Outlook Express on Win 7

Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express in
Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple of good
solutions that I've found:

One is "OE Classic", which is a really close clone of OE. (I found the
email rules a bit limited, however, in comparison to OE, and I didn't see
any news rules, per se).

The other is a customized version of OE that runs on Windows 7 or 8 called
"OEx", which truly is OE, but is using some modified DLLs to be compatible
for Win 7 or 8.

Here are the two websites, if interested:

OE Classic - https://www.oeclassic.com/ (free or costs $25 for the full
version)

OEx for Win 7, 8 (donationware - just requires a small donation)
https://runasxp.com/Topic-Download-O...ows-7-8-and-10

I've tried them both, and they both work pretty well. If you're diligent
and computer savvy, you can import all your setttings (account settings,
blocked senders, email and news rules, etc) from your existing OE folder on
your old WinXP computer, if you still have it.

I've decided to stick with OEx (the modified version of OE that works on Win
7 and 8, since regular OE will not install on those systems due to DLL
conflicts)

Short of that, there's always Thunderbird, but I like Outlook Express more
than T-bird for email and newsgroups just for its sure simplicity and
features.

On 08/20/2018 08:23 PM, Bill in Co wrote:
Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express in
Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple of good
solutions that I've found:

One is "OE Classic", which is a really close clone of OE. (I found the
email rules a bit limited, however, in comparison to OE, and I didn't see
any news rules, per se).

The other is a customized version of OE that runs on Windows 7 or 8 called
"OEx", which truly is OE, but is using some modified DLLs to be compatible
for Win 7 or 8.

Here are the two websites, if interested:

OE Classic - https://www.oeclassic.com/ (free or costs $25 for the full
version)

OEx for Win 7, 8 (donationware - just requires a small donation)
https://runasxp.com/Topic-Download-O...ows-7-8-and-10

I've tried them both, and they both work pretty well. If you're diligent
and computer savvy, you can import all your setttings (account settings,
blocked senders, email and news rules, etc) from your existing OE folder on
your old WinXP computer, if you still have it.

I've decided to stick with OEx (the modified version of OE that works on Win
7 and 8, since regular OE will not install on those systems due to DLL
conflicts)

Short of that, there's always Thunderbird, but I like Outlook Express more
than T-bird for email and newsgroups just for its sure simplicity and
features.



Really nice. I have to admit I did like OE for the simplicity. And I
know a lot of users have been beating their head on the wall looking for
a workaround.
I've been on Thunderbird for almost forever but did use OE someplace
back in the days.

In article ,
(Bill in Co) wrote:

*From:* "Bill in Co"
*Date:* Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:23:23 -0600

Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express
in Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple
of good solutions that I've found:


Three actually! I use Windows Mail (Vista's version of OE) on W7. Works like a
charm and is pretty well indistinguishable from OE. The latest tutorial for
installing it is at https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...dows-mail.html
You *don't* need a copy of Vista to install it.
--
Regards
John ) Remove the obvious to reply...

"Bill in Co" wrote

| Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express in
| Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple of good
| solutions that I've found:
|

One caveat with that... I still use OE because there
are too many little things I dislike about TB and switching
over would be a pain. Also, OE does everything I want.
But OE can't handle the latest TLS encryption and I
had to switch back to unencrypted email in order to
stay with OE because my webhost/email server is no
longer supporting encryption deemed insecure.

If they did a little to fix TB I'd probably change.
But as it is, it's a pain: No easy way to import
folders. Mixed up settings, with idiocy like outgoing
server being listed in a completely different section
from incoming server. And one of the worst things:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.

Mayayana wrote:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.

Mine does that. Ver. 52.9.1. It gives the option to change it to HTML
but I receive everything in plain text.

Mayayana wrote:
"Bill in Co" wrote

| Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express in
| Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple of good
| solutions that I've found:
|

One caveat with that... I still use OE because there
are too many little things I dislike about TB and switching
over would be a pain. Also, OE does everything I want.
But OE can't handle the latest TLS encryption and I
had to switch back to unencrypted email in order to
stay with OE because my webhost/email server is no
longer supporting encryption deemed insecure.

If they did a little to fix TB I'd probably change.
But as it is, it's a pain: No easy way to import
folders. Mixed up settings, with idiocy like outgoing
server being listed in a completely different section
from incoming server. And one of the worst things:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.

On TB, you could look for the mailnews.display preferences.

http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/108153/

( http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings )

mailnews.display.disallow_mime_handlers 1 (may want to crank up)
mailnews.display.html_as 1 HTML-TXT-HTML
mailnews.display.prefer_plaintext True

I use those settings for News, and for mail I use
a separate program.

*******

You're probably right about the folder import thing.
Requires "user creativity" by the looks of it.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Import_from_Outlook_Express

Paul

"Weatherman" wrote

| Mayayana wrote:
| No option to receive only palin text. That's a
| showstopper for me.
|
| Mine does that. Ver. 52.9.1. It gives the option to change it to HTML
| but I receive everything in plain text.

Where do you see that? I've never found the
setting. In OE it only renders plain text. If someone
sends HTML-only email I'll see nothing.

"Paul" wrote

| On TB, you could look for the mailnews.display preferences.
|
| http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/108153/
|
| ( http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings )
|
| mailnews.display.disallow_mime_handlers 1 (may want to crank
up)
| mailnews.display.html_as 1 HTML-TXT-HTML
| mailnews.display.prefer_plaintext True
|

Wouldn't you know it. I have to dig into prefs
for a basic setting, which they insist on calling
paranoid.

| You're probably right about the folder import thing.
| Requires "user creativity" by the looks of it.
|

It imports them as a sub-tree. It might be possible
to do something like make a folder named John,
import a John OE folder, then select and copy all
from one to the other, then delete the OE version.
I haven't tried that. It can be done in OE.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:52:08 -0400
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Bill in Co" wrote

| Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express
in | Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple
of good | solutions that I've found:
|

One caveat with that... I still use OE because there
are too many little things I dislike about TB and switching
over would be a pain. Also, OE does everything I want.
But OE can't handle the latest TLS encryption and I
had to switch back to unencrypted email in order to
stay with OE because my webhost/email server is no
longer supporting encryption deemed insecure.

If they did a little to fix TB I'd probably change.
But as it is, it's a pain: No easy way to import
folders. Mixed up settings, with idiocy like outgoing
server being listed in a completely different section
from incoming server. And one of the worst things:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.




Have you tried Claws Mail? It has import and export mbox file in the
File menu, and HTML is shown as plain text by default.

It takes awhile to set it up and learn to use it, but it was worth it
to me, to get away from Thunderbird.

You can also filter on any phrase in the headers.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:13:51 +0200, Weatherman
wrote:

Mayayana wrote:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.

Mine does that. Ver. 52.9.1. It gives the option to change it to HTML
but I receive everything in plain text.

You know that little body shake that people do when they drink tequila
for the first time? I did that just now when I saw "palin text" above.

--

Char Jackson

This is the version of OE I use:

https://sites.google.com/site/simple...look-express-6

I do everything in plain text so after you install you need to search the
registry for "Message Read HTML" and change the 1 to a 0. Have used in
Windows 7 and am now using in Windows 10. Have Classic Start Menu installed
in Windows 10.
--
Bill

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

Bill in Co wrote:
Wasn't sure if anyone was interested in still using Outlook Express in
Windows 7, but if so, it turns out there are at least a couple of good
solutions that I've found:

One is "OE Classic", which is a really close clone of OE. (I found
the email rules a bit limited, however, in comparison to OE, and I
didn't see any news rules, per se).

The other is a customized version of OE that runs on Windows 7 or 8
called "OEx", which truly is OE, but is using some modified DLLs to
be compatible for Win 7 or 8.

Here are the two websites, if interested:

OE Classic - https://www.oeclassic.com/ (free or costs $25 for the
full version)

OEx for Win 7, 8 (donationware - just requires a small donation)
https://runasxp.com/Topic-Download-O...ows-7-8-and-10

I've tried them both, and they both work pretty well. If you're
diligent and computer savvy, you can import all your setttings
(account settings, blocked senders, email and news rules, etc) from
your existing OE folder on your old WinXP computer, if you still have
it.
I've decided to stick with OEx (the modified version of OE that works
on Win 7 and 8, since regular OE will not install on those systems
due to DLL conflicts)

Short of that, there's always Thunderbird, but I like Outlook Express
more than T-bird for email and newsgroups just for its sure
simplicity and features.

Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:13:51 +0200, Weatherman
wrote:

Mayayana wrote:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.
Mine does that. Ver. 52.9.1. It gives the option to change it to HTML
but I receive everything in plain text.

You know that little body shake that people do when they drink tequila
for the first time? I did that just now when I saw "palin text" above.

It's a hell of a hard translator to write. The
translation depends on whether you're sitting
in the front porch or not.

Paul

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:56:11 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 15:13:51 +0200, Weatherman
wrote:

Mayayana wrote:
No option to receive only palin text. That's a
showstopper for me.

Mine does that. Ver. 52.9.1. It gives the option to change it to HTML
but I receive everything in plain text.

You know that little body shake that people do when they drink tequila
for the first time? I did that just now when I saw "palin text" above.



LOL!

Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote

| On TB, you could look for the mailnews.display preferences.
|
| http://www.bucksch.org/1/projects/mozilla/108153/
|
| ( http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings )
|
| mailnews.display.disallow_mime_handlers 1 (may want to crank
up)
| mailnews.display.html_as 1 HTML-TXT-HTML
| mailnews.display.prefer_plaintext True
|

Wouldn't you know it. I have to dig into prefs
for a basic setting, which they insist on calling
paranoid.

It isn't that bad. This came up some time ago (~ June 17) is this
group in the 'Mail readers' thread. It looks like you missed that.

Below is what I derived from Wolf K's response
). Thanks again Wolf.

------------------------------- cut here ------------------------------

17JUN2018: Thunderbird equivalent of OE/W[L]M 'Read all messages in plain text':
================================================== ==============================

- In Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail, I often used
the setting 'Read all messages in plain text':

- Tools - Options... - 'Read' tab - tick 'Read all messages in
plain text'

- The Thunderbird alternative for this is:

- View - Message Body As -
- Original HTML
- Simple HTML
- Plain Text

(From Wolf K's 17JUN2018 response in thread 'Mail readers' in Usenet
newsgroup alt.windows7.general .)

------------------------------- THE END ------------------------------

"Frank Slootweg" wrote
|
| - View - Message Body As -
| - Original HTML
| - Simple HTML
| - Plain Text
|

Thanks. I would have thought that was only
a per-message setting, but it does seem to stick.