My claim

Pfsszxt wrote:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.

Same old wrong assumption.

I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird

I have 15 email addresses using five different email services accessed and
processed by Thunderbird, and not a single one of them is a "Thunderbird"
address.

That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc.

There is no such thing, as you've been told soooo many times.

That's my definition of a resident e-mail client account.

Your definition is wrong.

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

It has not been ignored. You've been told you are wrong!

I have T'bird set up to access an old Hotmail account

Wow, really? Why don't you do the same for your AOL account???

I've used only for business stuff, and could use it to access my home
AOL account.

Well, then. Just *DO* it! And stop acting like a dumbass.

Do you still have the box your computer came in?

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

On 2/16/2016 2:00 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.

Same old wrong assumption.

I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird

I have 15 email addresses using five different email services accessed and
processed by Thunderbird, and not a single one of them is a "Thunderbird"
address.

That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc.

There is no such thing, as you've been told soooo many times.

That's my definition of a resident e-mail client account.

Your definition is wrong.

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

It has not been ignored. You've been told you are wrong!

I have T'bird set up to access an old Hotmail account

Wow, really? Why don't you do the same for your AOL account???

I've used only for business stuff, and could use it to access my home
AOL account.

Well, then. Just *DO* it! And stop acting like a dumbass.


He's NOT acting.


Do you still have the box your computer came in?


The box IS his computer

Rene

Pfsszxt wrote:

I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.

Thunderbird is not a "canned" program limited to one ISP.

It's a "generic" program, and by using common protocols,
it can work with multiple (non-Thunderbird brand) email
providers.

Thunderbird client
aol.com --- supports multiple providers,
gmail.com --- all at the same time
myisp.com
...

I can have many accounts in Thunderbird, at the same time.
But absolutely none of them will say "thunderbird.com",
as Mozilla doesn't run a large public email service as
part of that program development. No attempt was made
to "can" it.

Thunderbird presents the silly "Gandi.net" proposal,
mainly in an attempt to get you to investigate what
an email provider is. I don't think that's a serious
attempt to "force" people to use Gandi. Most people
laugh when they see that promotion. So nobody really
takes that seriously. Many ISPs run their own email
server, so you generally have at least one fairly
good option there, right away. (The main benefit of
using your ISP email, is instead of 10,000 Google staff
reading the email, only a handful of ISP staff are
laughing ar your emails. You have a smaller crowd
to entertain.)

With the volume of email, and the shortage of staff
at your ISP, nobody really has the time to read all
the email. They only study your emails, if you are
abusing the service (spamming), a complaint comes in,
and they need to investigate.

Paul

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:13:18 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:



I have T'bird set up to access an old Hotmail account
I've used only for business stuff, and could use it to
access my home AOL account.


I find it nearly impossible to believe that anyone would pay you to do
anything. Just what kind of business are you in, religion?

Pfsszxt wrote:
I have T'bird set up to access an old Hotmail account
I've used only for business stuff, and could use it to
access my home AOL account.

Correct. The important considerations (whether to do that or not):

- would you like for Tb to be the default mail client to enable you to
use either/or hotmail/AOL in that same client
- would you like to be able to use your HP to scan something to
directly email to someone
- can you be happy with the changed mail user interface from what you
are accustomed to in the AOL desktop's to that of the Tb client's

I would say that the vast majority of people would rather use Tb as a
mail client than the AOL Desktop as a 'faux' mail client, but I also
know that there are some people who prefer to use AOL's ware over
everything else they know about.

Tb can be configured to put the hotmail and the AOL mail into the same
inbox or separately. AOL can be IMAP or POP. Hotmail can be IMAP or
POP. You can use either AOL's or Hotmail's server to send your mail out.

Get your mind off the concept of a thunderbird address or mail provider.
That is neither available nor desirable.


--
Mike Easter

In article , , Pfsszxt says...

On 2/15/2016 11:04 PM, Nil wrote:
I know the below instructions work because I have an AOL address
of my own set up in Thunderbird that way.


Paul Wrote in message:

If you can manage to ignore the adverts on this page,
I think this'll show you how to do AOL mail on Thunderbird.
No Gandi needed.

http://technet2u.com/setup-aol-email...a-thunderbird/

Create a new account

FirstName LastName

(password)

IMAP (remote folders) --- radio button, email stays on AOL server,
so the email can be accessed by more than
one generic client program.

And notice that the author of that article has cheated.
Since AOL.com is a large email provider, Thunderbird
apparently already has some information about it. So
you didn't have to add

imap.aol.com SSL --- incoming mail
smtp.aol.com STARTTLS --- outgoing mail

When you have an isp.com type of email, then you
generally have to enter the pop3.isp.com or imap.isp.com
types of addresses yourself.

On my first broadband ISP, they gave me a nice looking
card, with all the necessary addresses neatly printed
on the card. That ISP was quite large (3 million subscribers),
so email was spread over multiple servers. And you had
to point the email client at the correct server

imap47.isp.com

If you didn't point it at the correct numbered unit,
none of the other email servers had the account
details, and would ignore you. So in some cases,
getting the correct address is pretty important. But
the above article relies on Thunderbird finding aol.com
in its list of "famous" email sources.

Paul

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc. That's my
definition of a resident e-mail client account.

Stop being a dick. Your definition is clearly wrong.

But feel free to change all these pages (although I doubt your edits
will last long)...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar..._email_clients

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird


If you want to 'scan to email' on your HP printer, have a look at this
HP.com page...

http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04650547

quote...
"
Use this option to attach a non-editable scanned PDF text document to an
email message automatically using a local email client; a software
program installed on your computer that allows you to send and receive
email directly on your computer, such as Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla
Thunderbird.
"

--
Duncan.

In message , Pfsszxt writes:
[]
Paul

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.

You can't "get an account on" a piece of software; that's as meaningless
as trying to measure your height in pounds or your weight in feet.

I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird

Why do you want that?
[]
One that has a Thunderbird address etc. That's my
definition of a resident e-mail client account.

But not anyone else's definition.

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

You have; it hasn't been ignored - people have explained why it is
meaningless, which is not the same as ignoring you. The only way you are
going to get an email ADDRESS with Thunderbird in it is by getting a job
with a Californian estate agent (or a water company, apparently).

I have T'bird set up to access an old Hotmail account
I've used only for business stuff, and could use it to
access my home AOL account.

So why don't you?

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

The only way you are going to get an email ADDRESS with Thunderbird in
it is by getting a job with a Californian estate agent

"thunderbird.com"

(or a water company, apparently).

That one is "thunderbirdwater.com" so doesn't apply. :-)

[thunderbird.net is owned by Mozilla, and thunderbird.org is an Oklahoma
youth academy.]

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

Pfsszxt wrote:
On 2/16/2016 1:35 PM, Nil wrote:
Pfsszxt Wrote in message:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc

All you gotta do is get your real estate license and move to Santa
Cruz. Easy peasy!

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

"You think"? Surely you jest.

Cute, but ignores the issue.
I have T'bird set up to read my AOL mail--that's never
had anything to do with the question!
Tell me how to set up an account that is ON T"BIRD.
By that I mean an account so that my address
is Pfsszxt@thunderbird.***, and mail I send shows a T'bird
return address.
The question has been ignored throughout this whole
affair. And it's always been my only concern!


How does it feel to want and not get?

--
John Q. Public

On 2/16/2016 6:36 AM, The New Other Guy wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:17:01 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2016-02-16 04:44, Mike S wrote:
On 2/15/2016 11:13 AM, s|b wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:04:14 -0600, Pfsszxt wrote:

Challenge for Paul and Nil.:

You two are, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable regulars
here. So here's a challenge. Prove me wrong.
Simply go to T'bird and try the "set up an account" option.
You'll find that doing so gives you an account at something
called "gandi.net" (spelling?). You cannot get an account with a
T'bird address. That means to me that it's not a "resident e-mail client".
That's all I've ever claimed. Since then this whole screwed up
series of stuff has erupted. Little of it has to do with that issue.

omg

I just created a kill filter for Subject: Desktop E-mail client ? (160
postings and still going) and now you're starting a new thread? Oh well,
maybe it'll convince other posters that you are indeed a troll... Bye!

LOL Is it possible to create a kill file in Thunderbird 38.6.0?

Tools - Message filters

actually, messagecreate filter from message..

Thanks to both of you, checking it out now.

On 2/16/2016 1:35 PM, Nil wrote:
Pfsszxt Wrote in message:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc

All you gotta do is get your real estate license and move to Santa
Cruz. Easy peasy!

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

"You think"? Surely you jest.

Cute, but ignores the issue.
I have T'bird set up to read my AOL mail--that's never
had anything to do with the question!
Tell me how to set up an account that is ON T"BIRD.
By that I mean an account so that my address
is Pfsszxt@thunderbird.***, and mail I send shows a T'bird
return address.
The question has been ignored throughout this whole
affair. And it's always been my only concern!

In article , , Pfsszxt says...

On 2/16/2016 1:35 PM, Nil wrote:
Pfsszxt Wrote in message:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc

All you gotta do is get your real estate license and move to Santa
Cruz. Easy peasy!

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

"You think"? Surely you jest.

Cute, but ignores the issue.
I have T'bird set up to read my AOL mail--that's never
had anything to do with the question!
Tell me how to set up an account that is ON T"BIRD.
By that I mean an account so that my address
is Pfsszxt@thunderbird.***, and mail I send shows a T'bird
return address.
The question has been ignored throughout this whole
affair. And it's always been my only concern!

I'm putting you into the Bozo bin so I never have to read any of your
posts again. You are the complete idiot.

--
Duncan.

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 16:06:56 -0500, Paul wrote:


Thunderbird presents the silly "Gandi.net" proposal,
mainly in an attempt to get you to investigate what
an email provider is. I don't think that's a serious
attempt to "force" people to use Gandi. Most people
laugh when they see that promotion. So nobody really
takes that seriously. Many ISPs run their own email
server, so you generally have at least one fairly
good option there, right away. (The main benefit of
using your ISP email, is instead of 10,000 Google staff
reading the email, only a handful of ISP staff are
laughing ar your emails. You have a smaller crowd
to entertain.)

I do my best to make my email amusing. Maybe I should switch t o
google.

With the volume of email, and the shortage of staff
at your ISP, nobody really has the time to read all
the email. They only study your emails, if you are
abusing the service (spamming), a complaint comes in,
and they need to investigate.

Paul

Pfsszxt wrote:
Tell me how to set up an account that is ON T"BIRD.
By that I mean an account so that my address
is Pfsszxt@thunderbird.***, and mail I send shows a T'bird
return address.

You could go to gandi.net and buy a domain name registration with
thunderbird as the second level name.

Currently gandi has a promotional for thunderbird.click for $3.62 for
one year.

I can't find a good gandi link for whatever kind of relationship Tb has
with gandi to get something free for one year like the article I posted
earlier.

Once you buy thunderbird.click, you can have 5 free mailboxes for it.

Or you could shop around and see if you can find a registrar which has
some promotional deal where you get the name free for a year.


--
Mike Easter

Pfsszxt wrote:
On 2/16/2016 1:35 PM, Nil wrote:
Pfsszxt Wrote in message:

This tells me how to get T'bird set up so as to read my
AOL mail there --not how to get an account on T'bird.
I want someone who thinks it's it's possible to set
up an independent e-mail account on T'bird
That is, an account that does no use any other e-mail
provider to handle the mail but is totally resident on T'bird.
One that has a Thunderbird address etc

All you gotta do is get your real estate license and move to Santa
Cruz. Easy peasy!

I think I've said this several times before, but that
has been largely ignored.

"You think"? Surely you jest.

Cute, but ignores the issue.
I have T'bird set up to read my AOL mail--that's never
had anything to do with the question!
Tell me how to set up an account that is ON T"BIRD.
By that I mean an account so that my address
is Pfsszxt@thunderbird.***, and mail I send shows a T'bird
return address.
The question has been ignored throughout this whole
affair. And it's always been my only concern!

No it hasn't been ignored, it has been answered by many, many times.

Pfsszxt...the 3S man: Stubborn, Stupid and Senile.

@thunderbird.***, and mail I send shows a T'bird
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