Anyone get a call from "A Microsoft Technician"?

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:38:54 -0500, "Jake"
wrote:

And the scumbag gook tells you your computer is sending out "error
messages"?

I have played along with a couple of these Douches. They have you look into
the "%temp%" files and "prefetch" and a couple of other normal Windows files
to show you all the errors.

After I tire, I always say something nice. Something like, "your whore
mother sucks cocks". Geeze, the "Microsoft Computer Technicians", fly off
the handle for some reason.


I toy with them for a while, My latest response is that I don't have
windows. That I only have skylights and port holes. Which is usually
followed by a moment of silence while they ponder that. Or, I just
bluntly describe their ancestry. They get real offended when told
they are liars.

On 10/01/2016 17:26, Jake wrote:

Um....Kiss my ass.

As I thought so. I always believed that I am dealing with an uneducated
person who is struggling with words. You have used thse words in all
your posts so far in this thread. Are you short of words? You really
need to educate yourself so that you can express yourself better. It's
no point remaining an idiot and blaming the migrants for taking away
your jobs or calling you to repair your computer system.

They know you can't look after yourself. They are smarter than you.

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:30:30 -0500, -= Hawk =- wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 08:13:40 -0700, Ken Blake
scribbled:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:33 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:


Never heard or read any security alerts of such scams targeting OSX or
Linux.


Targeting? No.

But people who run OSX or Linux *do* get such calls.

People who don't have computers get these calls.


Sure. I didn't say otherwise. I was replying to his erroneous messages
saying "Never heard or read any security alerts of such scams
targeting OSX or Linux."

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On 10/01/2016 17:26, Jake wrote:


Um....Kiss my ass.

As I thought so. I always believed that I am dealing with an uneducated person who is struggling with words. You have used thse words in all your posts so far in this thread. Are you short of words? You really need to educate yourself so that you can express yourself better. It's no point remaining an idiot and blaming the migrants for taking away your jobs or calling you to repair your computer system.

They know you can't look after yourself. They are smarter than you.




Widdle man needs attention? Why do you need attention, widdle man? Perhaps you should get a life.

On 01/10/2016 01:38 PM, bentot wrote:

[snip]

I toy with them for a while, My latest response is that I don't have
windows. That I only have skylights and port holes. Which is usually
followed by a moment of silence while they ponder that. Or, I just
bluntly describe their ancestry. They get real offended when told
they are liars.


Once I told one that I have Ubuntu, which he seemed to think MUST be a
version of Windows. However, he did ignore more than 90% of what I said.

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Good Guy wrote:

On 09/01/2016 18:13, Stef wrote:
Haven't had a landline phone in a dozen years.

No wonder my neighbours were complaining that somebody is using their
broadband when they are on metered connection. It isn't you right?
Somebody like you, intelligent enough to know something about hacking is
doing that.

You still using dialup? ;-)

Stef

Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:56 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

From what I've been reading regarding "Your Computer is Infected" scam,
the calls are not random, per se, but are targeted at known Windows
users,


Sorry, that's not correct. There's no way to do what you suggest, and
I've heard from many non-Windows users who got such calls.


Of course, there is. I used to know several telephone sales guys (hell,
I'v done it) -- legit ones -- and they told me that there are all
kinds of "call lists" available for sale. And they can be VERY specific.
The list of one guy's company was for only small businesses -- sole
proprietorships, partnerships and privately-held corporations -- in U.S.
and Canada. And this was a legal list, legally obtained. Can you
imagine what hackers could compile illegally? Why do you think
hospitals, department stores, businesses, etc. are hacked? Even
governments are not safe. They do it to sell the info.

Now, I'm not saying that ALL these scammers are working from a call
list, but the successful ones will be. And they'll pitch from a
prepared script, too.


as the scam ONLY works on Windows. Waste of resouces to just
call everybody randomly, and hope for a "hit."


True, but they have no choice.

Maybe the small-score, fly-by-nighters will cold-call. They can't
afford to buy a list. Or are too lazy to compile their own.

Stef

-= Hawk =- wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:56 +0000 (UTC), Stef
scribbled:

From what I've been reading regarding "Your Computer is Infected" scam,
the calls are not random, per se, but are targeted at known Windows
users

Then you need to work on your reading skills as there's no giant
database of Windows user's phone numbers floating around. They're cold
calls and the scam is based on Windows being the most prevelent OS.
They're 100% random. Like your thought processes.

Of course, there is. Microsoft has the BIG one. ;-) And if you don't
think Microsoft can't be hacked . . . And hasn't been.

There are database for everything. And they are available both legally
and illegally. Just depends on how much you want to pay. But to say
100% of these scammers are cold-calling is delusional.

Stef

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Stef wrote:

-= Hawk =- wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:56 +0000 (UTC), Stef
scribbled:

From what I've been reading regarding "Your Computer is Infected" scam,
the calls are not random, per se, but are targeted at known Windows
users

Then you need to work on your reading skills as there's no giant
database of Windows user's phone numbers floating around. They're cold
calls and the scam is based on Windows being the most prevelent OS.
They're 100% random. Like your thought processes.

Of course, there is. Microsoft has the BIG one. ;-) And if you don't
think Microsoft can't be hacked . . . And hasn't been.

Do Windows users provide their phone number(s) to Microsoft?

There are database for everything. And they are available both legally
and illegally. Just depends on how much you want to pay. But to say
100% of these scammers are cold-calling is delusional.

I wouldn't have claimed 100%, but by far the most likely explanation is
simple cold-calling. I seriously doubt that any of the scammers being
discussed has purchased any kind of list, other than perhaps a list of Area
Codes and valid prefixes, although when you're robodialing even that doesn't
matter. Besides, you can look that up without buying anything.

Jake posted this
via :

And the scumbag gook tells you your computer is sending out "error
messages"?

I have played along with a couple of these Douches. They have you look
into the "%temp%" files and "prefetch" and a couple of other normal
Windows files to show you all the errors.

After I tire, I always say something nice. Something like, "your whore
mother sucks cocks". Geeze, the "Microsoft Computer Technicians", fly
off the handle for some reason.

I got some smoke-signals from the Northwest mountains...
They said my "abacus" needed tuning-up or else my checks could bounce...

Pssffftt... I don't even play any musical instruments!

HTH.

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On 01/09/16 08:38, Jake so wittily quipped:
And the scumbag gook tells you your computer is sending out "error
messages"?

I have played along with a couple of these Douches. They have you look
into the "%temp%" files and "prefetch" and a couple of other normal
Windows files to show you all the errors.

After I tire, I always say something nice. Something like, "your whore
mother sucks cocks". Geeze, the "Microsoft Computer Technicians", fly
off the handle for some reason.


I prefer to ask them for their phone numbers so I can call them back.
usually I get *click*

Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Stef wrote:

-= Hawk =- wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:56 +0000 (UTC), Stef
scribbled:

From what I've been reading regarding "Your Computer is Infected" scam,
the calls are not random, per se, but are targeted at known Windows
users

Then you need to work on your reading skills as there's no giant
database of Windows user's phone numbers floating around. They're cold
calls and the scam is based on Windows being the most prevelent OS.
They're 100% random. Like your thought processes.

Of course, there is. Microsoft has the BIG one. ;-) And if you don't
think Microsoft can't be hacked . . . And hasn't been.

Do Windows users provide their phone number(s) to Microsoft?

Have you ever called Tech Support with a problem? They've got your
phone number (unless its blocked). They may even ask you for it "...to
better serve you." And when you're verified as a legit Windows owner,
it goes into the DB. Ditto with Customer Service. Etc. Etc. All big
businesses do this, not just Microsoft.

There are database for everything. And they are available both legally
and illegally. Just depends on how much you want to pay. But to say
100% of these scammers are cold-calling is delusional.

I wouldn't have claimed 100%, but by far the most likely explanation is
simple cold-calling. I seriously doubt that any of the scammers being
discussed has purchased any kind of list, other than perhaps a list of Area
Codes and valid prefixes, although when you're robodialing even that doesn't
matter. Besides, you can look that up without buying anything.

As I've stated in other replies, I'm sure a lot of "amateur" scammers --
those in it for the short term -- cold call, and there are a lot more
of them than the pros. But those who are in the business for the long
haul, that have large rooms full of callers, will use a call list. It's
more profitable. Robot dialers or not, hitting a high percentage of
your target market is better.

There all kinds of databases available, legit and not, for all kinds
business needs. And these lists can be cheap, under $100, or expensive.
Just depends on you criteria.

Stef

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:52:47 +0000 (UTC), Stef wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Stef wrote:

-= Hawk =- wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:56 +0000 (UTC), Stef
scribbled:

From what I've been reading regarding "Your Computer is Infected" scam,
the calls are not random, per se, but are targeted at known Windows
users

Then you need to work on your reading skills as there's no giant
database of Windows user's phone numbers floating around. They're cold
calls and the scam is based on Windows being the most prevelent OS.
They're 100% random. Like your thought processes.

Of course, there is. Microsoft has the BIG one. ;-) And if you don't
think Microsoft can't be hacked . . . And hasn't been.

Do Windows users provide their phone number(s) to Microsoft?

Have you ever called Tech Support with a problem?

*Microsoft* tech support? No, I certainly haven't, but it makes sense that
they'd have your number if you call. The question remains, however, whether
they collect and store that number. I'd be surprised if they do. There'd be
no business reason to do so. It's not like they're ever going to proactively
call you.

Also, if you're asserting that MS has a big DB of phone numbers for Windows
users and you're basing it on tech support calls, then the assertion falls
flat immediately. Most Windows users have no reason to ever call tech
support.


There are database for everything. And they are available both legally
and illegally. Just depends on how much you want to pay. But to say
100% of these scammers are cold-calling is delusional.

I wouldn't have claimed 100%, but by far the most likely explanation is
simple cold-calling. I seriously doubt that any of the scammers being
discussed has purchased any kind of list, other than perhaps a list of Area
Codes and valid prefixes, although when you're robodialing even that doesn't
matter. Besides, you can look that up without buying anything.

As I've stated in other replies, I'm sure a lot of "amateur" scammers --
those in it for the short term -- cold call, and there are a lot more
of them than the pros. But those who are in the business for the long
haul, that have large rooms full of callers, will use a call list. It's
more profitable. Robot dialers or not, hitting a high percentage of
your target market is better.

Agreed in principle, but I think this thread is specifically about guys who
call you to tell you that your Windows computer has errors and they can help
you fix it. Those guys are obviously cold calling.

This windows tech support dept call scam is the biggest scam going.
has never happed to me but look on YouTube ect plenty of inexperienced users
and owners fall for it.


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On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:52:47 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:17:55 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

-= Hawk =- wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 07:28:56 +0000 (UTC), Stef
scribbled:

From what I've been reading regarding "Your Computer is Infected"
scl.

I wouldn't have claimed 100%, but by far the most likely explanation is
simple cold-calling. I seriously doubt that any of the scammers being
discussed has purchased any kind of list, other than perhaps a list of
Area
Codes and valid prefixes, although when you're robodialing even that
doesn't
matter. Besides, you can look that up without buying anything.

As I've stated in other replies, I'm sure a lot of "amateur" scammers --
those in it for the short term -- cold call, and there are a lot more
of them than the pros. But those who are in the business for the long
haul, that have large rooms full of callers, will use a call list. It's
more profitable. Robot dialers or not, hitting a high percentage of
your target market is better.

Agreed in principle, but I think this thread is specifically about guys
who
call you to tell you that your Windows computer has errors and they can
help
you fix it. Those guys are obviously cold calling.

On 2016-01-14, Andy wrote:
This windows tech support dept call scam is the biggest scam going.
has never happed to me but look on YouTube ect plenty of inexperienced users
and owners fall for it.

I'm amazed anyone falls for it. The scammers posing as "Windows Support"
are invariably idiots that know nothing, they are just reading from
a script. When you start asking questions like "what exactly does the
error message say, please read it to me" or "what IP address are the
messages coming from" they still try to stick to the script.

If I have time I'll play around with them for a while. I've even let them
remote into a Linux virtual machine, set up to look superfically similar
to Windows, and watch them stumble around. Sometimes they'll call over a
"senior technician" who doesn't really know anything either but after
a while will finally figure out it's not Windows and start cursing.

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