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  #1  
Old February 25th 05, 04:23 PM
Ted
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.



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  #2  
Old February 25th 05, 07:03 PM
Peter
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the USB drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.




  #3  
Old February 25th 05, 10:56 PM
Ted
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller and
then reboot.


I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.






  #4  
Old February 26th 05, 03:01 AM
Peter
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller and
then reboot.


I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.







  #5  
Old February 26th 05, 03:15 AM
Ted
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller
and
then reboot.


I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.









  #6  
Old February 26th 05, 04:51 AM
Peter
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.










  #7  
Old February 26th 05, 06:35 AM
Ted
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.












  #8  
Old February 26th 05, 05:31 PM
Peter
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys, right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?


I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.













  #9  
Old February 26th 05, 06:02 PM
Ted
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys, right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?


I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.















  #10  
Old February 26th 05, 06:37 PM
Peter
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Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Ted,

OK, let me know to-morrow.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys, right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.
















  #11  
Old February 26th 05, 07:06 PM
Ted
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Hello Peter,

It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.


Maybe my statement is wrong.
Most likely it leaves it for next time USB device connection.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

OK, let me know to-morrow.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys,
right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that
works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local
Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall
the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.


















  #12  
Old February 27th 05, 03:19 AM
Peter
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Ted,

Yes, uninstall device from device manager would not delete the registry keys.
You should not delete the registry key unless the drivers of that USB device
was improperly loaded or could not be loaded.

I have two digicams, Sony and Canon, both working flawlessly with my two XP
Pro SP2 machines.

BTW, let me know the model and driver version of your Sony digicam. There
may be updated drivers for your cam.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.


Maybe my statement is wrong.
Most likely it leaves it for next time USB device connection.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

OK, let me know to-morrow.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys,
right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that
works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum USB,
HKEY Local
Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and reinstall
the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98) couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.



















  #13  
Old February 28th 05, 05:26 AM
Ted
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Hi peter,

It is Cyber Shot DSC P41.
Works OK in one XP machine.
But no luck with the XP I want it to work on.
Removing the VID and re-installing software worked fine.
But the second time I plugged in the USB, XP crashed
with error:
0x00000050 (0xFFFFFFE8 0x80511098 0x00000000)
Restarted computer and the camera worked OK, until
I remove it and insert it a second time.

I looked in MS Knowledge Base, found no related articles.
except may be because the HP USB printer is unplugged ??

Thanks

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
news
Ted,

Yes, uninstall device from device manager would not delete the registry
keys.
You should not delete the registry key unless the drivers of that USB
device
was improperly loaded or could not be loaded.

I have two digicams, Sony and Canon, both working flawlessly with my two
XP
Pro SP2 machines.

BTW, let me know the model and driver version of your Sony digicam. There
may be updated drivers for your cam.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.


Maybe my statement is wrong.
Most likely it leaves it for next time USB device connection.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

OK, let me know to-morrow.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys,
right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works
again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is
something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that
works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum
USB,
HKEY Local
Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and
reinstall
the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98)
couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but
no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.





















  #14  
Old February 28th 05, 09:23 AM
Peter
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Ted,

Below are the links for drivers update and FAQ:
http://esupport.sony.com/perl/swu-li...=EN&mdl=DSCP41
http://esupport.sony.com/perl/faq-mo...=EN&mdl=DSCP41

Your digicam should be USB 2.0, are you using USB2.0 for connection?
If yes, is it an onboard USB2.0 chips or PCI USB 2.0 card?
I think it is an onboard USB chips as you said you have unpluged the HP
printer.
For older mobo over 4 years, it only has limited USB ports (may be only 2
USB 1.0 ports)
Well, I don't think the unplug of USB printer would cause problems.
It may be caused by the mobo BIOS or I/O chipset drivers.
I would suggest you to update the mobo chipset drivers first and if the
symptom persists, update the mobo BIOS as well. Special care should be taken
for BIOS update as an improper update of BIOS may turn your PC to a dead
stone and the repair charges is expensive. Load setup default after updated
BIOS and then adjust the BIOS to suit your requirements.

Note: you may also need to change the battery on the mobo if it is over 3
years.
In some cases, the CMOS cause troubles if the battery is too weak.

BTW, if you does not have sufficient USB 2.0 ports to connect all your USB
devices,
I would suggest you to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card (prefer to use NEC chipset for
mobo using intel chipsets, for mobo using VIA chipsets, you may buy the USB
card using VIA chipsets as it is a little bit cheaper). A 4+1 port USB 2.0
card with NEC chipsets cost only about $10.- to $15.-

Let me know the outcome.

Peter




"Ted" wrote:

Hi peter,

It is Cyber Shot DSC P41.
Works OK in one XP machine.
But no luck with the XP I want it to work on.
Removing the VID and re-installing software worked fine.
But the second time I plugged in the USB, XP crashed
with error:
0x00000050 (0xFFFFFFE8 0x80511098 0x00000000)
Restarted computer and the camera worked OK, until
I remove it and insert it a second time.

I looked in MS Knowledge Base, found no related articles.
except may be because the HP USB printer is unplugged ??

Thanks

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
news
Ted,

Yes, uninstall device from device manager would not delete the registry
keys.
You should not delete the registry key unless the drivers of that USB
device
was improperly loaded or could not be loaded.

I have two digicams, Sony and Canon, both working flawlessly with my two
XP
Pro SP2 machines.

BTW, let me know the model and driver version of your Sony digicam. There
may be updated drivers for your cam.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.

Maybe my statement is wrong.
Most likely it leaves it for next time USB device connection.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

OK, let me know to-morrow.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid keys,
right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works
again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is
something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera, that
works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the Enum
USB,
HKEY Local
Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and
reinstall
the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98)
couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver, but
no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry cleaning
or changing that have to be done.






















  #15  
Old February 28th 05, 04:56 PM
Ted
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default USB device never work if driver not installed first

Hi Peter,

I would suggest you to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card

I think I will try that first before updating the BIOS.
The computer is about three years old, with onboard 2 USB1
slots.
I do have an extra 4 slot USB2 PCI card, that I will install.
I think it should take care of it, will let you know.

Thanks again.

Ted






"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Below are the links for drivers update and FAQ:
http://esupport.sony.com/perl/swu-li...=EN&mdl=DSCP41
http://esupport.sony.com/perl/faq-mo...=EN&mdl=DSCP41

Your digicam should be USB 2.0, are you using USB2.0 for connection?
If yes, is it an onboard USB2.0 chips or PCI USB 2.0 card?
I think it is an onboard USB chips as you said you have unpluged the HP
printer.
For older mobo over 4 years, it only has limited USB ports (may be only 2
USB 1.0 ports)
Well, I don't think the unplug of USB printer would cause problems.
It may be caused by the mobo BIOS or I/O chipset drivers.
I would suggest you to update the mobo chipset drivers first and if the
symptom persists, update the mobo BIOS as well. Special care should be
taken
for BIOS update as an improper update of BIOS may turn your PC to a dead
stone and the repair charges is expensive. Load setup default after
updated
BIOS and then adjust the BIOS to suit your requirements.

Note: you may also need to change the battery on the mobo if it is over 3
years.
In some cases, the CMOS cause troubles if the battery is too weak.

BTW, if you does not have sufficient USB 2.0 ports to connect all your USB
devices,
I would suggest you to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card (prefer to use NEC chipset
for
mobo using intel chipsets, for mobo using VIA chipsets, you may buy the
USB
card using VIA chipsets as it is a little bit cheaper). A 4+1 port USB 2.0
card with NEC chipsets cost only about $10.- to $15.-

Let me know the outcome.

Peter




"Ted" wrote:

Hi peter,

It is Cyber Shot DSC P41.
Works OK in one XP machine.
But no luck with the XP I want it to work on.
Removing the VID and re-installing software worked fine.
But the second time I plugged in the USB, XP crashed
with error:
0x00000050 (0xFFFFFFE8 0x80511098 0x00000000)
Restarted computer and the camera worked OK, until
I remove it and insert it a second time.

I looked in MS Knowledge Base, found no related articles.
except may be because the HP USB printer is unplugged ??

Thanks

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
news
Ted,

Yes, uninstall device from device manager would not delete the registry
keys.
You should not delete the registry key unless the drivers of that USB
device
was improperly loaded or could not be loaded.

I have two digicams, Sony and Canon, both working flawlessly with my
two
XP
Pro SP2 machines.

BTW, let me know the model and driver version of your Sony digicam.
There
may be updated drivers for your cam.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.

Maybe my statement is wrong.
Most likely it leaves it for next time USB device connection.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

OK, let me know to-morrow.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

I got it, thanks.
It seems when the device is uninstalled from the device manager,
it fails to remove it from the registry.
I don't have the Sony Camera, I will get it tomorrow and try
install it again. Will let you know.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Try run regedit as follows:

HKEY Local machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB,
double click the USB folder, found the Vid keys that relevant to
the
device
that you want to delete and than delete the whole Vid keys.
If errors occurred that you couldn't allow to delete the Vid
keys,
right
click on the Vid key, click permissions, select Full control in
the
Permissions for Everyone area, click Apply and OK.
Now try to delete the Vid keys again.
Ca export the registries and save to a specific folder before
any
deletion.

Hope it helps.

Peter


"Ted" wrote:

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

I did the Uninstall hardware from Device Manager and rebooted.
You said Or, figured I don't need to remove it from registry.
I get error deleting the VID keys.
It also has USBStor with all the USB drives that I installed
in the past, but non will delete.
I have full administrator permission to edit registry.




"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

I meant have you run regedit to clear the invalid Vid keys?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hi Peter,

Have you tried what I have suggested?
Ops apologies, I have done that many times, that is why
I posted the first message.

Ted


"Peter" wrote in message
...
Ted,

Have you tried what I have suggested?

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

Hello Peter,

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB
host
controller
and
then reboot.

I believe its a bug in Win XP, I think above never works
again,
unless you do it right from the beginning.
I had to return the ADS and LG drive thinking there is
something
wrong with the devices, but still have the Sony camera,
that
works
one computer but not on the one that I want it to work on.

Ted

"Peter" wrote in message
...
HI,

You can clear the registry by running regedit on the
Enum
USB,
HKEY Local
Machine/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Enum/USB/Vid_xxxxxxxxxxx
Find the Vid for your device and delete the keys.
Backup the regtistry before deletion.

Or, simply go to device manager and uninstall the USB
host
controller
and
then reboot. Windows shhould found new hardware and
reinstall
the
USB
drivers.
Ca disconnect the USB devices before uninstall.

Hope it helps.

Peter

"Ted" wrote:

I made the mistake by plugging a USB device before
installing the driver, Win XP with SP2 (and Win 98)
couldn't
detect
the device and installed the wrong driver for it.
I uninstalled the driver, installed the device driver,
but
no
way
you can get the device to work ever again.
This happened to me on Sony camera, ADS drive kit, and
external LG DVD/RW.
Anybody knows how to reset windows without restoring
the registry and start fresh ? Maybe a registry
cleaning
or changing that have to be done.
























 




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