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WIA and hibernation again
Jose wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:31 am, "William B. Lurie" wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing and if you can do without them - at least for testing. You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is, figure out what it's not. Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back. I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects, let me know. Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just delete it from RAM. There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program which I can uncheck for these tests. And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it. Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the Task List, unchecked and not in RAM. And further!!!! ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ... Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!! It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*. I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are. Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!! Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired 'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour? Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to run and look for updates periodically. It is configurable, but wants to look once a day. That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks. You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look for it yourself to see how to do these things. Look in Add/Remove Programs. Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them. Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!? Sorry, Jose.....I thought I had posted it. Here's the way it is now. ope you can read it. BTW, CCcleaner, when I ran it yesterday, cleaned out the "Run" places that I like to keep. You say those files are configurable, but I don't know how. I don't think I'll find them in Add/Remove..... http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/ccshot1.jpg |
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Jose wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:31 am, "William B. Lurie" wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Let's say you just disable 5 and test. No good? Do 5 more and test again. Works now? Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. Sooner or later (hours later), you will find the culprit. Maybe you can Google (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing and if you can do without them - at least for testing. You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and figure out if you can change it. If you can't figure out what it is, figure out what it's not. Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound and welcome and I started with the 7 you listed, overnight, taking them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back. I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects, let me know. Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just delete it from RAM. There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program which I can uncheck for these tests. And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it. Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the Task List, unchecked and not in RAM. And further!!!! ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ... Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!! It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*. I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are. Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!! Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired 'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour? Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to run and look for updates periodically. It is configurable, but wants to look once a day. That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks. You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look for it yourself to see how to do these things. Look in Add/Remove Programs. Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them. Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!? I see that ISUS and a few others got put back in my startup list. I have removed them again. I hope you can work with the really sanitized status that I sent before, and which it now has again. |
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On Mar 20, 11:38*am, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
Jose wrote: On Mar 19, 9:31 am, "William B. Lurie" wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Let's say you just disable 5 and test. *No good? *Do 5 more and test again. *Works now? *Turn 1 of the last 5 on and test again. *Sooner or later (hours later), you will find the culprit. *Maybe you can Google (yes it is now an official verb in the English language) the items to help you see what they do, if they are on some auto update/check thing and if you can do without them - at least for testing. You have many, many variables and the process of elimination may take less time than researching individual items to find out what they do. When you find the one that prevents hibernation, research that one and figure out if you can change it. *If you can't figure out what it is, figure out what it's not. Jose, my work on this will continue but very sporadic until after Sunday, because we have a daughter and 30-year old granddaughter visiting us and sharing the computer until then. Your advice is sound and welcome and I started with the 7 *you listed, overnight, taking them out of startup. Was no help. But I'll be back. I like to snip off a bunch of older stuff, so if anybody objects, let me know. Continuing on, since the computer is available, I have disabled many of the items, leaving only 3 questionable "user" items in the TaskManager list. I have to track down, for one thing, why RealSched keeps coming back onto the startup list even when I uncheck it. Not vital, because for the 2-hour test, I can just delete it from RAM. There is RTHDCPL.EXE which is some kind of Windows Audio program which I can uncheck for these tests. And there is RecGuard which also keeps coming back when I uncheck it. Maybe you can advise me on those. Anyway, I still have a running system with darn near everything that is "Compaq User" and suspicious in the Task List, unchecked and not in RAM. And further!!!! ISUSPM.exe and ISSCH.EXE ... Install Shield Update Service!!! And Scheduler!!!! It obviously runs without being asked to by *me*. I have searched but can't find out what the built-in parameters are. Maybe one of them runs every hour!!!! Anybody got any suggestions of built-in, hard-wired 'helpful' programs, like these, that maybe run every hour? Uncheck ISUSPM - that is the InstallShield stuff which does want to run and look for updates periodically. * It is configurable, but wants to look once a day. *That could mean after 1 hour of idle, it checks. You can change it, but I would uninstall it, but you will have to look for it yourself to see how to do these things. *Look in Add/Remove Programs. Reboot and if those processes are still running in TM, terminate them. Where is that CCcleaner Startup screenshot!? Sorry, Jose.....I thought I had posted it. Here's the way it is now. ope you can read it. BTW, CCcleaner, when I ran it yesterday, cleaned out the "Run" places that I like to keep. You say those files are configurable, but I don't know how. I don't think I'll find them in Add/Remove..... http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/ccshot1.jpg Almost. We need to see the Startup info: Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it. Example: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one hour sounds good, huh? Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting). Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them, then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked. Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show hidden files and folders): C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty. Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That would be just like me. |
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Jose wrote:
(snip) Almost. We need to see the Startup info: Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it. Example: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one hour sounds good, huh? Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting). Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them, then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked. Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show hidden files and folders): C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty. Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That would be just like me. Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these: http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting, cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again, every time. While booting up, I watch TM and I see that agent.exe goes into operation, and then disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty things. Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta find the rascal. |
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"William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Jose wrote: (snip) Almost. We need to see the Startup info: Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it. Example: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one hour sounds good, huh? Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting). Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them, then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked. Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show hidden files and folders): C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty. Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That would be just like me. Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these: http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting, cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again, every time. While booting up, I watch TM and I see that agent.exe goes into operation, and then disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty things. Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta find the rascal. This is where it is :- What is the isuspm.exe location, where is it stored on my computer? This file will be found on your hard drive at C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe " Bill |
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On Mar 20, 1:14*pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote:
Jose wrote: (snip) Almost. *We need to see the Startup info: Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup items are easy to see on one screen. * CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out later. *You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it. Example: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure it, I would uninstall it. *I will look some more. *It wants to update once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one hour sounds good, huh? Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. *What is left are things you or your other programs have installed. *If you see any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. *I can't recall in recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a lot of TMs. *If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting). Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them, then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have to install it myself (probably). *From what I read, it is all ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to install itself. *Their original WWW page is unhooked. Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show hidden files and folders): C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty. Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. *That would be just like me. Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these: http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting, cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again, every time. While booting up, I watch TM and I see that * agent.exe * *goes into operation, and then disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty things. Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta find the rascal. That's looking pretty good. You are getting the hang of it now! Next time, sort CCcleaner by the Enabled field by clicking the column heading so all the Yes items are at the top. Don't care about the No items. Drag the column headings so you can see more (make them wider). What you have is okay, but it will be more readable when you learn how to sort the columns and drag the column widths around so it is just wide enough to show all the characters - especially the File column. See my example - nice and wide, takes up the whole screen, then take the screen shot. If you see those IS things after reboot, just end them and realsched too. If something goes wrong just reboot and they will start up. Ending or disabling does not equal uninstalling. You are just trying to figure out what is keeping you from Hibernating, then you can figure out what to do about it when you know what it is. Kill whatever is suspicious and wait. I can't find a system with that IS junk on there, so I will have to figure out how to install it. You could just rename the executables where Bill P is pointing, and that may give you some error, but they won't start anymore! Check the Services tab in msconfig too and see if they are disableable. Can't find in in Add/Remove either? |
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Jose wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 pm, "William B. Lurie" wrote: Jose wrote: (snip) Almost. We need to see the Startup info: Click Tools, Startup and drag the columns around so all the Startup items are easy to see on one screen. CCleaner is good for this since it shows more information in a bigger display and CCLeaner has other useful functions you can check out later. You can uninstall CCleaner later if you don't use it. Example: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...nerstartup.jpg I could not find the correct way to uninstall the silly InstallShield thing and if it was me, I would not worry about trying to configure it, I would uninstall it. I will look some more. It wants to update once a day (at least) and will probably wait for an idle time and one hour sounds good, huh? Check in msconfig Service tab, Hide All Microsoft Services. What is left are things you or your other programs have installed. If you see any of that IS stuff there, disable it and reboot. I can't recall in recent memory when I have see that stuff in TM and I have looked at a lot of TMs. If something goes wrong, you can put stuff back through msconfig - that is what it is there for (troubleshooting). Check TM again after reboot - if you still see them, terminate them, then wait your 2 hours, or check Event Viewer in 1+ hours for those messages and I'll look for the best way to uninstall it even if I have to install it myself (probably). From what I read, it is all ridiculous crapola leftover from some other program that uses IS to install itself. Their original WWW page is unhooked. Most people have an IS folder here which is "normal" (enable show hidden files and folders): C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information I have an UpdateService folder, but my UpdateService folder is empty. Maybe I uninstalled it years ago when my XP was coming together. That would be just like me. Well, I think I'm getting more used to CCcleaner.....see these: http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1a.jpg http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/cc1b.jpg Clearing everything except HPBootop from Startup list, rebooting, cleaning everything in the User list (except the HP item) but not touching System items..... I find that rebooting causes issch.exe and realsched.exe and ISUSPM to be placed back in Startup again, every time. While booting up, I watch TM and I see that agent.exe goes into operation, and then disappears. Maybe that file gets executed and does these nasty things. Anyway, I did find the IS folder, but it has a few dozen lines that look like Registry entries but nothing that looks like a .exe or the like. I'd be willing to disable ISUSPM ..... but first I gotta find the rascal. That's looking pretty good. You are getting the hang of it now! Next time, sort CCcleaner by the Enabled field by clicking the column heading so all the Yes items are at the top. Don't care about the No items. Drag the column headings so you can see more (make them wider). What you have is okay, but it will be more readable when you learn how to sort the columns and drag the column widths around so it is just wide enough to show all the characters - especially the File column. See my example - nice and wide, takes up the whole screen, then take the screen shot. If you see those IS things after reboot, just end them and realsched too. If something goes wrong just reboot and they will start up. Ending or disabling does not equal uninstalling. You are just trying to figure out what is keeping you from Hibernating, then you can figure out what to do about it when you know what it is. Kill whatever is suspicious and wait. I can't find a system with that IS junk on there, so I will have to figure out how to install it. You could just rename the executables where Bill P is pointing, and that may give you some error, but they won't start anymore! Check the Services tab in msconfig too and see if they are disableable. Can't find in in Add/Remove either? Jose, except for refining what CC shows, I've been following you and I have taken a half dozen files, including realsched.exe, agent issch ISUSPM and just left hem in place, with their extension changed to .EXX ... As we agreed, it takes hours to let it run and go to hibernate and then bring it out to see if it's clean... but fortunately my house guests are out on other ventures in a strange land (South Florida) and I have time. When they're here the computer stays busy/ Hang loose. I think I'm almost ready to graduate from your tutoring course. |
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John John - MVP wrote:
If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John Just one more point: I am at the stage of using SP2 (not SP3) but I believe I have installed one of the SP3 'fixes' which were supposed to fix hibernate problems...... |
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John John - MVP wrote:
If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. |
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William; I compared my services with yours since my system does not fail to
hibernate. I'll post the differences. Do a Google search for 'viewpoint manager services'. Looks suspicious. I would also suspect Norton AntiVirus. Differences (not on my system) a LexBce Server lxct device Norton AntiVirus-------I would definately get rid of this. Pervasive PSQL Workgroup Engine Speed Disk Service------Part of Norton Viewpoint Manager Service "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... John John - MVP wrote: If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. |
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Dear Unk:
Thanks for working with me. I'll let John comment more on your list, but Norton Anti-Virus is my main protection and I don't leave home without it. I could, of course, disconnect from the phone line and disable it to see if somehow that's the cause. One thing at a time..... Unknown wrote: William; I compared my services with yours since my system does not fail to hibernate. I'll post the differences. Do a Google search for 'viewpoint manager services'. Looks suspicious. I would also suspect Norton AntiVirus. Differences (not on my system) a LexBce Server lxct device Norton AntiVirus-------I would definately get rid of this. Pervasive PSQL Workgroup Engine Speed Disk Service------Part of Norton Viewpoint Manager Service "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... John John - MVP wrote: If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
John John - MVP wrote: If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive. So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's your next advice? |
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WIA and hibernation again
William B. Lurie wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: John John - MVP wrote: If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive. So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's your next advice? Take a look in the Event Viewer and see if anything relevant is logged. Check the log on the clone too. John |
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WIA and hibernation again
John John - MVP wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: John John - MVP wrote: If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive. So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's your next advice? Take a look in the Event Viewer and see if anything relevant is logged. Check the log on the clone too. John I'll have to do the clean boot again to be sure, but I don't think it told a noteworthy story. But, because I, too, am suspicious that the Norton AV software is a likely suspect, I made a different test overnight, on this Master system. I disabled all Norton/Symantec entries in the services.msc list, disconnected from the phone line, and let it try to go to sleep at 10 P.M...... and when I checked nine hours later, the power light on the tower was flashing. So I immediately copied and saved the 3 pages in the Events Log, and will paste them in below. I was disappointed in a way, at not seeing the every-hour intervention, and I don't know if it's good news or not. What's your take on it? (I'm sorry for the length of the post; I haven't worked out the free uploading thing yet). But the overnight Events Log is surprisingly bare; maybe that does point the accusing finger at the Norton software. I can repeat that test overnight with just that one difference. Note the usual 7026 error when booting at 6:50 this morning, that I've mentioned before, and nothing else. I really ought to do the clean boot thing again on the clone, and record the Events Log. Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer Information 3/27/2010 6:49:21 AM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:49:19 AM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:45:45 AM SecurityCenter None 1800 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:44:02 AM Viewpoint Manager Service None 0 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:43:11 AM Norton Save and Restore Medium Priority 100 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:26 AM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:25 AM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:04 AM Security Policy Change 848 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:02 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:50:02 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:53 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:53 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:46 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:46 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:44 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:39 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:39 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:21 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:15 AM Security Logon/Logoff 540 ANONYMOUS LOGON COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:12 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:12 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:06 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:06 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:06 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:05 AM Security Policy Change 806 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Privilege Use 576 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Account Logon 680 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Logon/Logoff 538 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Privilege Use 576 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:04 AM Security Account Logon 680 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Privilege Use 576 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 LOCAL SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:02 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 518 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM Security System Event 514 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:47:55 AM Security System Event 513 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/27/2010 6:47:48 AM Security Logon/Logoff 551 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Success Audit 3/26/2010 10:29:50 PM Security System Event 517 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer Information 3/27/2010 7:02:21 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 7:02:20 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 7:00:55 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 7:00:55 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Error 3/27/2010 6:50:35 AM Service Control Manager None 7026 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:50:02 AM SRTSP None 2003 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:48:47 AM Tcpip None 4201 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM eventlog None 6005 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:49:01 AM eventlog None 6009 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:47:55 AM eventlog None 6006 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:45:45 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:45:45 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:44:02 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:44:02 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:56 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:56 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:49 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:42:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:41:19 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006 Information 3/27/2010 6:41:19 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006 |
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WIA and hibernation again
John John - MVP wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: John John - MVP wrote: If I understand correctly, you have the machine set to hibernate after 2 hours of inactivity but it can't enter the hibernation state because something keeps it awake... This is what I would try: Reboot the machine and don't do anything whatsoever after it boots, leave it alone for the time set for hibernation and see if it does hibernate. If it doesn't hibernate I would then try a clean boot and once again not touch the machine for the set time and see if it does hibernate. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353 How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state John John, I followed instructions. Touched NOTHING for 4 hours (hibernate set at 2). Power-on light on tower was flashing and it never went to hibernate. I'll read the Clean Boot instructions again. Last time I thought it was quite an effort, but this is this time. Maybe this evening. I took another small step, John. I like to try new things on my Clone system before I take a chance with my Main Drive......so I printed out KB310353 and followed its Method 2 on my clone system. It was very easy, and I did it and immediately went away for 2-3/4 hours ......and when I returned, the power light on my tower was blinking, the screen was on, and was not even in Screen Saver mode, which to me means that some Event occurred. It goes to Screen Saver at 10 minutes. I undid the msconfig changes and returned here, to my Master Drive. So I would judge that Clean Boot didn't show any difference. What's your next advice? Take a look in the Event Viewer and see if anything relevant is logged. Check the log on the clone too. John The scene changes again, John. I just heard from Symantec, that Norton AntiVirus does do Idle Time Scan. I had it set for "Quarterly" so it should not have interfered. But with their help, I reset it to *never* and maybe that will be the answer. I can live with no idle time scans. So put my other testing on hold while I find out if hibernate now works right. |
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