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Heck!
Yesterday I changed both the location and tiles URL preferences in about:config (redirecting them to a local webserver) and a bit later reset them to their defaults, and now the boot-up connection attempt to tiles seems to have gone (the one to location is still going strong though). No idea what happened. Oh well ... Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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"R.Wieser" wrote
| That Pale Moon did not have *any* such information was an instant turn-off | for me. | I use PM as my main browser. I disable script, frames, 3rd-party files, etc. When I need to have more functionality I use FF with NoScript. It's easier that way than to keep changing settings for different websites. I think of them as basically 2 copies of the same browser. Unfortunately, PM ended support for XP some time ago. I don't remember whether they had any specific reason. Basically, PM is a fork of FF that skips a lot of extras in order to make it more lean. As far as I know they don't make any changes to the build. They just leave out things like parental controls that many people won't need. I've found it to be notably quicker in the past, but I haven't bothered to compare it to more recent FF versions. By contrast, something like K-Meleon has its own way of doing things. It's based on the Mozilla code but they make their own package. For instance, in PM and FF I can replace the "throbber" by putting GIFs in the chrome folder and adding 2 lines to userChrome.css. In K-Meleon it had to be an AVI and I don't think it involved adding anything to userChrome.css. Unfortunately, being open source, all of these things keep changing. PM ended XP support. K-Meleon has been outdated for years now. It was my main browser for awhile but they just stopped working on it. Then suddenly it went from v. 1 to v. 74. Then development slowed again. Kids! Along the way, the FF throbber stopped working and I had to settle for their uniquely uninspiring circle of dots. (Though I don't mind so much because these days I rarely have a chance to even look at the animation before the page is finished loading.) My PM throbber is still a tiny animation of the Cape Neddick lighthouse in Maine, searching the bay for a webpage, with its powerful spotlight. The Mozillians make hundreds of milions of dollars per year now, mostly on bribes from Google to trick people into using Google search. They've joined the big boys. They need to look more "professional". So they can't be having people doing homey things like making their own throbber icons. The pros do grown-up things, like raking in bucks and supporting corporate spyware with new features like push and geo-location. Does PM still allow changing the throbber? Probably not but I don't know since I'm using the last XP version. So I suppose it's somewhat academic to talk about differences between Mozilla browsers, when differences between versions of one Mozilla browser can sometimes be greater and more disruptive. |
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"R.Wieser" wrote
| So in context, FF seems like a nice guy. | | True. I just wish I could find myself a less complex/conflicted friend | though ... :-) | It seems odd, doesn't it? I wonder what happened to all the open source people who worked according to conscience to do good things. Maybe they've just been trampled by money interests. Now we have extremists like Richard Stallman and Linux activists on one side, and sold-out, lip-service lackeys like Mozilla on the other side, doing Google's bidding.... And of course, even Google had a vein of idealism at one time... long ago and far, far away. I'm guessing the the majority of Mozillians have probably drunk the kool-aid and honestly believe that the future of the Web is, and should be, corporate commerce.... and that they're just trying to keep up. They figure you want geo-location because you're undoubtedly walking past a Starbucks right now, desperately hoping you'll get a coupon for discount kiddie coffee on your phone. After all, that's what they're doing. What else is there? |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 20:52:50 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Paul, Posts to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general are archived on Google Groups. Posts to alt.windows7.general are not archived. Crossposting to both groups, should cause it to be archived on GG. The "microsoft.public.windowsxp.general" helps ensure it's captured. You don't get it, do you ? By chopping off microsoft.public.windowsxp.general from it I would not see my own post appear, and neither would I see any responses to it. It would be as if the thread suddenly died. But the posts then wouldn't go to a group that belongs in alt.nostalgia.old-timers where all XP related traffic belongs. |
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mechanic,
But the posts then wouldn't go to a group that belongs in alt.nostalgia.old-timers where all XP related traffic belongs. Troll ! Flamewar !! :-) |
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"Mayayana" on Tue, 14 Aug 2018 08:32:33
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: "R.Wieser" wrote | So in context, FF seems like a nice guy. | | True. I just wish I could find myself a less complex/conflicted friend | though ... :-) | It seems odd, doesn't it? I wonder what happened to all the open source people who worked according to conscience to do good things. Maybe they've just been trampled by money interests. Now we have extremists like Richard Stallman and Linux activists on one side, and sold-out, lip-service lackeys like Mozilla on the other side, doing Google's bidding.... And of course, even Google had a vein of idealism at one time... long ago and far, far away. I'm guessing the the majority of Mozillians have probably drunk the kool-aid and honestly believe that the future of the Web is, and should be, corporate commerce.... and that they're just trying to keep up. They figure you want geo-location because you're undoubtedly walking past a Starbucks right now, desperately hoping you'll get a coupon for discount kiddie coffee on your phone. After all, that's what they're doing. What else is there? And the result is that some of the idealists have left mozilla/firefox. I use Palemoon, which claims to be a fork from Firefox. Not being a serious computer guy anymore all I know is that it seems to load faster, and doesn't change the layout I'm used to "to improve my browser experience." -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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R.Wieser wrote:
Mayayana, I guess I think of it kind of like.... FF is a flakey but well meaning friend who often shows up trying to sell me some new junk. :-) Not a too-bad description. I do regard it as one of my less trustworthy friends though, ever since they started to cozy up to advertising. If they would not have done that I would probably not even have batted an eye in regard to its "lets call home" behaviour. Simply said: I don't trust them anymore. So in context, FF seems like a nice guy. True. I just wish I could find myself a less complex/conflicted friend though ... :-) Heck, I would probably still running FF with a single-digit version number if the changed encryption standards had not forced my hand ... Regards, Rudy Wieser Same here. Like Mayayana, I've got Pale Moon as my second browser, and it definitely is faster loading. And having both of them has come in handy at times. :-) I would say PM is less invasive, but occasionally doesn't work as well as the new FF on some sites. |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:27:22 -0400, Paul wrote:
Perhaps Google does archive the 1TB per day of illegal movie uploads in various binary groups, but that would add up after a while. (There is one dude, who does 1TB of uploads per day all by himself!) To archive all of USENET, you need a farm the size of the one that Giganews runs. Google could do it. But, is it worth it ? I don't think anyone has any idea just how large a "full feed" of USENET would amount to. I used Easynews for about 15 years and every year they'd announce the size of the average daily feed in their support newsgroup, so yes, there are people who know what that size is, but no, I don't remember and it's been quite a few years since I changed NSPs. It's undoubtedly even higher now. The abuse is large. The pipe has to be large. To have retention (as a Giganews selling feature), you need disks. All of the premium providers have that problem and all of them have addressed it, growing their data storage capabilities to keep pace with the constant growth. No one expires anything anymore so the only things that routinely get lost are the DMCA takedowns. One other thing about Easynews - they have a web interface where you can participate with just a web browser. One of its features is a search capability so I used to sometimes search by entering only a lower size constraint, leaving the upper constraint blank. It always amazed me to see people uploading 350-400 gigabytes in a single multipart archive, with each part being a gig or so. That's beyond huge for an archive. I checked a few pieces of those monsters here and there, only to find them encrypted every time. I can't even guess what they might have contained. We used to joke that people were using Usenet as their unofficial cloud storage provider. There are no upload limits and you can retrieve your data from anywhere in the world with an Internet connection. No other storage provider can beat that since it comes free with your Usenet service. -- Char Jackson |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:29:42 -0600, "Bill in Co"
wrote: Same here. Like Mayayana, I've got Pale Moon as my second browser, and it definitely is faster loading. And having both of them has come in handy at times. :-) I would say PM is less invasive, but occasionally doesn't work as well as the new FF on some sites. You both might want to read https://www.howtogeek.com/335712/upd...n-or-basilisk/ |
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Ken,
You both might want to read https://www.howtogeek.com/335712/upd...n-or-basilisk/ And if they do they will probably notice that its an "FF good, all others are bad" fanboy-ish article, and should be taken with a grain (or two) of salt. And I don't think you noticed, but some version regression could well be a *good* thing (as long as the encryptions are upgraded that is), as a few of us here do not really like the current advertisement-friendly, intrusive and nannying behaviour of FF (as well as feature-creep), which maybe isn't (yet) there in those older versions ... Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 19:22:49 +0200, "R.Wieser"
wrote: Ken, You both might want to read https://www.howtogeek.com/335712/upd...n-or-basilisk/ And if they do they will probably notice that its an "FF good, all others are bad" fanboy-ish article, and should be taken with a grain (or two) of salt. That's fine. I didn't suggest that they, or you, shouldn't use it. I suggested that they read the article. What all off you do is up to you. |
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Ken,
I suggested that they read the article. To be honest, I wonder why you want(ed) that. I take it you read it yourself, and must have recognised it for the FUD it is ... Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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