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I started to do my backups today
and as usual I start with the 780 but near the end of the process I saw this: http://i66.tinypic.com/hwgy2r.jpg I checked other files and they had the same error. This is the first time I've seen this and also the first backup with the new 2TB HD. So does this mean that all the previous backups are useless? Here's the completion of the 780 backup: http://i66.tinypic.com/4i20k7.jpg Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I started to do my backups today and as usual I start with the 780 but near the end of the process I saw this: http://i66.tinypic.com/hwgy2r.jpg I checked other files and they had the same error. This is the first time I've seen this and also the first backup with the new 2TB HD. So does this mean that all the previous backups are useless? Here's the completion of the 780 backup: http://i66.tinypic.com/4i20k7.jpg Robert OK, so the first picture is telling me to "review what is in the XML file using Notepad". It means when Macrium migrated your backup scripts from version 5 or 6, to version 7, it messed up slightly. The second backup completed. That means it did *something*, but you'll have to check and see whether the expected materials are in the backup file or not. You can pretend to be doing a restore, by "Browsing" for a file to restore from. Once you've selected a file, on the right hand side of the Macrium window there should be a "Verify" item. If you run a Verify, all that does is verify the checksum of the backup. It doesn't create a summary of what was done, or any other useful thing. If you've backed up a single disk drive into the MRIMG file, you can right click the output file and select the "Explore Image" option from the top of the right-click context menu in File Explorer. (In other words, this time we're usng File Explorer and not the Macrium program.) Without "using" anything in the window that opens, you can admire the set of partitions captured. Say it had a 30GB and a 50GB partition, and you happened to know that the disk you were backing up had a 30GB and a 50GB partition. Then you'd know that both partitions made it into that MRIMG file. That gives one way to review whether the backup did something good or not. But I'd also want to look at the XML file that you run regularly to do your backups, to see where it's getting the digit "1" as the name for something. There's probably a simple explanation for what it is doing. And your newest version of Macrium isn't handling it right for some reason. When you insert multiple hard drives inside the PC, you upset the disk order. The disk "1" today, might be different than the disk "1" yesterday. Consider that possibility when reading the XML file. So, yes: 1) "Verify" - doing a verify confirms that the contents of the backup are good. If you had a 30GB and a 50GB partition in there, then you'd know the files inside were intact. That could take an hour, with the disk in the enclosure. 2) "Explore Image" - allows noting the list of backed-up partitions inside a particular MRIMG file. 3) Look at the XML file that defines the backup you just ran. Check it in Notepad, for any syntax error that could give something an errant name of "1" or whatever. See if the file identifies disks by their serial number, by their volumeID, or some other identifier. Disk1Partition1 isn't exactly a clever way to select disks, and I expect there are some other more precise identifiers in that file. HTH, Paul |
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I don't know if this matters but I
also noticed in your instructions you previously gave me that in step 1 it says Backup not Disk Image. http://i68.tinypic.com/2vtv2uf.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/j7pw8j.jpg Also I did not insert multiple drives in the 780, I did the cloning via external HD. I'm verifying the latest backup to the 780 now. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I don't know if this matters but I also noticed in your instructions you previously gave me that in step 1 it says Backup not Disk Image. http://i68.tinypic.com/2vtv2uf.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/j7pw8j.jpg Also I did not insert multiple drives in the 780, I did the cloning via external HD. I'm verifying the latest backup to the 780 now. Robert When you select "Disk Image", that is for the "backup" direction of transfer. Using the options underneath the partition row, you can select Clone this disk: Makes direct Disk-to-Disk exact copy, with no MRIMG file at all for later. Wipes destination drive clean before copy. Image This Disk = Backup: Takes the selected partitions on the disk and stores them in a MRIMG file, for later "Restore". Later, when you want to Restore, you select "Restore" on the top left of the screen, and the screen will be involved with taking that MRIMG from the "Image This Disk", and restoring it to some hard drive. Perhaps even restoring it over top of the same hard drive it came from (when there is malware on the machine). The Restore section of Macrium, should also have a Verify option, to verify the MRIMG file is internally consistent and not damaged by any disk errors. ******* If you prepare a brand new backup script while running the Version 7, then it should work without throwing an error. I'd prefer you use the stuff that works, but if it's too hard to figure out what Macrium is doing, just prepare another backup ("Image this disk") script and save it for running multiple times in future days. That's probably as complicated as figuring out what Macrium is doing right now. Paul |
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I hope I did this right:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2lmm0du.jpg http://i65.tinypic.com/33bmjhv.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/5u2qdj.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/2na1ieo.jpg I had to go to the Admin Account for the Explore Image. Robert |
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I understand all the instructions but I was
just relaying that I never see disk image on my side, just Backup, it never says Disk Image but I understand the controls etc are below and I have all your instructions on strips so I never get lost. Well, I hope not *L* Robert |
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I also forgot to make a Rescue CD when I
installed the 2TB HD in the 780 but it didn't prompt me to. So should I create one? Robert |
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In message , Mark
Twain writes: I also forgot to make a Rescue CD when I installed the 2TB HD in the 780 but it didn't prompt me to. So should I create one? Robert Do you mean the ordinary Microsoft rescue CD, or a Macrium one? How did you "install" the 2TB? If by cloning, or restoring from an image, then it wouldn't prompt you to make a Microsoft one, since as far as Windows is concerned, it still thinks its running the same installation of Windows as it was before. If you created a Microsoft rescue CD the first time you installed Windows (or after buying the machine new if it came with Windows preinstalled), that should still be valid; if you didn't, it's probably not a _bad_ thing to have, though not IMO of great importance provided you're making (external) images from time to time. If you've never made a Macrium boot CD (you did your cloning by running Macrium from within Windows), then you most definitely should: IMO, making that CD should be the _first_ thing you do when you start using Macrium. If you've already made one, no need to make another just because you've installed a bigger drive - it would be identical to the one you've already got - though having a second one in case the first suffers bit-rot does no harm. JPG visit 255soft.uk -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Worst programme ever made? I was in hospital once having a knee operation and I watched a whole episode of "EastEnders". Ugh! I suppose it's true to life. But so is diarrhoea - and I don't want to see that on television. - Patrick Moore, in Radio Times 12-18 May 2007. |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I hope I did this right: http://i63.tinypic.com/2lmm0du.jpg two 2TB drives, one is a backup drive http://i65.tinypic.com/33bmjhv.jpg verify image (command) http://i67.tinypic.com/5u2qdj.jpg verify image (dialog) http://i63.tinypic.com/2na1ieo.jpg 56 minute run, OK I had to go to the Admin Account for the Explore Image. http://i63.tinypic.com/243qaag.jpg Explore image (right-click context) http://i63.tinypic.com/258t4e9.jpg System 3GB WinC 112GB http://i64.tinypic.com/2qi5opv.jpg XML first part http://i65.tinypic.com/ivle1l.jpg XML second part (notification) http://i68.tinypic.com/20ueus7.jpg XML third part (sources) http://i64.tinypic.com/drcopj.jpg XML fourth part (sources) http://i68.tinypic.com/ieqsch.jpg XML fifth part (dest) Robert In the error message, the file 1-7-18 Win7 Pro Mrimg backup.xml is the file the error message is complaining about. That might be a backup command you created back in January. It's possible Reflect 7 is checking the XML scripts. Your photos show the XML script using a disk identifier. There are (at least) two identifiers on disk disk id="5A032C0C"1/disk There is DiskID, at around offset 0x1b8 of the MBR. There is also a VolumeID per partition, which is also an 8 hex digit number. You can check the VolumeID on each drive letter, like this. cd /d C: vol cd /d E: vol Apparently, Linux fdisk will list the DiskID. The syntax of that XML code for the disk, suggests it's using a DiskID, and any time it refers to Disk 1, it should be using that number. In this example, you can see I just created an XML definition, and I verified it by using HxD hex editor as well as by using Microsoft diskpart "detail disk" capability. https://i.postimg.cc/cHwy6yZP/diskid-macrium-uses.gif If you replace a hard drive with another, in Disk Management, when it asks you to choose MBR or GPT, it's at that moment that a new (random) DiskID would be written to the new disk. If the DiskID is not unique in value, that's when one of the disks goes to the "Offline" state. (If you make forensic quality disk clones, the second disk will go "offline".) Then, if some software is checking the XML file, it might notice that the DiskID on the Disk 1 in the system now, doesn't match the DiskID in the script. But the syntax of the error message isn't that helpful. It's not really pointing out or confirming the theory. Paul |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Mark Twain writes: I also forgot to make a Rescue CD when I installed the 2TB HD in the 780 but it didn't prompt me to. So should I create one? Robert Do you mean the ordinary Microsoft rescue CD, or a Macrium one? How did you "install" the 2TB? If by cloning, or restoring from an image, then it wouldn't prompt you to make a Microsoft one, since as far as Windows is concerned, it still thinks its running the same installation of Windows as it was before. If you created a Microsoft rescue CD the first time you installed Windows (or after buying the machine new if it came with Windows preinstalled), that should still be valid; if you didn't, it's probably not a _bad_ thing to have, though not IMO of great importance provided you're making (external) images from time to time. If you've never made a Macrium boot CD (you did your cloning by running Macrium from within Windows), then you most definitely should: IMO, making that CD should be the _first_ thing you do when you start using Macrium. If you've already made one, no need to make another just because you've installed a bigger drive - it would be identical to the one you've already got - though having a second one in case the first suffers bit-rot does no harm. JPG He is making Macrium backups, and needs a Rescue disc of a version equal to or greater than the software making the backup. Since he has upgraded both machines to use Macrium 7, then the software really should have prompted to make new rescue media. A version 7 Rescue disc should be able to restore version 7, version 6, or version 5 backups. As far as I know. I've not run into a situation yet, where that wasn't the case. For SATA to SATA, or SATA to USB2, there's a good chance the disc used in the 8500 would work on the 780. If add-on USB3 cards were used, it's not always a given that a particular WinPE version used to build the Rescue disc would have the driver needed. Maybe in that case, the disc from the 8500 wouldn't be the best choice for the 780. If the 8500 didn't have USB3, there'd be no need for the rescue disc generator to install the driver, then if the 780 had a USB3 card, you might not be able to use the USB3 plug during a restore. If the CDs were CDRW, then no harm is done by erasing the current disc for the 780 and using it to make a new Rescue disc. I use erasable discs here for those, and I still have a pile of them floating around (5 or 6). I sure hope one of them works :-) Paul |
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The Dell 780 was bought used through Staples https://www.staples.com/DELL-780-Tow...akamai-feo=off I meant a Macrium and yes I did make one previously for the 750GB HD but thought I would need a new one for the 2TB HD. Robert |
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I use CDRW's but when creating the Kapersky CD
I had to use a brand new one even though I had erased the information on the CDRW I wanted to use. So in that application it didn't work. So should I create another Rescue CD for the 780? Robert |
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Are you saying that the 780 doesn't
recognize the HD? I also had noticed this error on more than one file from the 750GB backups,.. so could it of been a problem with the 750HD? Is this also why it showed nothing on the info/health tabs on the HDTune scan? Robert |
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In message , Mark
Twain writes: The Dell 780 was bought used through Staples https://www.staples.com/DELL-780-Tow...4GB-Ram-750GB- DVDRW-Drive-with-Win-7-Pro-64bit-Refurbished/product_1498887?akamai-feo= off I meant a Macrium and yes I did make one previously for the 750GB HD but thought I would need a new one for the 2TB HD. Robert If _all_ you've done is fit a bigger drive (using Macrium to do the cloning or imaging), then I don't think you'll need a new one (assuming you do have one0. If you have also upgraded Macrium to a later version, then yes: Paul says a Macrium 7 CD ought to be able to use images created with 5 or 6 as well as 7, but _forwards_ compatibility is rarely guaranteed, i. e. if you've updated Macrium and then make a new image with it (as you should be doing anyway from time to time of course), then your old Macrium CD might not be able to use them. Ever been frustrated that you can't *disagree* with a petition? If so, visit 255soft.uk - and please pass it on, too. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "The great tragedy of science, the slaying of a beautiful theory by an ugly fact. - Thomas Henry Huxley |
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