Microsoft confirms there will be no Windows 11

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309

"Mel Bourne" escreveu na mensagem ...

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309

I believe in the future, operating systems will not have names, they will be
intrinsic to each machine. We will not be able to change the OS or install a
new one. Like TV sets, they have OS but consumers don't know nothing about
them. They just turn on and choose the channel. This article doesn't say
it's the end of windows. At first, I thought they would stop producing
Windows and W10 would be the last one. But that's not the case. I don't want
to update to Windows 10 because I don't like big changes. If I could afford
I would consider buying a machine with Win 10. I've read the rumors about
windows becoming a service for renting and that scares me.

On 05/09/2015 04:31 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2015 05:33:28 +0700, Mel Bourne wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309

Oh goodie. Let's have a name contest.


KenW


How about "Windows Nein?"

:-)

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2015 17:31:26 -0600, Ken1943
wrote:

On Sun, 10 May 2015 05:33:28 +0700, Mel Bourne wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309

Oh goodie. Let's have a name contest.

It already has a name. Why does it need another one?


As mentioned yesterday
"it could very well be current released version 10.x+1 and 10.x - same
o/s (i.e. down to 1 o/s) just different build versions and most likely,
only the latest capable of getting updates."

i.e.
Need updates ? Upgrade to the current version from qualified prior and
earlier version.

Other things to consider as MSFT evolves to 'Windows-as-a-service'

Build your own ? Ensure you have capable hardware that meets latest
version system requirements, supports UEFI and Secure Boot enabled, and
purchase and download 'Windows as a service' direct from MSFT Store
using a registered Microsoft Account with valid credit card for payment.

System Builder versions ? - imo, could be the end of those.
Pre-installed by OEM pc manufacturer's (MSFT partners) maybe the only
other choice.
- Like Office, no media. Product key is used to validate access to
download, final installed product key stored online in MSFT account on
MSFT Store.

Downgrade rights - probably another item that will disappear (and soon)



--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2015 17:31:26 -0600, Ken1943
wrote:

On Sun, 10 May 2015 05:33:28 +0700, Mel Bourne wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309

Oh goodie. Let's have a name contest.

It already has a name. Why does it need another one?


How about "Vista"?

Ed

Peter Ping wrote:


"Mel Bourne" escreveu na mensagem ...

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309


I believe in the future, operating systems will not have names, they
will be intrinsic to each machine. We will not be able to change the OS
or install a new one. Like TV sets, they have OS but consumers don't
know nothing about them. They just turn on and choose the channel. This
article doesn't say it's the end of windows. At first, I thought they
would stop producing Windows and W10 would be the last one. But that's
not the case. I don't want to update to Windows 10 because I don't like
big changes. If I could afford I would consider buying a machine with
Win 10. I've read the rumors about windows becoming a service for
renting and that scares me.

My smart TV is always applying updates. Sometimes to apps, sometimes to
the kernel, sometimes to the channel map.

Ed

.. . .winston wrote on 5/10/2015 12:44 AM:
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2015 17:31:26 -0600, Ken1943
wrote:

On Sun, 10 May 2015 05:33:28 +0700, Mel Bourne wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309

Oh goodie. Let's have a name contest.

It already has a name. Why does it need another one?


As mentioned yesterday
"it could very well be current released version 10.x+1 and 10.x - same o/s (i.e. down to 1 o/s) just different build
versions and most likely, only the latest capable of getting updates."

i.e.
Need updates ? Upgrade to the current version from qualified prior and earlier version.

Other things to consider as MSFT evolves to 'Windows-as-a-service'

Build your own ? Ensure you have capable hardware that meets latest version system requirements, supports UEFI and
Secure Boot enabled, and purchase and download 'Windows as a service' direct from MSFT Store using a registered
Microsoft Account with valid credit card for payment.

System Builder versions ? - imo, could be the end of those. Pre-installed by OEM pc manufacturer's (MSFT partners) maybe
the only other choice.
- Like Office, no media. Product key is used to validate access to download, final installed product key stored online
in MSFT account on MSFT Store.

Downgrade rights - probably another item that will disappear (and soon)



Kind of a ****er if you have dial up to pull all this over the net. I saw an article on How-To-Geek newsletter that
there were still a substantial number of people using AOL dialup. I got a laugh outta that, after the "what the?"
feeling. But I guess in remote areas, dialup might be the only answer.

Ed Cryer wrote on 5/10/2015 8:39 AM:
Peter Ping wrote:


"Mel Bourne" escreveu na mensagem ...

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309


I believe in the future, operating systems will not have names, they
will be intrinsic to each machine. We will not be able to change the OS
or install a new one. Like TV sets, they have OS but consumers don't
know nothing about them. They just turn on and choose the channel. This
article doesn't say it's the end of windows. At first, I thought they
would stop producing Windows and W10 would be the last one. But that's
not the case. I don't want to update to Windows 10 because I don't like
big changes. If I could afford I would consider buying a machine with
Win 10. I've read the rumors about windows becoming a service for
renting and that scares me.

My smart TV is always applying updates. Sometimes to apps, sometimes to the kernel, sometimes to the channel map.

Ed
My Wii, my Verizon Set Top Box. Android phones. Everything is update over the net, whatever net that is.
Why not windows?!

On 2015-05-09 9:53 PM, T wrote:
On 05/09/2015 04:31 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2015 05:33:28 +0700, Mel Bourne wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309


Oh goodie. Let's have a name contest.


KenW


How about "Windows Nein?"

:-)

Ha! What's funniest to me is how Windows XP, released in 2001, is
_STILL_ better than Linux.

--
Slimer
Encrypt.

In message , Big_Al
writes
Ed Cryer wrote on 5/10/2015 8:39 AM:
Peter Ping wrote:


I believe in the future, operating systems will not have names, they
will be intrinsic to each machine. We will not be able to change the OS
or install a new one. Like TV sets, they have OS but consumers don't
know nothing about them. They just turn on and choose the channel. This
article doesn't say it's the end of windows. At first, I thought they
would stop producing Windows and W10 would be the last one. But that's
not the case. I don't want to update to Windows 10 because I don't like
big changes. If I could afford I would consider buying a machine with
Win 10. I've read the rumors about windows becoming a service for
renting and that scares me.

My smart TV is always applying updates. Sometimes to apps, sometimes
to the kernel, sometimes to the channel map.

Ed
My Wii, my Verizon Set Top Box. Android phones. Everything is
update over the net, whatever net that is.
Why not windows?!

Because a proper personal computer operating system has to be adaptable
to all sorts of environments, platforms and uses.

That whole list above contains just single use devices which are
basically throw-away and mostly dependent on services provided by others
that have to be maintained and paid for.

The Microsoft current policy strikes me as a recipe for large support
costs. I don't believe they will ever be able to test against enough
different hardware and use-scenarios, and a forced update policy could
really backfire.

Windows has always had the advantage of flexibility and availability of
hardware add-ons. Making these work reliably in critical conditions is a
whole lot different from just using a core OS across tablet, phone and
desktop as a glorified typewriter/calculator and basic entertainment and
information source.
--
Bill

On Sun, 10 May 2015 19:21:05 +0100, Bill wrote:

The Microsoft current policy strikes me as a recipe for large support
costs. I don't believe they will ever be able to test against enough
different hardware and use-scenarios, and a forced update policy could
really backfire.

I think it`s really a question, what part of the OS they want to
update frequently. If driver models remain stable as long as in the
past and if only the GUI oder Webservices are updated, then this may
work.

Regards

M.

On Sun, 10 May 2015 00:44:45 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Other things to consider as MSFT evolves to 'Windows-as-a-service'

Build your own ? Ensure you have capable hardware that meets latest
version system requirements, supports UEFI and Secure Boot enabled, and
purchase and download 'Windows as a service' direct from MSFT Store
using a registered Microsoft Account with valid credit card for payment.

System Builder versions ? - imo, could be the end of those.
Pre-installed by OEM pc manufacturer's (MSFT partners) maybe the only
other choice.
- Like Office, no media. Product key is used to validate access to
download, final installed product key stored online in MSFT account on
MSFT Store.

How do we download *anything* onto a newly built PC without an
operating system already installed on it? BIOS or UEFI can read from a
disk or a USB stick, and that's about all.

I've never bought a ready built PC; I've only ever built my own and
have no intention of changing, and if Microsoft tries to insist that I
set up an online account with them just to be able to use my own
computer, that will be the absolute end of my involvement with them
and their products. I'm glad that alternatives are available.

Downgrade rights - probably another item that will disappear (and soon)

But not "wipe the disk and install Linux" rights, thankfully. Nobody
is going to stop me doing what I want to my own computer.

Rod.

Slimer wrote:
On 2015-05-09 9:53 PM, T wrote:
On 05/09/2015 04:31 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2015 05:33:28 +0700, Mel Bourne
wrote:

http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ows-11-1293309



Oh goodie. Let's have a name contest.


KenW


How about "Windows Nein?"

:-)

Ha! What's funniest to me is how Windows XP, released in 2001, is
_STILL_ better than Linux.


Windows XP is better than any windows that has been released by
microsoft since then.

On Sun, 10 May 2015 17:57:39 -0400, Dino wrote:


Windows XP is better than any windows that has been released by
microsoft since then.



You are of course entitled to that opinion, but I couldn't disagree
more.

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 10 May 2015 17:57:39 -0400, Dino wrote:


Windows XP is better than any windows that has been released by
microsoft since then.



You are of course entitled to that opinion, but I couldn't disagree
more.

MVP why don't that response surprise me?