Desktop E-mail client ?

Nil wrote:
Mike Easter Wrote in message:

And runasxp asks for/ requires/ a donation for the 'installation
key'.

"(Outlook Express is only available for Runasxp.com Donors.
Installation key requied. Please donate to support our forum and get
3 Installation Keys.) "

Wow, what a scam. Sounds like the same operation that calls you
up and volunteers to "cure" your computer viruses... for a
"donation".

It is not a scam, the program works just fine. I just checked the page and
found no mention of a donation being required. Nor of an install key being
needed.

I d/l the install and started it. No mention of an install key but I did
not let the install complete as I already have it installed and it has been
so for almost two years. When I installed it one had to be a member of
runasXP to d/l it; any easy requirement to fulfil and there have been zero
repercussions - not even email - in doing so.

On 2/10/2016 10:25 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:37:22 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

On 2/9/2016 1:44 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:

In another thread, I complained that my printer's "scan to e-mail"
feature wouldn't work, because, the printer company's help folks said,
my e-mail client wasn't completely installed on the computer. Web based
e-mail clients were not acceptable.
So what is a good, freeware hopefully, such client? Outlook Express
claims to be until one tries to download, then one finds that a
"donation" to a specified address is needed!
Thanks.

You are posting with an e-mail client:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/38.5.1

I find no self contained e-mail client in my T'bird.
It simply asks me to list clients such as AOl Hotmail
etc.

You need to setup your email account in Thunderbird:

Tools - Account Settings - Account Actions - Add Mail Account

After you setup your email account in Thunderbird, you then need to set TB as your default email client:

Tools - Options - Advanced - General - select "Always check to see is Thunderbird is the default email
client on startup"

Now your email account is established in Thunderbird and it should accept attachments from your scanners MAPI
interface.

But that's the whole point. My e-mail account is not in T'bird.
T'bird just goes there to get mail. You cannot set up an account
that resided in T'bird.

On 2/10/2016 1:19 PM, Nil wrote:
Mike Easter wrote in
:

Yes, that would /work/; but it means that the OP would have to
make 'behavioral changes', which it seems to me that he might
'struggle with' given his perception of how things work.

Currently he is accustomed to 'AOL means email' and he is
accustomed to the AOL interface for his email.

If he changes to Tb as his default email client, it WON'T be AOL
ware.

Tho AOL can do IMAP, so Thunderbird can do AOL.

I'm not sure that is going to make him happy.

I think he's happy jerking people around.

I'm not "jerking anyone around". I'm too old to play childish games.
I simply am stating a fact. T'bird is not a resident e-mail client
so that one could send mail to oldguy@thunderbied.

On 2/10/2016 1:31 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
In article , , Pfsszxt says...

On 2/10/2016 1:07 PM, Dave Doe wrote:
In article , lid, Mike
Easter says...

Dave Doe wrote:
What make n' model is it?

Just that most of 'em have an SMTP setup,

This one wants to use the system's smtp client softwa

HP3830 p.54: "Choose Email as PDF or Email as JPEG to open your email
software with the scanned file as an attachment."

... where the/your 'email software' is NOT expected to be AOL's webmail
gizmo/stuff.

Ah, thanks. Well we're back to T.bird then. Should work just fine.

T'bird isn't a resident e-mail client. It fetches e-mail from
accounts one names or, for a price, will let you sign up to the client
"Gandhi" (spelling?).
Do you know anyone with a Thunderbird e-mail address?

Set up your AOL account on Thunderbird and give it a whirl.

AOL guff on that...
https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do...plications-to-
send-and-receive-my-aol-mail

Maybe a better third party article...
http://email.about.com/od/accessinga...P_Settings.htm

I think you'll like it! Web mail's a bit sucky really!

This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.
The printer company's folks told me I had to have "Outlook"
for that function to work.

Since then, this thread has wandered everywhere!

| But that's the whole point. My e-mail account is not in T'bird.
| T'bird just goes there to get mail. You cannot set up an account
| that resided in T'bird.

AOL was a whole package for people who
didn't understand computers. Their browser
and email were all wrapped up into one,
though their browser was actually just IE
in costume with most of the settings hidden.

Email doesn't actually work that way. An email
address is like phone service. You get your phone
number from Verizon, AT&T, etc. You get your
email address from gmail, AOL, your ISP, your own
domain, etc. The email software, such as TBird, is
like your telephone. It lets you use email. It is not,
in itself, email.

If you have an email account you can set it up
in TBird. Just search online at your ISP or other
email provider. They all generally have directions
for setting up your account in different email
programs. What you probably want is POP3 and
SMTP set up, if you want to get email on your
computer rather than in a webpage online.

If you don't have an email account, or want a new
one, then you need to get one. Your options:

*Free webmail -- gmail, outlook.com, yahoo, etc.
Those services usually show ads and spy on your
email, in exchange for no cost. Most can be set
up in an email program like TBird, but some still
require that you use their Web interface.

* Pay services -- Real email can be had for a couple
of dollars per month.

* ISP - virtually all ISPs provide at least one email
address for free with your account.

* Your own domain -- You can own a domain and
host it for a few dollars per month. You can then
set up a website or not. Either way, you'll usually
get lots of email addresses at your domain. (Caveat:
Some cheap hosts may not provide full email service,
and some sub out to sleazeware like gmail.)

Pfsszxt has brought this to us :
On 2/10/2016 1:19 PM, Nil wrote:
Mike Easter wrote in
:

Yes, that would /work/; but it means that the OP would have to
make 'behavioral changes', which it seems to me that he might
'struggle with' given his perception of how things work.

Currently he is accustomed to 'AOL means email' and he is
accustomed to the AOL interface for his email.

If he changes to Tb as his default email client, it WON'T be AOL
ware.

Tho AOL can do IMAP, so Thunderbird can do AOL.

I'm not sure that is going to make him happy.

I think he's happy jerking people around.

I'm not "jerking anyone around". I'm too old to play childish games.

You'll be even older tomorrow, so I'll try to be quick.

I simply am stating a fact. T'bird is not a resident e-mail client

Yes it is, so your *fact* is in error.

so that one could send mail to oldguy@thunderbied.

Of course you can't, oldguy would have to have a "server" supporting a
mailbox with that non-compliant domain name (no TLD).

Pfsszxt wrote:
This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.

That is correct.

The printer company's folks told me I had to have "Outlook"
for that function to work.

That is not *exactly* correct; either the HP support mis-spoke or you
misunderstood.

Another way of mentioning Outlook: You could have Outlook (or Outlook
Express) or Thunderbird or Claws or any of a number of other agents
which are actually smtp mail agents for that HP function to work. Your
AOL software isn't.

Any of those agents could receive and send email with your aol.com using
AOL's servers. None of that has anything to do with any such imaginary
thing as thunderbird.com.


--
Mike Easter

Pfsszxt wrote in :

I'm not "jerking anyone around". I'm too old to play childish
games.

One is never too old to play childish games - this thread is proof of
that.

I simply am stating a fact. T'bird is not a resident e-mail client
so that one could send mail to oldguy@thunderbied.

That's your fiction (lie), not a fact.

Pfsszxt wrote in :

This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.

This is a different thread, and you know it. Please, do try keep your
lies straight.

On of dollars per month.

* ISP - virtually all ISPs provide at least one email
address for free with your account.

* Your own domain -- You can own a domain and
host it for a few dollars per month. You can then
set up a website or not. Either way, you'll usually
get lots of email addresses at your domain. (Caveat:
Some cheap hosts may not provide full email service,
and some sub out to sleazeware like gmail.)


You're missing the whole point here! What stated
this whole minagarie was my gripe: My new HP printer
won't do the "scan to computer" option unless I have
a "resident" -- that is: installed on my computer
--- e-mail client. I have such--AOL--but it won't
the printer won't recognize AOL ---. HP folks said
I must have Outlook (A $150 client).
Folks here doubted me and this whole zoo has since
developed!

On 2/11/2016 9:19 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:02:24 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

On 2/10/2016 10:25 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:37:22 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

On 2/9/2016 1:44 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:

In another thread, I complained that my printer's "scan to e-mail"
feature wouldn't work, because, the printer company's help folks said,
my e-mail client wasn't completely installed on the computer. Web based
e-mail clients were not acceptable.
So what is a good, freeware hopefully, such client? Outlook Express
claims to be until one tries to download, then one finds that a
"donation" to a specified address is needed!

But that's the whole point. My e-mail account is not in T'bird.
T'bird just goes there to get mail. You cannot set up an account
that resided in T'bird.

Heh, heh........ good one, you got me to take you seriously for a moment......

Off to the bit bucket with you!


you doubt me ---? Try it! Try to set up an account which resides in
T'bird.

On 2/11/2016 9:48 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Pfsszxt has brought this to us :
On 2/10/2016 1:19 PM, Nil wrote:
Mike Easter wrote in
:

Yes, that would /work/; but it means that the OP would have to
make 'behavioral changes', which it seems to me that he might
'struggle with' given his perception of how things work.

Currently he is accustomed to 'AOL means email' and he is
accustomed to the AOL interface for his email.

If he changes to Tb as his default email client, it WON'T be AOL
ware.

Tho AOL can do IMAP, so Thunderbird can do AOL.

I'm not sure that is going to make him happy.

I think he's happy jerking people around.

I'm not "jerking anyone around". I'm too old to play childish games.

You'll be even older tomorrow, so I'll try to be quick.

I simply am stating a fact. T'bird is not a resident e-mail client

Yes it is, so your *fact* is in error.

so that one could send mail to oldguy@thunderbied.

Of course you can't, oldguy would have to have a "server" supporting a
mailbox with that non-compliant domain name (no TLD).

You doubt me? Then I challenge you. You're so sure --so go try to
set up an e-mail account which is resident in T'bird.

On 2/11/2016 12:19 PM, Nil wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote in :

I'm not "jerking anyone around". I'm too old to play childish
games.

One is never too old to play childish games - this thread is proof of
that.

I simply am stating a fact. T'bird is not a resident e-mail client
so that one could send mail to oldguy@thunderbied.

That's your fiction (lie), not a fact.

well, I'll challenge you--try it your self. Go set up an e-mail
account which is in fact resident in T'bird. Simple right?

On 2/11/2016 11:04 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:
This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.

That is correct.

The printer company's folks told me I had to have "Outlook"
for that function to work.

That is not *exactly* correct; either the HP support mis-spoke or you
misunderstood.

Another way of mentioning Outlook: You could have Outlook (or Outlook
Express) or Thunderbird or Claws or any of a number of other agents
which are actually smtp mail agents for that HP function to work. Your
AOL software isn't.

Here's a challeng. Get Outlook Express1!! :-). It doesn't exist now.
Any of those agents could receive and send email with your aol.com using
AOL's servers. None of that has anything to do with any such imaginary
thing as thunderbird.com.

I know that ---but several folks claimed I could use Thunderbird as a
resident--
e-mail client. It is an e-mail client at all --it simply gets contents
from e-mail
clients one names.

On 2/11/2016 12:21 PM, Nil wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote in :

This whols thread has wandered far from my original gripe.
That is: my HP printer won't do it's "scan to e-mail" function
because it will not accept my resident AOL as acceptable.

This is a different thread, and you know it. Please, do try keep your
lies straight.

Not so --- back it up to the beginning and look!