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Old December 4th 19, 09:50 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.org

TIA
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Old December 4th 19, 09:58 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 12/4/19 4:50 PM, David wrote:
According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office?Â* https://www.openoffice.org

TIA

LibreOffice
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Old December 5th 19, 03:28 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 04/12/2019 22:58, Big Al wrote:
On 12/4/19 4:50 PM, David wrote:
According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office?Â* https://www.openoffice.org

TIA

LibreOffice


+1

LibreOffice is OK.

Fokke
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Old December 4th 19, 10:09 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 12/4/2019 2:50 PM, David wrote:
According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.org



Several points:

1. I have only very little experience with LibreOffice or OpenOffice,
but they are fairly similar. And as I understand it, LibreOffice is the
best of the Microsoft Office compatible suites.

2. I don't know all of these, but as far as I know, none of them
provide compatible alternative to all the Microsoft Office components.
For example, I think an Outlook-compatible program is missing from all
of them.

3. It's only one component of any office suite, but to most people, the
word processor is the most important component. And as far as I'm
concerned, Corel WordPerfect is far better than either Microsoft Word or
any of the compatible word processors.

4. To many people (but not necessarily to everyone) how compatible they
are with Microsoft Office is the most important part of how good they
are. OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and WordPerfect are all fairly compatible
with it (but no program is *completely* compatible). I don't know
anything about the compatibility of any of the others.

5. "...for use with Windows 10" is essentially a meaningless part of
your question. Most of them (*all* of them?) should work with any recent
version of Windows. The important part of the question is how good are
they, not "for use with Windows 10."

6. Personally, I don't try to stick with all the programs in a single
suite. I dislike the whole concept of a suite, and try to use what I
think are the best programs of each type without regard to what suite
they are a part of . I use Corel WordPerfect as my word processor,
Microsoft Excel as my spreadsheet, and Microsoft Outlook as my e-mail
client. I rarely use any of the other components of Microsoft Office,
nor any programs compatible with them.

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Old December 4th 19, 10:35 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite— 2019 Edition

On 2019-12-04, Ken Blake wrote:
4. To many people (but not necessarily to everyone) how compatible they
are with Microsoft Office is the most important part of how good they
are. OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and WordPerfect are all fairly compatible
with it (but no program is *completely* compatible). I don't know
anything about the compatibility of any of the others.


Even different versions of Microsoft Office are not necessarily 100%
compatible with each other. Leave it to Microsoft to turn word processing
into something akin to quantum mechanics in complexity.

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Old December 5th 19, 04:36 AM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 12/4/19 3:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-12-04, Ken Blake wrote:
4. To many people (but not necessarily to everyone) how compatible they
are with Microsoft Office is the most important part of how good they
are. OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and WordPerfect are all fairly compatible
with it (but no program is *completely* compatible). I don't know
anything about the compatibility of any of the others.


Even different versions of Microsoft Office are not necessarily 100%
compatible with each other. Leave it to Microsoft to turn word processing
into something akin to quantum mechanics in complexity.

That's no lie! :-)

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Old December 5th 19, 10:12 AM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 05/12/2019 04:36, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/4/19 3:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-12-04, Ken Blake wrote:
4. To many people (but not necessarily to everyone) how compatible they
are with Microsoft Office is the most important partÂ* of how good they
are. OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and WordPerfect are all fairly compatible
with it (but no program is *completely* compatible). I don't know
anything about the compatibility of any of the others.


Even different versions of Microsoft Office are not necessarily 100%
compatible with each other. Leave it to Microsoft to turn word processing
into something akin to quantum mechanics in complexity.

That's no lie!Â* :-)


I believe you! :-D

Can a clever guy like you, Ken, actually get to the link found in this
thread?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...2#251567212022

To be clear, the place one gets to by following/clicking on the word "here"

"See our good friend's last line *here*"

If you CAN get there, what does it say there? What don't the
'moderators' want ordinary folk to see?

TIA (If you CAN help!)

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Old December 5th 19, 10:48 AM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Default [OT]7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 10:12:53 +0000, David
wrote:

On 05/12/2019 04:36, Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/4/19 3:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-12-04, Ken Blake wrote:
4. To many people (but not necessarily to everyone) how compatible they
are with Microsoft Office is the most important part* of how good they
are. OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and WordPerfect are all fairly compatible
with it (but no program is *completely* compatible). I don't know
anything about the compatibility of any of the others.

Even different versions of Microsoft Office are not necessarily 100%
compatible with each other. Leave it to Microsoft to turn word processing
into something akin to quantum mechanics in complexity.

That's no lie!* :-)


I believe you! :-D

Can a clever guy like you, Ken, actually get to the link found in this
thread?

https://discussions.apple.com/CUT_STALKING


OT up. The thread never was about office suites/freeware or
Windows 10. Go fsk yourself "m.e. troll" and anyone else that supports
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Old December 5th 19, 01:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite— 2019 Edition

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Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/4/2019 2:50 PM, David wrote:
According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.org



Several points:

1. I have only very little experience with LibreOffice or OpenOffice,
but they are fairly similar. And as I understand it, LibreOffice is the
best of the Microsoft Office compatible suites.


Yeah, LO was forked off of OO when (IIRC) Oracle got their hands on it
(possibly by purchasing whoever owned it beforehand -- Sun maybe?).
Changed the licensing, and a lot of the "community devs" didn't like
that.



2. I don't know all of these, but as far as I know, none of them
provide compatible alternative to all the Microsoft Office components.
For example, I think an Outlook-compatible program is missing from all
of them.


Quite so. In addition, where they are compatible (e.g. LO Writer -- MS
Word), one will experience hurdles similar to two differing MS Office
versions (e.g. Office 365 -- Office 201x).

I think the only thing that is an absolute "no" is the use of MS Office
/ VBA macros.


3. It's only one component of any office suite, but to most people, the
word processor is the most important component. And as far as I'm
concerned, Corel WordPerfect is far better than either Microsoft Word or
any of the compatible word processors.


I see your wordperfect, and raise you LaTeX.

(Well, for some cases, LaTeX has been a real savior -- although I
haven't actually *needed* its typeset / mathematics features in a decade
now).

[... snip 4 as I addressed it in 2 ...]


6. Personally, I don't try to stick with all the programs in a single
suite. I dislike the whole concept of a suite, and try to use what I
think are the best programs of each type without regard to what suite


This is a really good point. Find the specific program that does the
specific task best. Also helps keep you from getting stuck in that "But
in $program, $thing works in this way" rut.


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Old December 8th 19, 02:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.freeware
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Default 7 Best Alternatives To Microsoft Office Suite — 2019 Edition

On 05/12/2019 14.32, Dan Purgert wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On 12/4/2019 2:50 PM, David wrote:
According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.org



Several points:


1. I have only very little experience with LibreOffice or OpenOffice,
but they are fairly similar. And as I understand it, LibreOffice is the
best of the Microsoft Office compatible suites.


Yeah, LO was forked off of OO when (IIRC) Oracle got their hands on it
(possibly by purchasing whoever owned it beforehand -- Sun maybe?).
Changed the licensing, and a lot of the "community devs" didn't like
that.


It is a bit more complex :-)

Life started with "StarOffice" on 1985. There is a graph at wikipedia
with the derivatives and the connections:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#/media/File:StarOffice_major_derivatives.svg

Read here for the history of LO, OOo, and others like NeoOffice or IBM
Symphony:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#History



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Old December 9th 19, 02:45 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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David Wrote in message:r
According to the article .....Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:Google DocsLibreOfficeOffice OnlineApple iWorkWPS OfficeCalligra OfficeDropBox PaperDetails he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...t-office/Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.orgTIA


Libre Office Is AFAIK a more advanced/more intensively developed
fork of OpenOffice.

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Old December 4th 19, 10:36 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On 2019-12-04, Libor Striz wrote:
Libre Office Is AFAIK a more advanced/more intensively developed
fork of OpenOffice.


OpenOffice had been pretty much in limbo last time I checked. It's main
advantage seems to be that it's fairly easy to set document format defaults
system-wide for multiple users by editing a config file. This is a feature
that Libreoffice lacks.

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Old December 4th 19, 10:56 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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David wrote in news:eSVFF.76022$BF1.75325
@fx26.iad:

According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.org

TIA


First thing get off w10 and ditch that microsoft habit, the internet will
survive without microsoft, the model of business that microsft is
building will soon collapse along with those adobe people who have been
making a good living, the road is long and you must endure for the best
is yet to come.

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Old December 4th 19, 11:11 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 22:56:58 +0000 (UTC), Nicodemus
wrote:

David wrote in news:eSVFF.76022$BF1.75325
:

According to the article .....

Here are the MS Office alternatives at a glance:

Google Docs
LibreOffice
Office Online
Apple iWork
WPS Office
Calligra Office
DropBox Paper

Details he https://fossbytes.com/best-alternati...rosoft-office/

Would you recommend one of the above for use with Windows 10 or would
you suggest Open Office? https://www.openoffice.org

TIA


First thing get off w10 and ditch that microsoft habit, the internet will
survive without microsoft, the model of business that microsft is
building will soon collapse along with those adobe people who have been
making a good living, the road is long and you must endure for the best
is yet to come.


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Old December 5th 19, 01:54 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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"Nicodemus" wrote

| First thing get off w10 and ditch that microsoft habit, the internet will
| survive without microsoft

The Internet will but business won't. It's the same
with Adobe. The two companies have such successful
monopolies that their overpaying customers hardly even
know that they're using the products. In business there
are no other products.

The woman I live with supervises grade-school teacher
trainees. Everyone wants to send her Google docs. Which
is not a doc but a spyware website. She insists on a file.
They send MSO X-files. She has MSO 2000 and Libre Office.
So she needs LO for most things. These people don't
understand how to save a docx as doc. Last night and
this morning she struggled to remove the background
colors (ink waste!) from a techer's schedule table made
as a PPTX and then print it. Various problems came up.
Finally the solution was to export as PDF. (Not SaveAs,
mind you. The OSS people have a religious dictum that
all program menus must have a File - Export item where
all useful file formats are hidden, breaking decades of
software menu tradition over format arrogance.)

It was no small project. LO couldn't handle printing what
it was showing. The woman who sent the PPTX probably has
no idea it's a PPTX. She just took some course on how to
appear as an official office person with official office person
skills. (And apparently she has HP stock. Her giant, multi-page
schedule table has different color backrounds in each cell.

So if you think MS and Adobe are going to collapse then
you'll have to start by telling millions of people who work
in offices and graphics shops what Microsoft and Adobe are.
They really don't know. Most don't even know they're using
Windows. (They do know if they're using Mac but that's only
because they paid twice what it's worth to show off the logo.)

| you must endure for the best
| is yet to come.
|

Oh? What would that be? The massively bloated LO that
can't install only one program, no longer supports XP,
includes Java crap, uses about 1/2 GB of disk space and
still can't support MSO files properly? Or are you perhaps
thinking of the 25 year old GIMP that's still not worth
wrestling with and last time I checked still didn't have a
real MDI GUI workspace?

OSS will never reach maturity until it has a reason beyond
geeks who want to impress their friends with their coding
prowess and resentment of Microsoft. Jealousy is not a
good motive for creating good software.

And top quality OSS will never come from people who
subscribe to the myth of cross-platform compatibility. If you
can't write it in native code then let someone else do it.
Don't try to fudge it with gobs of Java, Python, and
god-knows-what-else that don't really work.


 




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