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  #1  
Old March 10th 14, 11:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default How big is Windows 7?

I'm thinking of having a new system built. If I do, I'd like to have my C drive
be a solid state drive, which of course will hold my Windows 7 operating system
(I have no interest in Windows 8). My question is how big is Windows 7 so I know
how big a solid state drive to go with? Thanks.
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Old March 11th 14, 12:30 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 3/10/2014 4:46 PM, charlie wrote:
On 3/10/2014 7:26 PM, wrote:
I'm thinking of having a new system built. If I do, I'd like to have my C drive
be a solid state drive, which of course will hold my Windows 7 operating system
(I have no interest in Windows 8). My question is how big is Windows 7 so I know
how big a solid state drive to go with? Thanks.

It depends G
Anyway, I'd suggest a drive big enough that at least half is free after
the windows install. ~240G is what I usually use.
128G will usually work, if everything else is, well, elsewhere!

There were some Netbooks (win XP & 7) that came with an 80G SSD. That
was OK until more apps were added.

Really, when setup properly, Win 8.1 is decent, and has "some'
advantages. (And, sadly, a few disadvantages.)


I have a 102 GB SSD on which I have both Windows 7 and all installed
software. Over 56 GB is still unused (slightly over half).

My data is on a separate 909 GB "spinning" hard drive, over two-thirds
of which is still unused.

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Old March 11th 14, 12:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default How big is Windows 7?

wrote in message
...
| I'm thinking of having a new system built. If I do, I'd like to have my C
drive
| be a solid state drive, which of course will hold my Windows 7 operating
system
| (I have no interest in Windows 8). My question is how big is Windows 7 so
I know
| how big a solid state drive to go with? Thanks.

It's likely to be 7-9 GB on install, but it keeps
growing. Win98 base install was about 700 MB.
XP is about 1 GB. Vista/7 forces you to install
the entire DVD to the winsxs folder. If you
delete any of it you may destabilize the system.
As things get installed winsxs grows. It's supposed
to clean out what's not needed, but it doesn't
work that way. It can grow to 40, 60 or more
GB. (If you do a search you can find discussion
about that.)

I usually allow 3-4 GB for XP and then set up the
rest as data partitions. With Vista/7 you should
probably figure on at least 20 GB for C drive. I
don't know whether a smaller C drive might help
reduce bloat by causing the OS to store less. If
it were me I'd make a disk image after setup and
then figure on refreshing the mess periodically. If
you're lucky you might just fit a lean disk image onto
a DVD.
(I have two Win7 systems here but I haven't used
either one enough to see how fast and far the bloat
will build up.)


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Old March 11th 14, 12:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
philo [_3_]
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 03/10/2014 07:32 PM, Mayayana wrote:
wrote in message
...
| I'm thinking of having a new system built. If I do, I'd like to have my C
drive
| be a solid state drive, which of course will hold my Windows 7 operating
system
| (I have no interest in Windows 8). My question is how big is Windows 7 so
I know
| how big a solid state drive to go with? Thanks.

It's likely to be 7-9 GB on install, but it keeps
growing. Win98 base install was about 700 MB.
XP is about 1 GB. Vista/7 forces you to install
the entire DVD to the winsxs folder. If you
delete any of it you may destabilize the system.
As things get installed winsxs grows. It's supposed
to clean out what's not needed, but it doesn't
work that way. It can grow to 40, 60 or more
GB. (If you do a search you can find discussion
about that.)

I usually allow 3-4 GB for XP and then set up the
rest as data partitions. With Vista/7 you should
probably figure on at least 20 GB for C drive. I
don't know whether a smaller C drive might help
reduce bloat by causing the OS to store less.



snip


That's an absurd idea and 20 gigs would not be enough for Win7

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Old March 11th 14, 01:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 3/10/2014 5:32 PM, Mayayana wrote:
wrote in message
...
| I'm thinking of having a new system built. If I do, I'd like to have my C
drive
| be a solid state drive, which of course will hold my Windows 7 operating
system
| (I have no interest in Windows 8). My question is how big is Windows 7 so
I know
| how big a solid state drive to go with? Thanks.

It's likely to be 7-9 GB on install, but it keeps
growing. Win98 base install was about 700 MB.
XP is about 1 GB. Vista/7 forces you to install
the entire DVD to the winsxs folder. If you
delete any of it you may destabilize the system.
As things get installed winsxs grows. It's supposed
to clean out what's not needed, but it doesn't
work that way. It can grow to 40, 60 or more
GB. (If you do a search you can find discussion
about that.)

I usually allow 3-4 GB for XP and then set up the
rest as data partitions. With Vista/7 you should
probably figure on at least 20 GB for C drive. I
don't know whether a smaller C drive might help
reduce bloat by causing the OS to store less. If
it were me I'd make a disk image after setup and
then figure on refreshing the mess periodically. If
you're lucky you might just fit a lean disk image onto
a DVD.
(I have two Win7 systems here but I haven't used
either one enough to see how fast and far the bloat
will build up.)



Do not forget to calculate in the disk space needed for
pagefile.sys (and hiberfil.sys). Each file size could equal
the amount of installed RAM.

GR


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Old March 11th 14, 02:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default How big is Windows 7?

| Do not forget to calculate in the disk space needed for
| pagefile.sys (and hiberfil.sys). Each file size could equal
| the amount of installed RAM.
|

I guess that's a good point, though personally
I don't enable hibernating and always put the
page file on another partition as a set size, to
reduce fragmentation.


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Old March 11th 14, 12:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 3/10/2014 8:31 PM, Ghostrider 00 wrote:
Do not forget to calculate in the disk space needed for
pagefile.sys (and hiberfil.sys). Each file size could equal
the amount of installed RAM.


True if you use them. Since the amount of writes you perform (and/or the
OS) on the SSD reduces the longevity of the drive. And both files does
quite a bit of writing, one could turn off hibernation and the pagefile.
Thus those two files disappear. I have done this with my Asus EeePCs
with 4GB and 8GB SSD. Although I haven't done it on my Dell Latitude STs
with 128GB SSD. I don't even use half of the space on these.

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Old March 11th 14, 12:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 3/10/2014 7:37 PM, philo wrote:
On 03/10/2014 07:32 PM, Mayayana wrote:
wrote in message
...
| I'm thinking of having a new system built. If I do, I'd like to have
my C
drive
| be a solid state drive, which of course will hold my Windows 7
operating
system
| (I have no interest in Windows 8). My question is how big is Windows
7 so
I know
| how big a solid state drive to go with? Thanks.

It's likely to be 7-9 GB on install, but it keeps
growing. Win98 base install was about 700 MB.
XP is about 1 GB. Vista/7 forces you to install
the entire DVD to the winsxs folder. If you
delete any of it you may destabilize the system.
As things get installed winsxs grows. It's supposed
to clean out what's not needed, but it doesn't
work that way. It can grow to 40, 60 or more
GB. (If you do a search you can find discussion
about that.)

I usually allow 3-4 GB for XP and then set up the
rest as data partitions. With Vista/7 you should
probably figure on at least 20 GB for C drive. I
don't know whether a smaller C drive might help
reduce bloat by causing the OS to store less.



snip


That's an absurd idea and 20 gigs would not be enough for Win7


Back in 2009, SSDs were still really expensive. And the minimum
requirement for Windows 7 was 16GB. So I purchased a 16GB SSD and
installed Windows 7 on it. After the install and Windows 7 cleans up all
of the temp files it used to install, it dropped down to using 8GB of it.

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Old March 11th 14, 01:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
philo [_3_]
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 03/11/2014 07:15 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 3

I usually allow 3-4 GB for XP and then set up the
rest as data partitions. With Vista/7 you should
probably figure on at least 20 GB for C drive. I
don't know whether a smaller C drive might help
reduce bloat by causing the OS to store less.



snip


That's an absurd idea and 20 gigs would not be enough for Win7


Back in 2009, SSDs were still really expensive. And the minimum
requirement for Windows 7 was 16GB. So I purchased a 16GB SSD and
installed Windows 7 on it. After the install and Windows 7 cleans up all
of the temp files it used to install, it dropped down to using 8GB of it.




The only SSD I have is one of those mini's.

It performs terribly.
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Old March 11th 14, 02:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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Default How big is Windows 7?

On 3/11/2014 8:36 AM, philo wrote:
On 03/11/2014 07:15 AM, BillW50 wrote:
On 3

I usually allow 3-4 GB for XP and then set up the
rest as data partitions. With Vista/7 you should
probably figure on at least 20 GB for C drive. I
don't know whether a smaller C drive might help
reduce bloat by causing the OS to store less.

snip

That's an absurd idea and 20 gigs would not be enough for Win7


Back in 2009, SSDs were still really expensive. And the minimum
requirement for Windows 7 was 16GB. So I purchased a 16GB SSD and
installed Windows 7 on it. After the install and Windows 7 cleans up all
of the temp files it used to install, it dropped down to using 8GB of it.


The only SSD I have is one of those mini's.

It performs terribly.


Yes those are pretty slow. Although my other Samsung PM830 mSATA SSDs
can operate at the industry´s highest sequential read and write speeds
of 500MB/s and of 260MB/s respectively, under optimum conditions. Maybe
they have faster ones today as these are just over a year old.

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