My claim

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

Pfsszxt wrote:
Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

The best thing you can do is stay away from computers.

--
John Q. Public

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.


Paul and Nil are far too smart to fall for your bull****.

However, you can probably continue to **** with Easter for a while
longer......

Pfsszxt wrote:
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.

You *could* setup an account for your aol.com mailbox and get all of
your aol.com mail in Tb by POP or IMAP and send mail using AOL's smtp
server, not webmail.

You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something called
"gandi.net" (spelling?).

There is a gandi.net promotional offering in Tb's new account wizard
which should be ignored/bypassed.

You cannot get an account with a T'bird address.

Correct.

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

That is because you have a delusional concept of that term and you
should not use it here nor should anyone else in trying to communicate
with you about this.


--
Mike Easter

Pfsszxt wrote:
Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

If you can manage to ignore the adverts on this page,
I think this'll show you how to do AOL mail on Thunderbird.
No Gandi needed.

http://technet2u.com/setup-aol-email...a-thunderbird/

Create a new account

FirstName LastName

(password)

IMAP (remote folders) --- radio button, email stays on AOL server,
so the email can be accessed by more than
one generic client program.

And notice that the author of that article has cheated.
Since AOL.com is a large email provider, Thunderbird
apparently already has some information about it. So
you didn't have to add

imap.aol.com SSL --- incoming mail
smtp.aol.com STARTTLS --- outgoing mail

When you have an isp.com type of email, then you
generally have to enter the pop3.isp.com or imap.isp.com
types of addresses yourself.

On my first broadband ISP, they gave me a nice looking
card, with all the necessary addresses neatly printed
on the card. That ISP was quite large (3 million subscribers),
so email was spread over multiple servers. And you had
to point the email client at the correct server

imap47.isp.com

If you didn't point it at the correct numbered unit,
none of the other email servers had the account
details, and would ignore you. So in some cases,
getting the correct address is pretty important. But
the above article relies on Thunderbird finding aol.com
in its list of "famous" email sources.

Paul

on Mon 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14a, Pfsszxt wrote in alt.windows7.general:

Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

The domain "thunderbird.com" belongs to a real estate company in
California. Tell you what: you go and get me a job there, which should
then allow me an email address on their mail server, and then I'll set
up an account for it in Thunderbird. Deal?

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

Only a complete moron would really believe that.

Pfsszxt wrote:
Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

That's because you don't understand the difference between SET UP an account
and GET/CREATE an account.

SET UP means that you provide the information - user name, password, etc. -
the client (Thunderbird, OE, Claws, Sylpheed, etc.) needs to access an
EXISTING account at some email server. In your case, that would be your AOL
account; for someone else it could be Verizon or some other server from
which they get their email.

GET/CREATE an account means to create a new account at some server.
Thunderbird is offering you the opportunity to GET an account at ghandi.net.
That does NOT mean you HAVE to do that, you can simply ignore the offer and
conntinue on to SET UP your existing account.

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

Well, you are wrong as many people have told you many times.

On 2/15/2016 11:09 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:
Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

That's because you don't understand the difference between SET UP an account
and GET/CREATE an account.

SET UP means that you provide the information - user name, password, etc. -
the client (Thunderbird, OE, Claws, Sylpheed, etc.) needs to access an
EXISTING account at some email server. In your case, that would be your AOL
account; for someone else it could be Verizon or some other server from
which they get their email.

GET/CREATE an account means to create a new account at some server.
Thunderbird is offering you the opportunity to GET an account at ghandi.net.
That does NOT mean you HAVE to do that, you can simply ignore the offer and
conntinue on to SET UP your existing account.

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

Well, you are wrong as many people have told you many times.




pfsszxt, why don't you just run along and play with your Abacus,

Rene

On 02/15/2016 10:56 AM, Mike Easter wrote:

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

That is because you have a delusional concept of that term and you
should not use it here nor should anyone else in trying to communicate
with you about this.

To help emphasize and maybe explain in a different viewpoint?:
Thunderbird is resident on your computer. But it is not an email
SERVER in such that it can provide an email address. It's a CLIENT.

The two words CLIENT and SERVER go hand in hand.
AOL/Google/Hotmail/Outlook/Verizon/Xfinity/whatever... are SERVERS and
will supply you an email address. You then use the CLIENT Thunderbird to
pull that mail.

CLIENTS are usually resident on YOUR machine, and SERVERS are elsewhere.

I don't want to get into that fact that you can maybe load a mail server
on your machine too and supply both services, but the headaches of
supporting a SERVER is a lot for most people.

Big Al wrote:
a different viewpoint

One viewpoint that the OP holds is that there is a 'thing' which thing
consists of an email provider with a same named mailbox/ email address/
and same named software which software can be installed on one's
computer and then chosen to be the/ Windows/ default email client and
then used to send and receive email.

And, that Tb is NOT such a thing because it can't do/ fulfill/ all of
those things/criteria.

--
Mike Easter

On 02/15/2016 10:39 AM, Nil wrote:
on Mon 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14a, Pfsszxt wrote in alt.windows7.general:

Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

The domain "thunderbird.com" belongs to a real estate company in
California. Tell you what: you go and get me a job there, which should
then allow me an email address on their mail server, and then I'll set
up an account for it in Thunderbird. Deal?

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

Only a complete moron would really believe that.




I disagree. I think even an /incomplete/ moron would believe that

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

omg

I just created a kill filter for Subject: Desktop E-mail client ? (160
postings and still going) and now you're starting a new thread? Oh well,
maybe it'll convince other posters that you are indeed a troll... Bye!

--
s|b

On 02/15/2016 01:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Big Al wrote:
a different viewpoint

One viewpoint that the OP holds is that there is a 'thing' which thing
consists of an email provider with a same named mailbox/ email
address/ and same named software which software can be installed on
one's computer and then chosen to be the/ Windows/ default email
client and then used to send and receive email.

And, that Tb is NOT such a thing because it can't do/ fulfill/ all of
those things/criteria.

No argument here. I wonder who told him this story. He ought to go back
there and have that person fix him up.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.

There's NO such option.

There IS 'Get a new mail account',
followed by 'use existing mail account'.

Big Al wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
Big Al wrote:
a different viewpoint

One viewpoint that the OP holds is that there is a 'thing' which
thing consists of an email provider with a same named mailbox/
email address/ and same named software which software can be
installed on one's computer and then chosen to be the/ Windows/
default email client and then used to send and receive email.

And, that Tb is NOT such a thing because it can't do/ fulfill/ all of
those things/criteria.

No argument here. I wonder who told him this story. He ought to go back
there and have that person fix him up.

It is rumored that there is some kind of 'brain rot' (maybe brain
conditioning would be a better term) or something that afflicts people
who install AOL ware that causes them to see things like the internet
and email 'differently' than everyone else. AOLers.

There are also similar rumors about some other softwares that likewise
affect their users in each one's own way.

It must somehow be related to the usage affecting the perspective. If
you wear some optically tricked-out glasses which turn the world upside
down to your vision, you can get yourself adjusted/condtioned to that.
Once so conditioned, if you take the glasses off the world looks upside
down to you.

--
Mike Easter