MS shoving Windows 10 UP YOUR UPDATES!

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015, Big Bad Bob wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10...hy_windows_10/

"In the latest raft of MS updates, the "optional" Windows 10 option on
this Windows 7 PC was pre-ticked. Can that be right? If I hadn't noticed
it would have caused havoc here."

In THIS example, the author went to 'windows udpate' to check for
updates, found that under *OPTIONAL* (which you have to open up to
view), an update for "Upgrade to Windows 10 Home" had be PRE-CHECKED FOR
HIM, such that if he had NOT noticed, he'd be DOWNLOADING THE ****ING
*DOWN*GRADE to 10, and INSTALLING IT, interrupting his day and wasting
bandwidth, among other things.


But Microsoft, when FACED WITH THIS **** RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR
GODDAMNED FACES where they COULD NOT IGNORE IT, issued THIS statement...
finally... after being confronted MULTIPLE times:

"In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this
was a mistake and we are removing Windows 10 from Windows Update for
users that have not reserved a copy of Windows 10."

"a mistake"


Yeah, right.


MICROSOFT, YOU ASSHATS JUST DO NOT GET IT THAT WE CUSTOMERS DO *NOT*
WANT YOUR ****ED-UP BULL**** VERSION WITH ITS ADWARE AND SPYWARE AND
*FUGLY* 2D ABOMINATION "the METRO" INTERFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# # ####### ### ### ###
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Thanks for the heads-up, Bob. After all, who checks under
"optional updates" unless they have a reason to? M$ seems
to be getting mighty desperate these days. I haven't
downloaded any updates from M$ on my Win 7 x64 desktop ever
since reading the news of M$'s forced-aggression tactics, and
by the looks of things I don't plan to any time in the future.
But of course, M$ could end up forcing the "10" update anyway.
The moment I see that happening, I'm wiping my hard disc and
moving to whatever is the most popular version Linux, "Mint?"

This seems very important for Win 7 users, so x-posted to:
alt.hacker,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware, alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server

--
Bub

Per Bubba:
After all, who checks under
"optional updates" unless they have a reason to? M$ seems
to be getting mighty desperate these days.

I just opened up the Windows Update Control Panel to check the settings
and noticed "Note: Windows Update might update itself automatically
first when checking for other updates. Read out privacy statement
online."

I have to wonder if the safest thing isn't to just figure out how to
drive a stake through the heart of Windows Updates and do it.
--
Pete Cresswell

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Per Bubba:
After all, who checks under
"optional updates" unless they have a reason to? M$ seems
to be getting mighty desperate these days.

I just opened up the Windows Update Control Panel to check the settings
and noticed "Note: Windows Update might update itself automatically
first when checking for other updates. Read out privacy statement
online."

I suppose it's possible that the Windows Update program
itself might automatically check for and download updates
to that while checking for other "important" and "optional"
updates, but at this point I'm not taking any more chances
with M$ updates. If and when my Windows 7 OS conks out
for whatever reason, I'll take my chances with Linux. Most
of the freeware programs I use are already ported to Linux,
and the few that aren't are open source, so I don't see
that I have much to lose. M$ is taking a long walk off a
short pier.

I have to wonder if the safest thing isn't to just figure out how to
drive a stake through the heart of Windows Updates and do it.

Sounds about right, those blood-sucking leeches! I have
two older PCs running XP SP3, and they still run just fine
apart from the M$ nag screens warning that XP is no longer
supported.

--
Bub

Bubba wrote:

If and when my Windows 7 OS conks out
for whatever reason, I'll take my chances with Linux.

When August 2016 rolls around, the "free" upgrade
offer will be over, and you can then safely
turn on Win7 Windows Updates again.

Paul

Per Bubba:
I suppose it's possible that the Windows Update program
itself might automatically check for and download updates
to that while checking for other "important" and "optional"
updates, but at this point I'm not taking any more chances
with M$ updates. If and when my Windows 7 OS conks out
for whatever reason...

I may have over-dramatized my own concerns. My solution to system
integrity and backups is to:

- Religiously keep data and system on separate drives or, at least,
separate partitions.

- Always have on hand an image of my system when it was known
(or, at least hoped...) to be good.

- Keep a log of any changes I make to the system

- Re-image if/when anything looks goofey.


Using this strategy, I survived several years of having a teenager
pounding on my machine for a couple of hours per day.

After the first dozen-or-so reimages, it became trivial.... or *almost*
trivial.... -)
--
Pete Cresswell

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:

Per Bubba:
I suppose it's possible that the Windows Update program
itself might automatically check for and download updates
to that while checking for other "important" and "optional"
updates, but at this point I'm not taking any more chances
with M$ updates. If and when my Windows 7 OS conks out
for whatever reason...

I may have over-dramatized my own concerns. My solution to system
integrity and backups is to:

- Religiously keep data and system on separate drives or, at least,
separate partitions.

- Always have on hand an image of my system when it was known
(or, at least hoped...) to be good.

- Keep a log of any changes I make to the system

- Re-image if/when anything looks goofey.


Using this strategy, I survived several years of having a teenager
pounding on my machine for a couple of hours per day.

After the first dozen-or-so reimages, it became trivial.... or *almost*
trivial.... -)

Sounds like you've had better luck with a more modern
and well thought-out approach. I'm more old-school, so
if M$ keeps going down the road they're on, I'll vote
with my feet in the OS department. For user file backups,
I like RW DVDs and flash drives. I never bothered with
system backups because restore points have worked well
enough, so far, and if that stops working I figure it's
time to start from scratch. Sure cleans up the registry.

--
Bub

(PeteCresswell) wrote on 10/21/2015 5:41 PM:
Per Bubba:
After all, who checks under
"optional updates" unless they have a reason to? M$ seems
to be getting mighty desperate these days.

I just opened up the Windows Update Control Panel to check the settings
and noticed "Note: Windows Update might update itself automatically
first when checking for other updates. Read out privacy statement
online."

I have to wonder if the safest thing isn't to just figure out how to
drive a stake through the heart of Windows Updates and do it.


"Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away"

Everbody just calm down.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Everyone hates me because I'm paranoid.

(PeteCresswell) wrote on 10/21/2015 9:30 PM:
Per Bubba:
I suppose it's possible that the Windows Update program
itself might automatically check for and download updates
to that while checking for other "important" and "optional"
updates, but at this point I'm not taking any more chances
with M$ updates. If and when my Windows 7 OS conks out
for whatever reason...

I may have over-dramatized my own concerns. My solution to system
integrity and backups is to:

- Religiously keep data and system on separate drives or, at least,
separate partitions.

Separate partion does no good if the drive dies.


- Always have on hand an image of my system when it was known
(or, at least hoped...) to be good.

Yes, but on a separate physical drive.


- Keep a log of any changes I make to the system

- Re-image if/when anything looks goofey.


Using this strategy, I survived several years of having a teenager
pounding on my machine for a couple of hours per day.


Another reason I never had kids.


--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Everyone hates me because I'm paranoid.

For users of windows 10 home edition you have no choice its not
disabablable.
For users of windows 10 professional you can disable windows updates.
And run it manually or not at all.


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AL'S COMPUTERS
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
...
Per Bubba:
After all, who checks under
"optional updates" unless they have a reason to? M$ seems
to be getting mighty desperate these days.

I just opened up the Windows Update Control Panel to check the settings
and noticed "Note: Windows Update might update itself automatically
first when checking for other updates. Read out privacy statement
online."

I have to wonder if the safest thing isn't to just figure out how to
drive a stake through the heart of Windows Updates and do it.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 10/21/2015 11:00 PM, Andy wrote:
For users of windows 10 home edition you have no choice its not
disabablable.
For users of windows 10 professional you can disable windows updates.
And run it manually or not at all.

Is this what you're referring to?

http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-...ading-updates/

Prevent Automatic Downloading of Updates on a Specific Connection

When you set a connection as “metered,” Windows 10 won’t automatically
download updates on it. Windows 10 will automatically set certain types
of connections — cellular data connections, for example — as metered.
However, you can set any connection like as a metered connection.

.....To change this option, open the Settings app, select Network &
Internet, scroll down, and select “Advanced options” below the list of
Wi-Fi networks. Enable the “Set as metered connection” option. This
option only affects the Wi-Fi network you’re currently connected to, but
Windows will remember this setting for each individual Wi-Fi network.

On 10/21/15 17:25, mike so wittily quipped:
If the desktop linux community could quit bickering and forking long
enough to launch an actual coordinated attack, they could
accept the market that MS keeps trying to hand them.

yeah, snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory... just like certain
politicians who were elected to STOP OBAKA [and have only ENABLED him]

On 10/21/15 23:39, Mike S so wittily quipped:
On 10/21/2015 11:00 PM, Andy wrote:
For users of windows 10 home edition you have no choice its not
disabablable.
For users of windows 10 professional you can disable windows updates.
And run it manually or not at all.

Is this what you're referring to?

http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-...ading-updates/

the problem isn't WINDOWS 10 updates - it's WINDOWS 7 UPDATES
"automatically enabling" an OPTIONAL update that INSTALLS WINDOWS 10 on
top of your PERFECTLY GOOD [and SUPERIOR] Windows 7 installation!

It's like Microsoft is saying "GODDAMMIT, you WANT this, so I'm SHOVING
IT UP YOUR ASS, GODDAMMIT!" You know, like a RAPIST.

and we're supposed to SMILE, ENJOY IT, and THANK THEM afterwards.

On 10/21/2015 11:53 PM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 10/21/15 23:39, Mike S so wittily quipped:
On 10/21/2015 11:00 PM, Andy wrote:
For users of windows 10 home edition you have no choice its not
disabablable.
For users of windows 10 professional you can disable windows updates.
And run it manually or not at all.

Is this what you're referring to?

http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-...ading-updates/

the problem isn't WINDOWS 10 updates - it's WINDOWS 7 UPDATES
"automatically enabling" an OPTIONAL update that INSTALLS WINDOWS 10 on
top of your PERFECTLY GOOD [and SUPERIOR] Windows 7 installation!

It's like Microsoft is saying "GODDAMMIT, you WANT this, so I'm SHOVING
IT UP YOUR ASS, GODDAMMIT!" You know, like a RAPIST.

and we're supposed to SMILE, ENJOY IT, and THANK THEM afterwards.

OK... um, what technique were you referring to then, for preventing
updates on w10 I mean, lol.

In article
Bubba Bub@ba wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015, Big Bad Bob wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10...hy_windows_10/

"In the latest raft of MS updates, the "optional" Windows 10 option on
this Windows 7 PC was pre-ticked. Can that be right? If I hadn't noticed
it would have caused havoc here."

In THIS example, the author went to 'windows udpate' to check for
updates, found that under *OPTIONAL* (which you have to open up to
view), an update for "Upgrade to Windows 10 Home" had be PRE-CHECKED FOR
HIM, such that if he had NOT noticed, he'd be DOWNLOADING THE ****ING
*DOWN*GRADE to 10, and INSTALLING IT, interrupting his day and wasting
bandwidth, among other things.


But Microsoft, when FACED WITH THIS **** RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR
GODDAMNED FACES where they COULD NOT IGNORE IT, issued THIS statement...
finally... after being confronted MULTIPLE times:

"In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this
was a mistake and we are removing Windows 10 from Windows Update for
users that have not reserved a copy of Windows 10."

"a mistake"


Yeah, right.


MICROSOFT, YOU ASSHATS JUST DO NOT GET IT THAT WE CUSTOMERS DO *NOT*
WANT YOUR ****ED-UP BULL**** VERSION WITH ITS ADWARE AND SPYWARE AND
*FUGLY* 2D ABOMINATION "the METRO" INTERFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

# # ####### ### ### ###
## # # # ### ### ###
# # # # # ### ### ###
# # # # # # # #
# # # # #
# ## # # ### ### ###
# # ####### ### ### ###

Thanks for the heads-up, Bob. After all, who checks under
"optional updates" unless they have a reason to? M$ seems
to be getting mighty desperate these days. I haven't
downloaded any updates from M$ on my Win 7 x64 desktop ever
since reading the news of M$'s forced-aggression tactics, and
by the looks of things I don't plan to any time in the future.
But of course, M$ could end up forcing the "10" update anyway.
The moment I see that happening, I'm wiping my hard disc and
moving to whatever is the most popular version Linux, "Mint?"

This seems very important for Win 7 users, so x-posted to:
alt.hacker,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware, alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server

So run both. Get the free upgrade and snag the Windows 10 ISOs
from MS.

Run a dual boot with Windows 7 and Windows 10. Works great.
Hide the Windows 10 update on the 7 build and just keep rolling
along.

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015, Big Bad Bob wrote:

On 10/21/15 17:25, mike so wittily quipped:
If the desktop linux community could quit bickering and forking long
enough to launch an actual coordinated attack, they could
accept the market that MS keeps trying to hand them.

yeah, snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory... just like certain
politicians who were elected to STOP OBAKA [and have only ENABLED him]

You know why they do that, it's because politicians are
really just puppets groomed and appointed into office
("elections" are obviously a sham) to rubber-stamp their
real bosses' hegemonic geopolitical agenda. Most of the
public don't even know what a teleprompter is. Perceived
political opposition is manufactured, scripted, coordinated,
and disseminated, for public consumption. It's theater.

--
Bub