My claim

In message , Pfsszxt writes:
Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge.

Paul and Nil are too wise to fall for this (-:

Prove me wrong.

We don't need to prove that, any more than we need to prove that black
is white or hot is cold.

Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?).

So don't try that option! Try the one to set up an existing email
account. (I don't know the exact words since I don't have TB on this
machine.)

You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

Why would I want one? If I were to set up Turnpike, Eudora, or Pegasus,
I wouldn't expect to get an @Turnpike, @Eudora, or @Pegasus address. I'd
expect to be able to access mail to my EXISTING address, by using those
programs: that's why I would be setting them up.

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

Because you don't grasp what that phrase means. (Or are trolling.)

That's all I've ever claimed.

Wrongly. It IS an email client. (Even outside computing, you wouldn't
expect a "client" to _provide_ something to a company; you'd expect the
company to provide things to the client. In this case, AOL is the
company, and it would provide emails - addressed to - to
whatever client you choose to collect them with.)
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"s|b" wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

I just created a kill filter for Subject: Desktop E-mail client ?
(160 postings and still going) and now you're starting a new
thread? Oh well, maybe it'll convince other posters that you are
indeed a troll... Bye!

And you're feeding it! Bad s|b! G

Sorry, I'm as guilty as everyone else... SIGH

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I know the below instructions work because I have an AOL address
of my own set up in Thunderbird that way.


Paul Wrote in message:

If you can manage to ignore the adverts on this page,
I think this'll show you how to do AOL mail on Thunderbird.
No Gandi needed.

http://technet2u.com/setup-aol-email...a-thunderbird/

Create a new account

FirstName LastName

(password)

IMAP (remote folders) --- radio button, email stays on AOL server,
so the email can be accessed by more than
one generic client program.

And notice that the author of that article has cheated.
Since AOL.com is a large email provider, Thunderbird
apparently already has some information about it. So
you didn't have to add

imap.aol.com SSL --- incoming mail
smtp.aol.com STARTTLS --- outgoing mail

When you have an isp.com type of email, then you
generally have to enter the pop3.isp.com or imap.isp.com
types of addresses yourself.

On my first broadband ISP, they gave me a nice looking
card, with all the necessary addresses neatly printed
on the card. That ISP was quite large (3 million subscribers),
so email was spread over multiple servers. And you had
to point the email client at the correct server

imap47.isp.com

If you didn't point it at the correct numbered unit,
none of the other email servers had the account
details, and would ignore you. So in some cases,
getting the correct address is pretty important. But
the above article relies on Thunderbird finding aol.com
in its list of "famous" email sources.

Paul

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On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:51:21 -0800, Mike Easter
wrote:


It must somehow be related to the usage affecting the perspective. If
you wear some optically tricked-out glasses which turn the world upside
down to your vision, you can get yourself adjusted/condtioned to that.
Once so conditioned, if you take the glasses off the world looks upside
down to you.

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Mike Easter

Yes, I read that book. Very interesting. Called _Seeing and
Knowing_ or _To See and to Know_ iirc.

If you wait several days, the world will eventually look right side up
again, and if you then put the glasses back on, it will look upside
down for a while. The time periods decrease, and after several
cycles, the world looks right side up whether you are wearing the
glases or not!

The book describes several other such experiments, with right and
left, etc. I wish I coudl remember more of it .

It might be this book
http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-knowing...ng+and+knowing
but it might not be. There are ttwo other books by the same name that
are clearly not it, and there is no description of this one.

I got it from the main Brooklyn Public Library, but that was 40 years
ago. Still, if anyone from NYC woudl lend me there online ID for the
BPL, I would check.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:23:33 -0600, philo wrote:

On 02/15/2016 10:39 AM, Nil wrote:
on Mon 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14a, Pfsszxt wrote in alt.windows7.general:

Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

The domain "thunderbird.com" belongs to a real estate company in
California. Tell you what: you go and get me a job there, which should
then allow me an email address on their mail server, and then I'll set
up an account for it in Thunderbird. Deal?

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

Only a complete moron would really believe that.


I disagree. I think even an /incomplete/ moron would believe that

Is this what that girl meant on Valentine's Day when she told me, "You
complete me."?

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address.

Of course not.

I use Eudora as my resident email client, but that doesn't mean I have
a Eudora address. The only people who have one work for Eudora.

In the case of Thunderbird, it's a water company in the southwest, I
read. They probably have thunderbird addresses for employees.

That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".

To you, but not to others.

That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

Micky wrote:

In the case of Thunderbird, it's a water company in the southwest

Thunderbird is also a beverage.

http://consumerist.com/2008/06/10/th...-to-get-drunk/

"Thunderbird

It is a "fortified wine" and typically contains 17.5% alcohol.
Thunderbird was introduced by Ernest and Julio Gallo Winery
after the end of prohibition. It was marketed to low income
drinkers in America. Despite its yellow color, Thunderbird
turns your lips and tongue black when consumed in large quantities.
"

That's when you take a swig of your chaser.
And that article doesn't even scratch the
surface on abusable consumer goods.

Why, I remember riding the transit bus to high
school, while watching a girl from the same
high school as me *drinking* cough syrup.
I guess that would be "robo". I think her
name was Debbie Downer. That far back in time,
robo wasn't all that popular. I mean, why waste
your time going to school if you're going
to do that.

HTH,
Paul

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 02:27:33 -0500, Paul wrote:

Micky wrote:

In the case of Thunderbird, it's a water company in the southwest

Thunderbird is also a beverage.


What's the Word, THUNDERBIRD.

What's the price, 99 TWICE!


Yeah, I was around in the 60s.

On 2/15/2016 7:04 AM, Pfsszxt wrote:
Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

And for your part how about you call HP back and ask them for
instructions on configuring Thunderbird, once you install it.

On 2/15/2016 11:13 AM, s|b wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

omg

I just created a kill filter for Subject: Desktop E-mail client ? (160
postings and still going) and now you're starting a new thread? Oh well,
maybe it'll convince other posters that you are indeed a troll... Bye!

LOL Is it possible to create a kill file in Thunderbird 38.6.0?

The New Other Guy wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 02:27:33 -0500, Paul wrote:

Micky wrote:

In the case of Thunderbird, it's a water company in the southwest
Thunderbird is also a beverage.


What's the Word, THUNDERBIRD.

What's the price, 99 TWICE!


Yeah, I was around in the 60s.

Seems every country has got one...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavored_fortified_wines

Who needs Thunderbird, when you can re-enforce
your own wine ? Excellent after a day of skiing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulled_wine

Paul

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 01:44:49 -0800, Mike S wrote:

I just created a kill filter for Subject: Desktop E-mail client ? (160
postings and still going) and now you're starting a new thread? Oh well,
maybe it'll convince other posters that you are indeed a troll... Bye!

LOL Is it possible to create a kill file in Thunderbird 38.6.0?

Absolutely.

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:17:01 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2016-02-16 04:44, Mike S wrote:
On 2/15/2016 11:13 AM, s|b wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

omg

I just created a kill filter for Subject: Desktop E-mail client ? (160
postings and still going) and now you're starting a new thread? Oh well,
maybe it'll convince other posters that you are indeed a troll... Bye!

LOL Is it possible to create a kill file in Thunderbird 38.6.0?

Tools - Message filters

actually, messagecreate filter from message..

On 2/15/2016 11:04 PM, Nil wrote:
I know the below instructions work because I have an AOL address
of my own set up in Thunderbird that way.


Paul Wrote in message:

If you can manage to ignore the adverts on this page,
I think this'll show you how to do AOL mail on Thunderbird.
No Gandi needed.

http://technet2u.com/setup-aol-email...a-thunderbird/

Create a new account

FirstName LastName

(password)

IMAP (remote folders) --- radio button, email stays on AOL server,
so the email can be accessed by more than
one generic client program.

And notice that the author of that article has cheated.
Since AOL.com is a large email provider, Thunderbird
apparently already has some information about it. So
you didn't have to add

imap.aol.com SSL --- incoming mail
smtp.aol.com STARTTLS --- outgoing mail

When you have an isp.com type of email, then you
generally have to enter the pop3.isp.com or imap.isp.com
types of addresses yourself.

On my first broadband ISP, they gave me a nice looking
card, with all the necessary addresses neatly printed
on the card. That ISP was quite large (3 million subscribers),
so email was spread over multiple servers. And you had
to point the email client at the correct server

imap47.isp.com

If you didn't point it at the correct numbered unit,
none of the other email servers had the account
details, and would ignore you. So in some cases,
getting the correct address is pretty important. But
the above article relies on Thunderbird finding aol.com
in its list of "famous" email sources.

Paul

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc. That's my
definition of a resident e-mail client account.
I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.
I have T'bird set up to access an old Hotmail account
I've used only for business stuff, and could use it to
access my home AOL account.

Pfsszxt Wrote in message:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc

All you gotta do is get your real estate license and move to Santa
Cruz. Easy peasy!

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

"You think"? Surely you jest.





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