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Old November 23rd 11, 03:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to
reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even with old
and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated Windows
(32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.
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Old November 23rd 11, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

Ant wrote:
Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to
reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even with old
and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated Windows
(32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.


Back on AC97 drivers, the RealTek driver was sometimes used as a replacement
for other brands of drivers. If you force installed it, it gave you two channel
sound (presumably as that was standardized enough to work).

On HDAudio drivers, I've never heard or seen driver hacking going on.

Better to face the problem, head on. Like, new sound card :-) If a
new sound card also turns flaky on you, it could be a registry problem,
or maybe you have bad RAM and everything in your computer suffers problems ?

Paul
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Old November 23rd 11, 06:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?


"Ant" wrote in message ...
Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek
onboard audio even with old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3
and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.


I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS, and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot.
Then reboot into BIOS, re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You may have
an install problem, pointing to HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's probably already
there. Once that's taken care of, the installation goes pretty smoothly.

That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has always been flaky for me, no matter who made the
audio chip. It would be set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put it back to 5.1 and it
would stay there for a while, but as soon as I opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the audio
driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would have to manually change them. I had a couple of Creative
Labs external USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card
and am very happy with it. I get great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work right out of the
box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872

I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the
route I took :-)
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Old November 23rd 11, 08:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

On 11/23/2011 8:06 AM PT, Paul typed:

Ant wrote:
Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy
to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even with
old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated
Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.


Back on AC97 drivers, the RealTek driver was sometimes used as a
replacement
for other brands of drivers. If you force installed it, it gave you two
channel
sound (presumably as that was standardized enough to work).

On HDAudio drivers, I've never heard or seen driver hacking going on.

Better to face the problem, head on. Like, new sound card :-) If a
new sound card also turns flaky on you, it could be a registry problem,
or maybe you have bad RAM and everything in your computer suffers
problems ?


Memtest86 and its Plus versions did not find anything wrong with my RAM.
Hmm, so only RealTek and OEM drivers for the HD Audio onboard.
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Old November 23rd 11, 08:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

On 11/23/2011 9:49 AM PT, SC Tom typed:

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even with
old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated
Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a


I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS,
and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot. Then reboot into BIOS,
re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest
RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You may have an install problem, pointing to
HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's
probably already there. Once that's taken care of, the installation goes
pretty smoothly.


Interesting. I used to have an Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS sound card so I
uninstalled its driver, turned off PC, removed its sound card and swap
hardwares, rebooted, deleted left overs, installed the latest RealTek
drivers, rebooted, tested fine, etc. However, once in a while, my
computer would lock up hard with a stuck audio.


That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has
always been flaky for me, no matter who made the audio chip. It would be
set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put
it back to 5.1 and it would stay there for a while, but as soon as I
opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the
audio driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would
have to manually change them. I had a couple of Creative Labs external
USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally
bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card and am very happy with it. I get
great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work
right out of the box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872


I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring
getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the route I took :-)


Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?
FYI, I only have 2.1 sound system. I do love bass though. I did notice
these onboard have crappy bass from my subwoofer compared to my Creative
Audigy 2 ZS sound card (old PCI -- don't have those slots).
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Old November 23rd 11, 10:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Ant" wrote in message
...
Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to
reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even with old
and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated Windows
(32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.


I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS,
and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot. Then reboot into BIOS,
re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest RealTek/AC'97
drivers. You may have an install problem, pointing to HDDAUD.SYS or some
such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's probably already there.
Once that's taken care of, the installation goes pretty smoothly.

That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has
always been flaky for me, no matter who made the audio chip. It would be
set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put
it back to 5.1 and it would stay there for a while, but as soon as I
opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the audio
driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would have to
manually change them. I had a couple of Creative Labs external USB cards
that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally bought a
Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card and am very happy with it. I get great surround
sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work right out of the
box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872

I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring
getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the route I took :-)
--
SC Tom



I concur. Onboard sound has always been lacking even on my current 7.1
system. Could not get it to work properly and the driver config program
didn't seem to offer much of anything (actually didn't seem to even have
one). Put in my old AOpen Cobra 850 and viola 5.1 back with both mic and
line inputs also working as expected (under Vista, no driver for 7 )

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Old November 23rd 11, 10:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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"Ant" wrote in message ...
On 11/23/2011 9:49 AM PT, SC Tom typed:

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to reproduce) problems with my current
RealTek onboard audio even with
old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated
Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a


I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS,
and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot. Then reboot into BIOS,
re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest
RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You may have an install problem, pointing to
HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's
probably already there. Once that's taken care of, the installation goes
pretty smoothly.


Interesting. I used to have an Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS sound card so I uninstalled its driver, turned off PC, removed
its sound card and swap hardwares, rebooted, deleted left overs, installed the latest RealTek drivers, rebooted,
tested fine, etc. However, once in a while, my computer would lock up hard with a stuck audio.


That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has
always been flaky for me, no matter who made the audio chip. It would be
set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put
it back to 5.1 and it would stay there for a while, but as soon as I
opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the
audio driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would
have to manually change them. I had a couple of Creative Labs external
USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally
bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card and am very happy with it. I get
great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work
right out of the box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872


I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring
getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the route I took :-)


Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying? FYI, I only have 2.1 sound system. I do love bass
though. I did notice these onboard have crappy bass from my subwoofer compared to my Creative Audigy 2 ZS sound card
(old PCI -- don't have those slots).


No , it's not slow or annoying. It produces sound before I can actually do anything on the system, so it's ready before
Windows is, IYKWIM. I don't know what would make it annoying (?).

I have a 4.1 Cambridge FPS2000 speaker system connected to it, and the bass can be heard easily outside if I crank it up
that loud. At times, I have to compete with some of the cars driving by, and it has no problem doing that :-) The Zalman
control panel allows a lot of different setups, up to and including 7.1 Digital Speaker Shifter (don't know what it is,
but it sounds good). I'm happy with it, much happier than I was with the onboard sound through the same speaker system.
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Old November 23rd 11, 10:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

On 11/23/2011 1:22 PM PT, SC Tom typed:


"Ant" wrote in message
...
On 11/23/2011 9:49 AM PT, SC Tom typed:

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy
to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even
with
old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated
Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS,
and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot. Then reboot into BIOS,
re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest
RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You may have an install problem, pointing to
HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's
probably already there. Once that's taken care of, the installation goes
pretty smoothly.


Interesting. I used to have an Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS sound card so I
uninstalled its driver, turned off PC, removed its sound card and swap
hardwares, rebooted, deleted left overs, installed the latest RealTek
drivers, rebooted, tested fine, etc. However, once in a while, my
computer would lock up hard with a stuck audio.


That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has
always been flaky for me, no matter who made the audio chip. It would be
set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put
it back to 5.1 and it would stay there for a while, but as soon as I
opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the
audio driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would
have to manually change them. I had a couple of Creative Labs external
USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally
bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card and am very happy with it. I get
great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work
right out of the box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860



http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872



I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring
getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the route I took :-)


Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?
FYI, I only have 2.1 sound system. I do love bass though. I did notice
these onboard have crappy bass from my subwoofer compared to my
Creative Audigy 2 ZS sound card (old PCI -- don't have those slots).


No , it's not slow or annoying. It produces sound before I can actually
do anything on the system, so it's ready before Windows is, IYKWIM. I
don't know what would make it annoying (?).


USB = slow. No latencies? I assume it still uses analog connections for
speakers, headphones, etc.? Is it fully compatible in games and other
OSes like Linux (do pass my older boxes for other OSes)?


I have a 4.1 Cambridge FPS2000 speaker system connected to it, and the
bass can be heard easily outside if I crank it up that loud. At times, I
have to compete with some of the cars driving by, and it has no problem
doing that :-) The Zalman control panel allows a lot of different
setups, up to and including 7.1 Digital Speaker Shifter (don't know what
it is, but it sounds good). I'm happy with it, much happier than I was
with the onboard sound through the same speaker system.


Interesting. Does it do EAX for older games?
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Old November 23rd 11, 11:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Ant écrivait news:gLWdne4F4N2T2lDTnZ2dnUVZ_o-
:

snip

Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?


snip

Many musicians and pro/semi-pro recording studios use USB sound devices,
for example:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...=USBinterfaces
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Old November 24th 11, 12:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

On 11/23/2011 2:07 PM PT, Dominique typed:

Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?


snip

Many musicians and pro/semi-pro recording studios use USB sound devices,
for example:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...=USBinterfaces


Interesting. Wouldn't there be latencies and stuff? USB isn't that fast.
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Old November 24th 11, 12:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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"Ant" wrote in message ...
On 11/23/2011 1:22 PM PT, SC Tom typed:


"Ant" wrote in message
...
On 11/23/2011 9:49 AM PT, SC Tom typed:

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy
to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even
with
old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated
Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS,
and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot. Then reboot into BIOS,
re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest
RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You may have an install problem, pointing to
HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's
probably already there. Once that's taken care of, the installation goes
pretty smoothly.

Interesting. I used to have an Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS sound card so I
uninstalled its driver, turned off PC, removed its sound card and swap
hardwares, rebooted, deleted left overs, installed the latest RealTek
drivers, rebooted, tested fine, etc. However, once in a while, my
computer would lock up hard with a stuck audio.


That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has
always been flaky for me, no matter who made the audio chip. It would be
set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put
it back to 5.1 and it would stay there for a while, but as soon as I
opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the
audio driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would
have to manually change them. I had a couple of Creative Labs external
USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally
bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card and am very happy with it. I get
great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work
right out of the box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860



http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872



I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring
getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the route I took :-)

Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?
FYI, I only have 2.1 sound system. I do love bass though. I did notice
these onboard have crappy bass from my subwoofer compared to my
Creative Audigy 2 ZS sound card (old PCI -- don't have those slots).


No , it's not slow or annoying. It produces sound before I can actually
do anything on the system, so it's ready before Windows is, IYKWIM. I
don't know what would make it annoying (?).


USB = slow. No latencies? I assume it still uses analog connections for speakers, headphones, etc.? Is it fully
compatible in games and other OSes like Linux (do pass my older boxes for other OSes)?


I have a 4.1 Cambridge FPS2000 speaker system connected to it, and the
bass can be heard easily outside if I crank it up that loud. At times, I
have to compete with some of the cars driving by, and it has no problem
doing that :-) The Zalman control panel allows a lot of different
setups, up to and including 7.1 Digital Speaker Shifter (don't know what
it is, but it sounds good). I'm happy with it, much happier than I was
with the onboard sound through the same speaker system.


Interesting. Does it do EAX for older games?


There is no latency that I can detect. I have a couple of tennis games, and the racquet hits and bounces are synced
well. I've run games like Timeshock! (pinball game employing EAX), Far Cry, Bioshock, and the Call of Duty series
through MW2 with no slowness, latency or un-syncs.

I have it set up for analog output, but it also has an optical connection. My speaker system doesn't do optical, so I
haven't tested it.
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Old November 24th 11, 01:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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"pjp" wrote in message ...
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Ant" wrote in message ...
Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek
onboard audio even with old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3
and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.


I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into BIOS, and disabling the onboard audio. Save and
boot. Then reboot into BIOS, re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You
may have an install problem, pointing to HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's
probably already there. Once that's taken care of, the installation goes pretty smoothly.

That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has always been flaky for me, no matter who made the
audio chip. It would be set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or 2.1. Put it back to 5.1 and
it would stay there for a while, but as soon as I opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows (or the
audio driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and I would have to manually change them. I had a couple of
Creative Labs external USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much. I finally bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC
V2 USB card and am very happy with it. I get great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting it to work
right out of the box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872

I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but barring getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's
the route I took :-)
--
SC Tom



I concur. Onboard sound has always been lacking even on my current 7.1 system. Could not get it to work properly and
the driver config program didn't seem to offer much of anything (actually didn't seem to even have one). Put in my old
AOpen Cobra 850 and viola 5.1 back with both mic and line inputs also working as expected (under Vista, no driver for
7 )


Have you tried to install the Vista drivers on Win7 in compatibility mode? Always a chance it'll work then :-) No
guarantees, but you never know.
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Old November 24th 11, 01:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

"Ant" wrote in message
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On 11/23/2011 2:07 PM PT, Dominique typed:

Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?


snip

Many musicians and pro/semi-pro recording studios use USB sound devices,
for example:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...=USBinterfaces


Interesting. Wouldn't there be latencies and stuff? USB isn't that fast.


I don't have any USB output sound devices except midi keyboard and
electronic drums which don't exibit latency but then it's not expected (or
for my use required) with midi.

I also have a quality USB studio mic that I love. Excellent for recording
just about anything. That said, if I use the mic as input and give output to
the speakers, there is a slight but noticable lag, e.g. sounds like a very
short echo effect. I'm not sure what's involved in that but seems obvious
there's at least some type of translation going on between the mic's usb
input driver and converting it to analog before sending it to the sound card
for output.

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Old November 24th 11, 01:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?


"pjp" wrote in message ...
"Ant" wrote in message ...
On 11/23/2011 2:07 PM PT, Dominique typed:

Ew, an USB external sound device? Isn't that like slow and annoying?

snip

Many musicians and pro/semi-pro recording studios use USB sound devices,
for example:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...=USBinterfaces


Interesting. Wouldn't there be latencies and stuff? USB isn't that fast.


I don't have any USB output sound devices except midi keyboard and electronic drums which don't exibit latency but
then it's not expected (or for my use required) with midi.

I also have a quality USB studio mic that I love. Excellent for recording just about anything. That said, if I use the
mic as input and give output to the speakers, there is a slight but noticable lag, e.g. sounds like a very short echo
effect. I'm not sure what's involved in that but seems obvious there's at least some type of translation going on
between the mic's usb input driver and converting it to analog before sending it to the sound card for output.


Do you think maybe that's caused by feedback rather than latency in the mic? That's about the same effect I got from my
old (REALLY old) mic plugged into my amp (no USB involved there).
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Old November 24th 11, 01:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,alt.windows7.general
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Default Third party Windows audio driver for onboard RealTek audio?

On 23/11/2011 21:17, pjp wrote:
"SC Tom" wrote in message ...

"Ant" wrote in message
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Hello.

Is there a such thing? I seem to be having rare and random (not easy
to reproduce) problems with my current RealTek onboard audio even
with old and newest/latest audio RealTek audio drivers in my updated
Windows (32-bit XP Pro. SP3 and 64-bit 7 HPE). And yes, I tried using a

Thank you in advance.


I had the best luck uninstalling ALL audio drivers, rebooting into
BIOS, and disabling the onboard audio. Save and boot. Then reboot into
BIOS, re-enable the onboard audio, boot up, and install the latest
RealTek/AC'97 drivers. You may have an install problem, pointing to
HDDAUD.SYS or some such program. If so, search for it on you PC- it's
probably already there. Once that's taken care of, the installation
goes pretty smoothly.

That said, I haven't stayed with onboard audio for very long. It has
always been flaky for me, no matter who made the audio chip. It would
be set up for 5.1 SS, and the next thing you know, it's now 2.0 or
2.1. Put it back to 5.1 and it would stay there for a while, but as
soon as I opened a game or something that didn't support 5.1, Windows
(or the audio driver setup) would put the speakers back to stereo and
I would have to manually change them. I had a couple of Creative Labs
external USB cards that worked well, but the newer ones, not so much.
I finally bought a Zalman RM-ZSSC V2 USB card and am very happy with
it. I get great surround sound out of it, and had no problems getting
it to work right out of the box.

http://www.epinions.com/review/Zalma...t_503714057860


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3B872/...N=B000E 3B872


I know that's probably not the solution you're looking for, but
barring getting the MB audio drivers to work, that's the route I took :-)
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I concur. Onboard sound has always been lacking even on my current 7.1
system. Could not get it to work properly and the driver config program
didn't seem to offer much of anything (actually didn't seem to even have
one). Put in my old AOpen Cobra 850 and viola 5.1 back with both mic and
line inputs also working as expected (under Vista, no driver for 7 )


I've never understood why people need 7.1 sound systems. I certainly
have only two years and not eitht. So a Stereo system with a decent
amplifier and decent speakers is more than adequate for me as opposed to
eight run of the mill or even inferior speakers.

The sound will reverberate around a room and a good recording can create
that atmosphere which surround sound systems claim to create but do so
only in an artificial sounding way. What I hate most are the bass sounds
that come thumping to you with no definition of pitch.

The bane of modern feature films, surely! My blood boils when I hear
such artificial sounds!
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