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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
Could I just download and install KB 4015438, skipping 4013429? Their 64-bit download are of file sizes over 1 GBytes!!! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most -- AL'S COMPUTERS "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote in message news Could I just download and install KB 4015438, skipping 4013429? Their 64-bit download are of file sizes over 1 GBytes!!! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 ???! ???! ???! ???! ???! ???! ????? (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G( very pricey METERED connections). -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote: Andy wrote: With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G( very pricey METERED connections). Or if you are rural and have to use a satellite link, you can not download it at all.... -dan z- -- Protect your civil rights! Let the politicians know how you feel. Join or donate to the NRA today! http://membership.nrahq.org/default....ignid=XR014887 Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars. |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
slate_leeper wrote:
Or if you are rural and have to use a satellite link, you can not download it at all.... Oh, yeah I fell for the HughesNet scam. I even eat the penalty to dump it when this meager DSL arrived. Hey TelCOs, where is my Fiber-Information-Superhighway promised in the 90s in exchanged for deregulation? We all know... -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
On 23/03/2017 2:04 PM, Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most There are still poor people and backward countries... -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote: Andy wrote: With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G( very pricey METERED connections). I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW. Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging yet, though. |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438 vs 4016635
On 22/03/2017 10:28 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Could I just download and install KB 4015438, skipping 4013429? Their 64-bit download are of file sizes over 1 GBytes!!! OH well, here comes KB4016635!!! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
"Andy" wrote in message
... With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most It took me almost an hour to dl the last update and I have a fast connection, over 200mbs. Why? Because it wouldn't dl all at once. It would stick at different percentages for a long time. Is their a link that you an dl from without using the MS Update site built-into Win10? -- Buffalo |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
On 23/03/2017 11:46 PM, Buffalo wrote:
Why? Because it wouldn't dl all at once. It would stick at different percentages for a long time. Is their a link that you an dl from without using the MS Update site built-into Win10? I needed to manually download the XXX.MSU package for my slower PCs. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little" wrote: Andy wrote: With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G( very pricey METERED connections). I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW. I said *county*. I'm only a little over an hour from Richmond VA and 3Mbps is the *best* I can get. And I am lucky! Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging yet, though. Consider yourself lucky, we have no other option and Verizon is not in a very accommodating mood. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438 vs 4016635
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 22/03/2017 10:28 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Could I just download and install KB 4015438, skipping 4013429? Their 64-bit download are of file sizes over 1 GBytes!!! OH well, here comes KB4016635!!! You should be relying on Windows to do these, not fooling around with catalog.update.microsoft.com . Using direct downloads is only to cover failure cases. The "Delta Updater" is a technology that only downloads the difference between the existing file set, and the new file set. The end result should be, the three updates should not need a total of 3GB of downloads. Maybe 1-1.5GB or so. Use the byte counter in your router to keep track. Part of the reason for doing some of this work now, is so that when the Delta Updater brings in the Creator OS version, the delta will be smaller, and the CDN will not be overloaded. The Delta Update does not appear to be particularly granular. The chunk size it uses still seems to be pretty large. But the new scheme was invented to save bytes on the Microsoft end, at the expense of increasing the overall time to complete the updates. I could download an entire DVD-sized OS image, in about half the time to do a Delta Update. It's slow. Paul |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
Buffalo wrote:
"Andy" wrote in message ... With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most It took me almost an hour to dl the last update and I have a fast connection, over 200mbs. Why? Because it wouldn't dl all at once. It would stick at different percentages for a long time. Is their a link that you an dl from without using the MS Update site built-into Win10? You can adjust the process priority to break deadlocks, but I'm not at the point of delivering "recipes" on this. I'm still trying to figure out why it is broken. Several Insider editions ago, the Settings control panel stopped updating. So you'd see "20%" and the thing was still doing downloads, but the number would not change. That seems to be fixed now. But some other stuff behaves in a weird fashion. I tried bumping TiWorker (or equivalent), I tried changing the priority of the SVCHOST with wuauserv in it. What I noticed, is the Delta downloader "productivity" drops with time. Initially, it might be using 40% of a core, then gradually the CPU load drops to almost nothing. I don't really think process priority ("Above Normal") is all that good of an answer. What I was looking for at the time, was something to "bump" the process and get it going again. I've had weird behaviors on Windows before, where merely opening Task Manager dialog on the screen, bumped things enough to get them running again. But so far, with the Delta downloader, I haven't figured out why it slows down (or stalls). Rebooting when this happens is convenient, but the Delta Downloader does not "checkpoint" its progress in Win10. So the percentage done will drop back to 7%. It seemed to "recompute" the download, and resolve the downloads using the files it already has. So it won't toss all the downloads it did away. But it will annoy the hell out of you with its slow slow behavior (in all cases). You'd swear Microsoft had investments in power generation companies, for all the electricity this is wasting. I've never seen so many CPU cycles just... wasted. Paul |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:59:59 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote: Char Jackson wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little" wrote: Andy wrote: With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most. for me maybe 5 at most And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G( very pricey METERED connections). I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW. I said *county*. I'm only a little over an hour from Richmond VA and 3Mbps is the *best* I can get. And I am lucky! Thanks for the correction. I guess I saw what I expected to see, unfortunately. |
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Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438
On 03/23/2017 10:29 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
[snip] Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging yet, though. Currently, the cable here (Suddenlink) has a maximum of 150Mb/7.5Mb internet. They say they're planning 1Gb service, but it's not here yet (and it's going to require a new modem). -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "WARNING: Giving up religion now greatly increases humanity's chances for survival." |
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