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compatibility of keyboard and accessories with XP.
Are there any keyboards (or for that matter mice or speakers or most
other accessories) that won't work with winXP if they work with 7 or 8 or 10? This wireless keyboard, as noted at the bottom of the webpage, starts at 7, but that's no reason to think it doesn't work with XP is it. (I dont' especially want this one, but the next keyboard might be the same way and I want to get it straight. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...0-plus?crid=26 |
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compatibility of keyboard and accessories with XP.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:11:30 -0400, micky
wrote: Are there any keyboards (or for that matter mice or speakers or most other accessories) that won't work with winXP if they work with 7 or 8 or 10? It all depends on whether someone (usually the manufacturer or Microsoft) has provided a driver for the device that is compatible with the operating system. -- Remove del for email |
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compatibility of keyboard and accessories with XP.
micky wrote:
Are there any keyboards (or for that matter mice or speakers or most other accessories) that won't work with winXP if they work with 7 or 8 or 10? A USB keyboard is a USB keyboard is a USB keyboard ad nauseum - unless you want the ancilliary software that adds more functions to the keyboard. Windows XP, and later, already include USB drivers for generic USB devices enumerated as keyboards. You never mentioned if you were asking about desktop or laptops. Laptops sometimes come with maker-supplied software as part of their pre-installed bundle to assign macros to keys to provide what are standard functions on desktop keyboards. Since the transceiver dongle for a wireless keyboard is a USB device, it's a USB keyboard. A PS/S keyboard is ... you get the idea. Again, you can attach a PS/2 keyboard and it works since Windows supports legacy keyboards. No point in wasting a USB port if you have a PS/2 port, plus USB keyboards (that use USB polling) are not as fast as PS/2 keyboards (that use interrupts). You'll find gaming keyboards are often PS/2 variants not only because they are faster but also because more keys can be assigned as gaming keys; i.e., more keys can be concurrently pressed on a PS/2 gaming keyboard without hearing the beep that tells you too many keys are concurrently pressed for a USB keyboard. A USB mouse is ... again, you get the idea. Windows already includes generic enumeration support for USB mice (aka HID devices). A PS/2 mouse is ... again, it's a generic device. Windows already supports PS/2 mice although many computer makers have started to omit the PS/2 ports. For those computers, PS/2 keyboards and PS/2 mice are not an option unless you specifically buy keyboards or mice that say they support both hardware protocols; i.e., the keyboard or mouse must come with an adapter AND the keyboard or mouse must also contain internal logic to detect the port type to which it is connected and switch to that hardware protocol. The computer doesn't even know what [powered] external speakers you connect to a desktop. Speakers on a laptop are also not directly visible to the OS. The audio adapter (usually onboard these days unless you buy a daughtercard to add to a desktop, but laptops don't have slots to upgrade their audio chips) is what the OS sees. The OS can alter the connector arrangment for some audio chips but only if the chips support it. If you looking for more than a 2.1 setup then you may need to ensure there is drivers and software to let you define or change the audio configuration. This wireless keyboard, as noted at the bottom of the webpage, starts at 7, but that's no reason to think it doesn't work with XP is it. (I dont' especially want this one, but the next keyboard might be the same way and I want to get it straight. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...0-plus?crid=26 That one uses a USB dongle for the transceiver. It can never be used on a PS/2 port (unless you want to spend more money on an active USB-to-PS2 converter than the wireless keyboard costs). The wireless keyboard via wifi USB dongle will be seen as a USB device. It will be listed in Device Management (devmgmt.msc) under Keyboards - HID device (HID = Human Interface Device). A generic driver (probably a mini-driver which is often just a text file with definitions on how to interface with the device) gets used. They say: Designed for use with Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10 and later That means their ancilliary software may not run under Windows XP. There may be OS functions or libs (e.g., .Net Framework) that their software requires in the later versions of Windows. If you don't use their software, some keyboard functions won't work. You need their macro software to interpret the scan codes to emulate a full[er] keyboard. Some functions will work, like those supported by the embedded generic USB keyboard provided by Windows. With just the generic USB keyboard support, you might lose the audio keys (mute, up/down volume, play, forward, reverse), the function keys, and very probably the touchpad and its buttons. Of course, they could transmit standard scancodes so the wireless keyboard looks like a standard USB keyboard. They could also separately handle the touchpad as a USB device. You would see two HID devices in Device Mgmt: the USB keyboard and the USB mouse. Asking Logitech if *any* software comes with their product would indicate whether software was required to provide full support of all keys and the touchpad. If they do not provide any software then their device behaves like standard HID devices (USB keyboard and USB mouse), and if no software is involved to support their product then it should be usable back in Windows XP using its standard HID device support. Newegg has some pics for that product at http://tinyurl.com/qeuh44z. They don't show any optical media (CD/DVD) for installation. So it's likely this product uses no ancilliary software. It just looks like a USB keyboard and USB mouse to the OS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z9kIZ_vKnU That doesn't show any software comes with the product. Reinforces that it simply appears to the OS as HID devices via USB. Youtube has lots of reviews on this product. Go watch them at: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...eyboard%20K400 Ooh, lookie he http://support.logitech.com/product/...-keyboard-k400 Windows XP is listed as supported. Yep, just the generic USB HID drivers are all it needs. It mentions Setpoint software is required but that is probably not true. They make the same claim regarding the wired mice. I actually prefer their earlier Mouseware program. SetPoint is hog and add features that I don't need and don't want. Alas, the old Mouseware doesn't work with all their mice. SetPoint probably adds MORE features to their wireless keyboard but is not needed if you don't want all its fluff. |
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compatibility of keyboard and accessories with XP.
micky wrote:
Are there any keyboards (or for that matter mice or speakers or most other accessories) that won't work with winXP if they work with 7 or 8 or 10? This wireless keyboard, as noted at the bottom of the webpage, starts at 7, but that's no reason to think it doesn't work with XP is it. (I dont' especially want this one, but the next keyboard might be the same way and I want to get it straight. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produc...0-plus?crid=26 I thought the idea was, the device reports as a HID to Plug and Play. Which solves most of the problems. So if you have a 2.4GHz Unifying Receiver, it is reporting as a HID to the OS, not as a Wifi device. It would only be if the keyboard had weird "multimedia" keys and needed a separate software package to map keypress to running some program - that might not be compatible across all platforms. It would depend on how well written it was (using only Windows APIs not likely to change). Paul |
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