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  #1  
Old October 25th 15, 06:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Farmer
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I been trying to download Macrium Reflect free I goggled the web site
and clicked on the download now button Malwarebyte stops the download.
If I disable malwarebytes and let it download I get some program call
slimware cleaner and driveupdater that is full of mail ware
.. Please someone supply me a clean link to Macrium Reflect Free.
Thanks Farmer
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  #2  
Old October 25th 15, 07:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Farmer wrote:

I been trying to download Macrium Reflect free I goggled the web site


And at WHICH web site did you land to find a download of Reflect?

Please someone supply me a clean link to Macrium Reflect Free.


Have you tried Macrium's own web site?

Do you actually read the installer screens while doing a custom install
so you can opt out of any bundleware?
  #3  
Old October 25th 15, 10:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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FredW wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:58:33 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-10-25 13:45, Farmer wrote:
I been trying to download Macrium Reflect free I goggled the web site
and clicked on the download now button Malwarebyte stops the download.
If I disable malwarebytes and let it download I get some program call
slimware cleaner and driveupdater that is full of mail ware
. Please someone supply me a clean link to Macrium Reflect Free.
Thanks Farmer

It would be helpful to post the website that offered that messed-up file(s).

This is Macrium's own site:

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

HTH



The download from that site refers to CNet.com
CNet.com has become an unreliable download site.


There are two kinds of downloads on CNET.

When the software developer doesn't pay CNET, CNET
wraps their product in adware.

When the software developer pays for the distribution
of the software, CNET does not molest the software.
The reason for using CNET, is "exposure", and "has
a CDN" or content distribution network. The CNET site
will always have enough download bandwidth.

The ReflectDL download has been clean, each time
I have downloaded it from there. The file size
has been consistent through the year 2015 (so far),
so it's not like there was a "sneak attack yesterday".

*******

And getting software directly from the developer site,
isn't always "clean". At least one company offering
"free" backup software on their site, has OpenCandy in it.
And what's strange about that, is they have two products,
of about equal download size, and yet one has adware
and the other product does not. And for some reason,
the OpenCandy software could not connect to its server,
so I have no idea what they were thinking.

So while everyone here would recommend going to the
source, there are cases where the developer is
already using adware (or attempting to).

*******

These are the file sizes I have.

ReflectDL 2013 2237KB (for Macrium Version 5)
reflectDL 2014 2238KB (for Macrium Version 5)
ReflectDL March 2015 3455KB (may correspond to Macrium Version 6)
ReflectDL October 2015 3463KB (may correspond to Macrium Version 6)

The ReflectDL is a stub loader, which in turn downloads
a 40MB main installer for Reflect Free, as well as a
150MB WinPE5 package for making a WinPE boot disc. Those
are rough estimates of the file size, for download
time estimation.

Paul
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Old October 26th 15, 11:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:28:26 -0400, Paul wrote:

There are two kinds of downloads on CNET.

When the software developer doesn't pay CNET, CNET
wraps their product in adware.

When the software developer pays for the distribution
of the software, CNET does not molest the software.
The reason for using CNET, is "exposure", and "has
a CDN" or content distribution network. The CNET site
will always have enough download bandwidth.

The ReflectDL download has been clean, each time
I have downloaded it from there. The file size
has been consistent through the year 2015 (so far),
so it's not like there was a "sneak attack yesterday".

*******

And getting software directly from the developer site,
isn't always "clean". At least one company offering
"free" backup software on their site, has OpenCandy in it.
And what's strange about that, is they have two products,
of about equal download size, and yet one has adware
and the other product does not. And for some reason,
the OpenCandy software could not connect to its server,
so I have no idea what they were thinking.

So while everyone here would recommend going to the
source, there are cases where the developer is
already using adware (or attempting to).

*******

These are the file sizes I have.

ReflectDL 2013 2237KB (for Macrium Version 5)
reflectDL 2014 2238KB (for Macrium Version 5)
ReflectDL March 2015 3455KB (may correspond to Macrium Version 6)
ReflectDL October 2015 3463KB (may correspond to Macrium Version 6)

The ReflectDL is a stub loader, which in turn downloads
a 40MB main installer for Reflect Free, as well as a
150MB WinPE5 package for making a WinPE boot disc. Those
are rough estimates of the file size, for download
time estimation.


Thanks very much for this, Paul. There is no substitute for actual
experience from someone who has been through it.

Like others, I'm very leery of downloading anything from CNet,
because they've really debased their brand. I suspect they may find,
over time, that fewer and fewer software makers are willing to
download through them. But for now, it's good to know that this
download will be okay.

I *hate* stub loaders, and always try to download the full installer
myself. Then if I ever need to reinstall that exact version, I can do
it.


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Old October 26th 15, 01:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Big Al[_5_]
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VanguardLH wrote on 10/25/2015 2:37 PM:
Farmer wrote:

I been trying to download Macrium Reflect free I goggled the web site


And at WHICH web site did you land to find a download of Reflect?

Please someone supply me a clean link to Macrium Reflect Free.


Have you tried Macrium's own web site?

Do you actually read the installer screens while doing a custom install
so you can opt out of any bundleware?

I wonder if it was one of those ads placed right next to the product name that says 'download' but it means to download
the advertised garbage and not Macrium? I find a ton of sites that place clever buttons on their pages. Drives me
crazy trying to wade through the maze, but you have to if you go to Cnet etc.

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Old October 26th 15, 05:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Big Al wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Farmer wrote:

I been trying to download Macrium Reflect free I goggled the web site


And at WHICH web site did you land to find a download of Reflect?


I wonder if it was one of those ads placed right next to the product
name that says 'download' but it means to download the advertised
garbage and not Macrium? I find a ton of sites that place clever
buttons on their pages. Drives me crazy trying to wade through the
maze, but you have to if you go to Cnet etc.


Softpedia.com (until I used adblocking) used to show anywhere up to 4
"Download" links as buttons. Only 1 was for the download from
Softpedia. The others were in ads displayed in Softpedia's web page.
With ad-blocking, the bogus download links disappeared because the ads
with them disappeared. They changed their page layout and eliminated
that confusion. Most sites may have policies regarding ad content
delivered from elsewhere but rarely enforce them. They may neuter them,
like stripping script code, but the content they don't monitor.

Also, the file retrieved may not be from the site where you visit a web
page showing a download link. Hovering over the download link might
show from where it originates; however, if the site is using scripts to
find the file then you won't see the target file. With Firefox, it will
alert me if a page attempts to redirect me to another site (alas,
Mozilla has never been educated into telling users to WHERE the
redirection points). In Firefox and in the initial download dialog, it
tells from where the file is getting retrieved. The popup in IE for the
initial download dialog also tells the site from which the file will get
retrieved. If Firefox and IE tell the user where is the target file
then I suspect so does Google Chrome. Going to one site but having the
download come from elsewhere flags me to be alert and question if I want
that download.
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Old October 26th 15, 05:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Cy Burnot
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Majorgeeks has a link:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html

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Old October 26th 15, 06:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Cy Burnot wrote:

Majorgeeks has a link:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html


Except, like many authors that have both a payware and freeware version
of their software, they may host the free version somewhere OTHER than
their own site. In this case, Macrium hosts their free version at Cnet
(download.com). It is available for download from many sites but
Macrium has their download link point at Cnet. Notice their green
"Download Now" button also notes the download comes from Download.com.

As a result, when you click on Macrium's download button for their free
version, you are redirected to a download.com page. Because CNet
sometimes wraps a program with their own bundleware installer, I tend
not to get downloads from CNet. Instead I go to Softpedia.com which, in
the past (not now), you had to be careful on which "Download" button you
clicked.

Majorgeeks is another download site. They show 3 download links for
Macrium Reflect Free. One is direct from Macrium's site. The other 2
are copies hosted at MajorGeeks. I usually trust MajorGeeks but it is
not as commonly known as other download sites, plus the link at
Macrium's site takes you to CNet. Besides the site you visit being
trusted, you still have to watch from WHERE a file gets downloaded.
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Old October 26th 15, 07:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
s|b
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On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:47:48 +0100, FredW wrote:

So in the end you never know whether your download from CNet.com
is wrapped in candyware or not and what kind of sticky candyware.

This makes CNet.com an unreliable download site for me.
Your long story does not change that.


I've been using reflectdl.exe for a while now. I think I downloaded it
he http://filehippo.com/download_macrium_reflect/tech/

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