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AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!



 
 
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Old February 3rd 17, 01:56 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!

It was stated that Microsoft won't support either Intel Kaby Lake or AMD
Ryzen under anything but Windows 10. Well, some cracks in that wall have
appeared, as AMD will make drivers available for Ryzen under Windows 7.
Now, I guess you could say that Microsoft still doesn't support it, but
AMD seems to be doing so.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-windows-7-drivers

Yousuf Khan
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Old February 3rd 17, 09:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!

Yousuf Khan wrote:
It was stated that Microsoft won't support either Intel Kaby Lake or AMD
Ryzen under anything but Windows 10. Well, some cracks in that wall have
appeared, as AMD will make drivers available for Ryzen under Windows 7.
Now, I guess you could say that Microsoft still doesn't support it, but
AMD seems to be doing so.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-windows-7-drivers

Yousuf Khan


I think Microsoft made an announcement too, a while back.

"I love it when a plan comes together." [A-Team]

Paul
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Old February 3rd 17, 02:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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Default AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!

"Paul" wrote

| I think Microsoft made an announcement too, a while back.
|
Not according to that link. "Microsoft have previously
stated they will only be supporting AMD's next-gen CPUs via Windows 10"

MS have been very close buddies with Intel
for a long time. (The Vista fiasco over the PCs
with no Aero was due to a favor to Intel that
alienated OEMs and customers alike.) I'm guessing
the Microsofties are none too happy that gamers
can build new rigs with Win7.


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Old February 3rd 17, 06:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!

Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote

| I think Microsoft made an announcement too, a while back.
|
Not according to that link. "Microsoft have previously
stated they will only be supporting AMD's next-gen CPUs via Windows 10"

MS have been very close buddies with Intel
for a long time. (The Vista fiasco over the PCs
with no Aero was due to a favor to Intel that
alienated OEMs and customers alike.) I'm guessing
the Microsofties are none too happy that gamers
can build new rigs with Win7.


I think I'm confusing the "Skylake support to mid-2017"
announcement, with these other ones.

*******

http://hothardware.com/news/microsof...y-lake-and-zen

“Windows 7 was designed nearly 10 years ago before
any x86/x64 SOCs existed. For Windows 7 to run on
any modern silicon, device drivers and firmware
need to emulate Windows 7’s expectations for
interrupt processing, bus support, and power
states - which is challenging for WiFi, graphics,
security, and more."

That makes it sound like hardware developers go out
of their way to break stuff ? Think how long the
marketing guy had to sit at his desk, and write
up that "plum" :-) Musta taken all week.

"Technology is hard" - Said the marketeer who
didn't know how it worked

I was able to boot Win98 on a Core2 motherboard. A board
with PCI Express on it. Now was that an accident ?
Or good hardware design ? Win98 doesn't know what
PCI Express bus is, but because the bus "appears" to be
a PCI bus, the system comes up.

These articles they write, are pretty disingenuous.
Hardware guys actually work damn hard, to make
stuff work on older OSes. The mess would be unbelievable,
if they weren't doing that. There would be nothing but
continuous moaning and groaning in the newsgroups, if
it were not so.

The Zen (Ryzen) architecture is "conventional" on SMT.
I don't see why this is going to be a big deal. As for
AMD providing drivers, you'll remember AMD had to do
that for Cool N' Quiet too. There is a history of
AMD having to provide a shim for stuff. If AMD can do
this, it tells you the architecture (around the edges)
looks pretty conventional to the software.

For $150 million dollars, you can get Microsoft to do
almost anything. Some of these announcements read like
"well, I'm not giving you wodges of cash for this,
**** off". And that's why you see an MS announcement,
an AMD announcement, an Intel announcement, all seeming
to pull in different directions. There is a shortage
of wodges of cash in the picture, to "smooth" things over.

Paul
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Old February 3rd 17, 08:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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Default AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
that for Cool N' Quiet too. There is a history of
AMD having to provide a shim for stuff. If AMD can do

[]
The earliest one I remember was a patch (I think it was just a file
replacement) for Windows 95 that stopped the (then!) latest AMD
processors, which were capable of higher clock speeds, crashing in
Windows if you set the clock faster than the low 300s MHz. (It varied a
little with temperature and other parameters.) The processors were
capable of faster - e. g. 350 or 400 MHz (rated, not overclocking or
anything), and were fine in e. g. DOS.

Windows 98 did not have the problem (i. e. would run on AMD processors
at any clock speed they could run at), so presumably M$ had "fixed"
whatever it was.
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Old February 3rd 17, 09:49 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default AMD Ryzen will be supported under Windows 7!

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
[]
that for Cool N' Quiet too. There is a history of
AMD having to provide a shim for stuff. If AMD can do

[]
The earliest one I remember was a patch (I think it was just a file
replacement) for Windows 95 that stopped the (then!) latest AMD
processors, which were capable of higher clock speeds, crashing in
Windows if you set the clock faster than the low 300s MHz. (It varied a
little with temperature and other parameters.) The processors were
capable of faster - e. g. 350 or 400 MHz (rated, not overclocking or
anything), and were fine in e. g. DOS.

Windows 98 did not have the problem (i. e. would run on AMD processors
at any clock speed they could run at), so presumably M$ had "fixed"
whatever it was.


Yeah, I've never run into that bug. I guess that's what I get for
not having Win95 here.

When I installed Win98 on the Core2, I stopped the install
at the first reboot, and fixed the "too much RAM" problem.
As otherwise, it wouldn't have come up on the first reboot.
I didn't really want to be pulling sticks of RAM out
of it all the time. So it was easier to set it up to "co-exist".

Paul
 




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