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Old October 9th 18, 12:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
hatethem
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Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts. Several..

Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS
NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while.
Same damn computer !

Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to.

Google Ass Holes !!!!!!

Is there any way around this total CRAP !

May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook !

My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I
have to work with.

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Old October 9th 18, 01:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts. Several..

Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS
NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while.
Same damn computer !

Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to.

Google Ass Holes !!!!!!

Is there any way around this total CRAP !

May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook !

My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I
have to work with.


What if you log into Gmail via the web and use the
Settings menu to enable "less secure" mail tools.
Like your broken one. Does that make a difference ?

Paul
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Old October 9th 18, 01:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 10/8/2018 4:40 PM, hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts. Several..

Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS
NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while.
Same damn computer !

Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to.

Google Ass Holes !!!!!!

Is there any way around this total CRAP !

May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook !

My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I
have to work with.



Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is
provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use
your ISP's E-mail service?

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com

Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald
Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk.
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Old October 9th 18, 02:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Sam Hill
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service?


Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and
notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address."

(I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted,
that's not for everybody.)
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Old October 9th 18, 04:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 10/8/2018 6:34 PM, Sam Hill wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service?


Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and
notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address."

(I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted,
that's not for everybody.)


Your last statement in parentheses is the best solution. You do not
even need your own mail server. All you need is an ISP that allows you
to have an E-mail address based on your own personalized domain. (Not
all ISPs allow that, but enough do allow it.)

Almost 16 years ago, my daughter registered rosssde.com as a gift to me.
It initially cost me $8US every year to keep that domain; it is now
$10US a year. Since then, I have changed ISPs twice since then without
having to notify anyone (other than the ISP itself) about a change.
That is because I have not had to change my E-mail address, which moved
seamlessly to the nw ISP. The new ISP handled that move.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com

Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald
Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk.
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Old October 9th 18, 04:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Frank Slootweg
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hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts. Several..

Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS
NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while.
Same damn computer !

Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to.


Not needed if you can still log into your Google Account (see below).

Google Ass Holes !!!!!!

Is there any way around this total CRAP !

May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook !

My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I
have to work with.


Just chill.

Log into the Google Account associated with the non-working Gmail
email address. I.e. do not login into Gmail, but login into your Google
Account: https://myaccount.google.com

- Sign-in & security - Device activity & security events - Recent
security events.

(Direct link: https://myaccount.google.com/security#activity)

Now look at these security events and fix the suspect ones.

And on the same page, set 'Allow less secure apps' to ON (as Paul
mentioned).
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Old October 9th 18, 04:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is
provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use
your ISP's E-mail service?




I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various
reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again
next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs
e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint
my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address,
change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about
the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for
relatives and friends to remember.

I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP
was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount
for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using
my ISPs service.
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Old October 9th 18, 04:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is
provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use
your ISP's E-mail service?




I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various
reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again
next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs
e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint
my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address,
change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about
the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for
relatives and friends to remember.

I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP
was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount
for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using
my ISPs service.


Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once
you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to
change your E-mail address again when you change ISP.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com

Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald
Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk.
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Old October 9th 18, 05:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is
provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use
your ISP's E-mail service?


I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various
reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again
next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs
e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint
my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address,
change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about
the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for
relatives and friends to remember.

I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP
was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount
for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using
my ISPs service.


Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once
you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to
change your E-mail address again when you change ISP.


Well, as long as you keep paying the renewal fee to re-register your
domain. You never own a domain, just lease it.
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Old October 9th 18, 06:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:48:39 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is
provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use
your ISP's E-mail service?




I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various
reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again
next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs
e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint
my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address,
change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about
the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for
relatives and friends to remember.

I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP
was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount
for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using
my ISPs service.


Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once
you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to
change your E-mail address again when you change ISP.





Yes, that's exactly what I did.
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Old October 9th 18, 06:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:45:35 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote:

Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is
provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use
your ISP's E-mail service?

I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various
reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again
next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs
e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint
my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address,
change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about
the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for
relatives and friends to remember.

I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP
was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount
for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using
my ISPs service.


Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once
you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to
change your E-mail address again when you change ISP.


Well, as long as you keep paying the renewal fee to re-register your
domain. You never own a domain, just lease it.




Yes, but the cost is very low. I don't mind paying it.
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Old October 9th 18, 07:38 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
mathedman
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On 10/8/2018 6:40 PM, hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts.Â* Several..

Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer.Â* NO IT IS
NOT.Â* No changed mad to this computer.Â* Just been off for a while.
Same damn computer !

Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to.

Google Ass Holes !!!!!!

Is there any way around this total CRAP !

May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook !

My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I
have to work with.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


Google is malware! Don't give them ant addresses and don't let them
download stuff to your computer. Among their stuff is tracking cookies.
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Old October 9th 18, 09:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:40:43 -0700, hatethem
wrote:

Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts. Several..

Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS
NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while.
Same damn computer !

Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to.


Google locked me out when I upgraded my PC.

I walked out on the street and asked a passer by for help.
Gave his cellphone number and Gmail sent him my unlock code. And I
used that to unlock my account. Changed my password. It only took
about 3 minutes, what with walking back and forth.
I don't have a cellphone, so there was no way I could give my
number.
That's how easy google has made it to unlock an email account.
Give them ANY personal info (even if it's fake) and they'll give you
what you want.

PS Don't tell the passer-by your email, or he'll be able to
unlock it too ....
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Old October 9th 18, 10:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In message , David E. Ross
writes:
On 10/8/2018 6:34 PM, Sam Hill wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service?


Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and
notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address."

(I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted,
that's not for everybody.)


Your last statement in parentheses is the best solution. You do not
even need your own mail server. All you need is an ISP that allows you
to have an E-mail address based on your own personalized domain. (Not
all ISPs allow that, but enough do allow it.)

[]
If your ISP will let you _send_ emails with a From: that has nothing to
do with that ISP, then indeed you don't need an _outgoing_ mail server.
You still need an _incoming_ one (though many domain-registering
companies will provide that, often with autoforwarding too). Your ISP
cannot, I think, provide that unless they're also handling your domain
registration, as _incoming_ mail won't come anywhere near them.
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minutes for the whole ten hours of the battle, killing or wounding everyone on
board. - Andrew Roberts on Napoleon, RT 2015/6/13-19
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Old October 10th 18, 03:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 10/9/2018 2:13 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David E. Ross
writes:
On 10/8/2018 6:34 PM, Sam Hill wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service?

Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and
notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address."

(I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted,
that's not for everybody.)


Your last statement in parentheses is the best solution. You do not
even need your own mail server. All you need is an ISP that allows you
to have an E-mail address based on your own personalized domain. (Not
all ISPs allow that, but enough do allow it.)

[]
If your ISP will let you _send_ emails with a From: that has nothing to
do with that ISP, then indeed you don't need an _outgoing_ mail server.
You still need an _incoming_ one (though many domain-registering
companies will provide that, often with autoforwarding too). Your ISP
cannot, I think, provide that unless they're also handling your domain
registration, as _incoming_ mail won't come anywhere near them.


I disagree.

My Internet connection is through Spectrum, which also provides cable TV
service in my community. When it was Time Warner Cable before the
merger, they insisted I use their domain in my E-mail address. For that
reason, I subscribed to E-mail and Web hosting from Sunset.net at
http://sunset.net/index.html, which does not impose such a limitation.
(I do still have such an E-mail address with a roadrunner.com domain,
which I only use as a backup for sending messages on the rare occasion
when Sunset.net goes down.)

When the original registry for my domain decided to concentrate on Web
development and stopped being a registry, I started using Omnis Network
at http://www.omnis.com/, which I still use for my annual domain
renewal.

Thus, I have one ISP for a broadband connection to the Internet and an
unrelated ISP for hosting my E-mail and Web site. I also have a third
unrelated company for registering my domain.

I noticed that I might save some money by using Omnis Network in place
of Sunset.net for hosting my E-mail and Web site. I might explore that.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com

Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald
Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk.
 




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