. OK, so the trigger in this case, is probably the recent "repair" of the Wifi entry in Device Manager. If you're not using that Wifi adapter, you can select "Disable" in Device Manager. Then Avast will stop scanning it and coming up with corny messages. https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=219895.0 I appreciate this scareware more, when there is a corresponding webpage where the "method" is elucidated. The "3 primary folders" thing ? Windows 10 has a feature for locking down folders that you select, which may have some merit. But there is likely to be a "Mother May I" ceremony when you go to use the folders. The closest "Exploit Guard" gets to Windows 7, is for Windows 7 Enterprise users. Basically what Exploit Guard does, is only allow certain applications you "bless", to write to selected folders. https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/13/wi...ows-7-and-8-1/ If you aren't aware of it yet, the industry is like a tree with a very flexible trunk. The wind always seems to blow in the direction that makes money. Every company uses "scareware" and not putting features in certain products, as part of the "marketing strategy". It's like shearing sheep, when if comes to security. As for your router itself, a little Googling using make model number exploit for your make and model, might give some idea whether it needs a firmware update. Paul |
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I downloaded it but its still present: http://i65.tinypic.com/300whsj.jpg In passing,.. I know were ultimately trying to get a key for Windows10 while I still can and this came up but in regards to Windows 10 and maybe having to upgrade what do you think of using Linux/Ubuntu,Unnex? So are we out of options in resolving this? As I told J.P. Gilliver if this concerns my USB ports, I have 3.0 and also 2.0 ports and they work OK. Robert Well, I indicated my concerns about Intel and the possibility this is a "cop-out" driver. And not the right driver for a Windows 7 user. I don't understand how the file uses #include machine.inf and how that's supposed to pick up an XHCI driver. Normally you'd use something like usbport.inf, on say Windows 8 or Windows 10 (which have built-in USB3). ******* When you first got the XPS 8500, did you make three or four "recovery discs" as DVDs ? One of those discs could have around 500MB of drivers. Take a look at the "Intel Chipset Driver" from that lot. My test machine has Asmedia USB3 and no Intel USB3. And there is a proper driver package for that. It's possible Asmedia uses MCCI-written drivers. I seem to remember seeing some branding in the driver files, somewhere along the way. MCCI used to write USB2 drivers too I think, at one time. But for your Intel port, we have to "catch Intel in a weak moment", where they "do the right thing". Check the first driver disk you ever burned on the 8500 and see if there is a driver for it. I still have the four discs for my Acer laptop. Sitting there, waiting for "that emergency" to come up :-) I would try and trace an INFINST for you on downloadcenter.intel.com, but I'm not confident they would show something useful on the site today. Bloody Rolex-wearing *******s :-/ (I've had personal dealings with Intel before, I hope my feelings don't betray themselves.) Paul |
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Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. [] Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and _doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2 speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces. Kathy Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17 Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does this mean something else? Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and while I still can until we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We eliminated one but the other is still present. Robert Thanks, Robert We will solve this. It's just a matter of banging on the pipes a few more times. Paul |
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Robert in CA wrote: Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. [] Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and _doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2 speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces. Kathy Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17 Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does this mean something else? Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and while I still can until we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We eliminated one but the other is still present. Robert Thanks, Robert We will solve this. It's just a matter of banging on the pipes a few more times. Paul https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html Last Reviewed 03/08/2019 Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/ "Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family" https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129 Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip 5,472,920 bytes iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver. In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and locate that x64 folder. Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\ Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it. Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the "Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder with the eight files, it will install the correct one. That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****. HTH, Paul |
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Robert in CA wrote: I went back and re-read how all this started when we were originally setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up. So I ran it again: http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg Avast scareware http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg Robert In the "Avast scareware" picture, read this article. AV programs are primarily for their AV coverage. The added bloat is sometimes, wildly bad. https://www.howtogeek.com/239950/don...you-less-safe/ Where it says "Hackers could hijack your DNS settings", yeah, I suppose they could, and it could also snow in July. OK, so the trigger in this case, is probably the recent "repair" of the Wifi entry in Device Manager. If you're not using that Wifi adapter, you can select "Disable" in Device Manager. Then Avast will stop scanning it and coming up with corny messages. https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=219895.0 I appreciate this scareware more, when there is a corresponding webpage where the "method" is elucidated. The "3 primary folders" thing ? Windows 10 has a feature for locking down folders that you select, which may have some merit. But there is likely to be a "Mother May I" ceremony when you go to use the folders. The closest "Exploit Guard" gets to Windows 7, is for Windows 7 Enterprise users. Basically what Exploit Guard does, is only allow certain applications you "bless", to write to selected folders. https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/13/wi...ows-7-and-8-1/ If you aren't aware of it yet, the industry is like a tree with a very flexible trunk. The wind always seems to blow in the direction that makes money. Every company uses "scareware" and not putting features in certain products, as part of the "marketing strategy". It's like shearing sheep, when if comes to security. As for your router itself, a little Googling using make model number exploit for your make and model, might give some idea whether it needs a firmware update. Paul A quick reply after reading the article and follow their links'to see if I'm infected. It seems I'm am with man-in-the-middle because my system says something different than Google Internet Authority or Geo Trust Global. http://i64.tinypic.com/15n8xh5.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/w86mx1.jpg Robert |
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On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. [] Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and _doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2 speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces. Kathy Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17 Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does this mean something else? Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and while I still can until we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We eliminated one but the other is still present. Robert Thanks, Robert We will solve this. It's just a matter of banging on the pipes a few more times. Paul https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html Last Reviewed 03/08/2019 Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/ "Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family" https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129 Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip 5,472,920 bytes iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver. In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and locate that x64 folder. Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\ Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it. Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the "Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder with the eight files, it will install the correct one. That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****. HTH, Paul I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500 rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW. I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB, all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and disabled the port http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it? Thanks, Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Your USB device is Intel. We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7, as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8 and Win10 would have solved this on their own. [] Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and _doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2 speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces. Kathy Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17 Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does this mean something else? Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and while I still can until we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We eliminated one but the other is still present. Robert Thanks, Robert We will solve this. It's just a matter of banging on the pipes a few more times. Paul https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html Last Reviewed 03/08/2019 Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/ "Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family" https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129 Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip 5,472,920 bytes iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver. In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and locate that x64 folder. Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\ Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it. Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the "Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder with the eight files, it will install the correct one. That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****. HTH, Paul I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500 rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW. I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB, all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and disabled the port http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it? Thanks, Robert I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes one of the discs is a separate driver disc. As for 7-zip... https://www.7-zip.org/ there are two download links under the green. The current version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the 64-bit one. Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options. Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can 7ZIP : Open Archive as an example. You can select a particular folder and click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask where you want to store the folder, and the default location would be next to where the EXE file is stored. The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but who knows where it would be put. For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff". The program does not handle every format - it doesn't have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty good. Paul |
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