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Help With Standard VGA Drivers
I'm running XP Pro SP3.
I was using a Radeon 7200 32MB card, with no problems. I recently installed a Diamond Stealth S80 Radeon 9200SE 128MB card, and cannot get the appropriate video drivers to install. The 9200 card displays OK, but I can't get any drivers for it to load. Every time I try to load the drivers I get a message box that says: "Video Driver Not Found, Set up was unable to complete installation, try to set up your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running set up." I've done a lot of searching and tried many things but with no success. I tried selecting the /BASEVIDEO in boot.ini in msconfig and that did start the computer in basic video (640x480) but I still got the same errors when trying to load the Radeon drivers. I'm not sure if this is related, but in Device Manager: (1) there is no Display Adapter listed (though the Radeon 9200 does appear when I run System Information for Windows, and (2) the 'VIA CPU to AGP Controller' shows: "This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)." I tried to do an XP Repair and after I selected the Windows (option 1 of only 1) it asked for the Administrator password. I entered this and it went to DOS (C:\Windows). I didn't see anything there for repair, so I went back into Windows. Can anyone provide a solution to this problem? |
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I'm running XP Pro SP3. I was using a Radeon 7200 32MB card, with no problems. I recently installed a Diamond Stealth S80 Radeon 9200SE 128MB card, and cannot get the appropriate video drivers to install. The 9200 card displays OK, but I can't get any drivers for it to load. Every time I try to load the drivers I get a message box that says: "Video Driver Not Found, Set up was unable to complete installation, try to set up your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running set up." I've done a lot of searching and tried many things but with no success. I tried selecting the /BASEVIDEO in boot.ini in msconfig and that did start the computer in basic video (640x480) but I still got the same errors when trying to load the Radeon drivers. I'm not sure if this is related, but in Device Manager: (1) there is no Display Adapter listed (though the Radeon 9200 does appear when I run System Information for Windows, and (2) the 'VIA CPU to AGP Controller' shows: "This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)." I tried to do an XP Repair and after I selected the Windows (option 1 of only 1) it asked for the Administrator password. I entered this and it went to DOS (C:\Windows). I didn't see anything there for repair, so I went back into Windows. Can anyone provide a solution to this problem? http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...iversAuto.aspx Download and run; amddriverdownloader.exe NOTE: It is possible that Diamond may have a modified chip-set that won 't allow generic, non-Diamond, software. If there is software for your video card, remove the associated software though the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel applet and then install the software downloaded from AMD/ATI. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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On Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:49:45 AM UTC-5, David H. Lipman wrote:
I'm running XP Pro SP3. I was using a Radeon 7200 32MB card, with no problems. I recently installed a Diamond Stealth S80 Radeon 9200SE 128MB card, and cannot get the appropriate video drivers to install. The 9200 card displays OK, but I can't get any drivers for it to load. Every time I try to load the drivers I get a message box that says: "Video Driver Not Found, Set up was unable to complete installation, try to set up your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running set up." I've done a lot of searching and tried many things but with no success. I tried selecting the /BASEVIDEO in boot.ini in msconfig and that did start the computer in basic video (640x480) but I still got the same errors when trying to load the Radeon drivers. I'm not sure if this is related, but in Device Manager: (1) there is no Display Adapter listed (though the Radeon 9200 does appear when I run System Information for Windows, and (2) the 'VIA CPU to AGP Controller' shows: "This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)." I tried to do an XP Repair and after I selected the Windows (option 1 of only 1) it asked for the Administrator password. I entered this and it went to DOS (C:\Windows). I didn't see anything there for repair, so I went back into Windows. Can anyone provide a solution to this problem? http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...iversAuto.aspx Download and run; amddriverdownloader.exe NOTE: It is possible that Diamond may have a modified chip-set that won 't allow generic, non-Diamond, software. If there is software for your video card, remove the associated software though the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel applet and then install the software downloaded from AMD/ATI. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp I couldn't get the AMD Driver Downloader software to work. The Radeon 9200SE card does not appear in the Device Manager, but it does show up in System Information for Windows (SIW) software. Since it does not appear in Device Manager, I couldn't uninstall the drivers for it. The Add/Remove Programs doesn't show any software for any video cards. The only way I've been able to get the new card to work properly is to Repair the XP installation, which isn't a very efficient approach. When the Repair is complete and I restart, the 9200SE card is recognized and the various settings are available, without my having loaded any specific drivers from ATI or Diamond. I found software for backing up drivers and it backed up drivers for both the 9200 and 7200 cards. Questions: 1. Is there a way to do a Repair for only the video drivers? 2. Is there a way that I can remove only the Radeon 7200 drivers? Thanks again for any help. |
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http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...iversAuto.aspx Download and run; amddriverdownloader.exe NOTE: It is possible that Diamond may have a modified chip-set that won 't allow generic, non-Diamond, software. If there is software for your video card, remove the associated software though the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel applet and then install the software downloaded from AMD/ATI. I couldn't get the AMD Driver Downloader software to work. The Radeon 9200SE card does not appear in the Device Manager, but it does show up in System Information for Windows (SIW) software. Since it does not appear in Device Manager, I couldn't uninstall the drivers for it. The Add/Remove Programs doesn't show any software for any video cards. The only way I've been able to get the new card to work properly is to Repair the XP installation, which isn't a very efficient approach. When the Repair is complete and I restart, the 9200SE card is recognized and the various settings are available, without my having loaded any specific drivers from ATI or Diamond. I found software for backing up drivers and it backed up drivers for both the 9200 and 7200 cards. Questions: 1. Is there a way to do a Repair for only the video drivers? 2. Is there a way that I can remove only the Radeon 7200 drivers? Thanks again for any help. http://www.diamondmm.com/support.php -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |
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... On Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:49:45 AM UTC-5, David H. Lipman wrote: I'm running XP Pro SP3. I was using a Radeon 7200 32MB card, with no problems. I recently installed a Diamond Stealth S80 Radeon 9200SE 128MB card, and cannot get the appropriate video drivers to install. The 9200 card displays OK, but I can't get any drivers for it to load. Every time I try to load the drivers I get a message box that says: "Video Driver Not Found, Set up was unable to complete installation, try to set up your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running set up." I've done a lot of searching and tried many things but with no success. I tried selecting the /BASEVIDEO in boot.ini in msconfig and that did start the computer in basic video (640x480) but I still got the same errors when trying to load the Radeon drivers. I'm not sure if this is related, but in Device Manager: (1) there is no Display Adapter listed (though the Radeon 9200 does appear when I run System Information for Windows, and (2) the 'VIA CPU to AGP Controller' shows: "This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)." I tried to do an XP Repair and after I selected the Windows (option 1 of only 1) it asked for the Administrator password. I entered this and it went to DOS (C:\Windows). I didn't see anything there for repair, so I went back into Windows. Can anyone provide a solution to this problem? http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...iversAuto.aspx Download and run; amddriverdownloader.exe NOTE: It is possible that Diamond may have a modified chip-set that won 't allow generic, non-Diamond, software. If there is software for your video card, remove the associated software though the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel applet and then install the software downloaded from AMD/ATI. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp I couldn't get the AMD Driver Downloader software to work. The Radeon 9200SE card does not appear in the Device Manager, but it does show up in System Information for Windows (SIW) software. Since it does not appear in Device Manager, I couldn't uninstall the drivers for it. The Add/Remove Programs doesn't show any software for any video cards. The only way I've been able to get the new card to work properly is to Repair the XP installation, which isn't a very efficient approach. When the Repair is complete and I restart, the 9200SE card is recognized and the various settings are available, without my having loaded any specific drivers from ATI or Diamond. I found software for backing up drivers and it backed up drivers for both the 9200 and 7200 cards. Questions: 1. Is there a way to do a Repair for only the video drivers? 2. Is there a way that I can remove only the Radeon 7200 drivers? Thanks again for any help. It sounds like your BIOS is assigning resources incorrectly with that card. You went from a video card with 32-MB of memory to one with 128-MB. Possibly, your BIOS or the chipset on that motherboard can't handle the 128-MB of memory on the new video card. See if there is a BIOS update from the motherboard manufacturer that addresses that. If not, you may not be able to use a video card with that amount of RAM on it..... or it may be a chipset incompatibility between the new card and the motherboard. It's not uncommon. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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... It sounds like your BIOS is assigning resources incorrectly with that card. You went from a video card with 32-MB of memory to one with 128-MB. Possibly, your BIOS or the chipset on that motherboard can't handle the 128-MB of memory on the new video card. See if there is a BIOS update from the motherboard manufacturer that addresses that. If not, you may not be able to use a video card with that amount of RAM on it..... or it may be a chipset incompatibility between the new card and the motherboard. It's not uncommon. It's also possible that playing with the AGP Aperture size in the BIOS Setup might help. Check that your RAM is in the right slots for dual channel if supported, and in the #1 slot pair if you have more slots than RAM sticks. In Windows, try removing ALL video drivers for both cards... if AMD/ATi still have a driver removal tool, use it to start clean with drivers, set the AGP Aperture to 128, and then try installing the correct drivers. Also make sure you have the right chipset drivers installed for the motherboard.... looks like you have a VIA chipset. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:09:35 PM UTC-5, glee wrote:
"glee" wrote in message ... It sounds like your BIOS is assigning resources incorrectly with that card. You went from a video card with 32-MB of memory to one with 128-MB. Possibly, your BIOS or the chipset on that motherboard can't handle the 128-MB of memory on the new video card. See if there is a BIOS update from the motherboard manufacturer that addresses that. If not, you may not be able to use a video card with that amount of RAM on it..... or it may be a chipset incompatibility between the new card and the motherboard. It's not uncommon. It's also possible that playing with the AGP Aperture size in the BIOS Setup might help. Check that your RAM is in the right slots for dual channel if supported, and in the #1 slot pair if you have more slots than RAM sticks. In Windows, try removing ALL video drivers for both cards... if AMD/ATi still have a driver removal tool, use it to start clean with drivers, set the AGP Aperture to 128, and then try installing the correct drivers. Also make sure you have the right chipset drivers installed for the motherboard.... looks like you have a VIA chipset. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ I do have the AGP Aperture set to 128, even though the 9200 card's brochure says to set it at 1/4 of the card's memory. I'm now using the 7200 card, no problems at all. When I installed the 9200, I had to do a Windows Reinstall to reload the standard video drivers and the card worked fine using only the XP drivers, and it shows in Device Manager / Display Adapters. But, and I'm not sure of the sequence here, when I tried to use a rammdisk software (VSuite Ramdisk), after the restart, the 9200 drivers disappeared, as it did from the Display Adapters. I don't understand why the VSuite Ramdisk software would interfere with the video card's drivers, but it does. I tried restoring the drivers from the Drivers Backup! software, but that didn't work. Is there a shortcut I can use to get the appropriate video drivers for the 9200 reloaded; i.e., without having to do a Reinstall, when the card does not appear in the Display Adapters? |
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... On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:09:35 PM UTC-5, glee wrote: "glee" wrote in message ... It sounds like your BIOS is assigning resources incorrectly with that card. You went from a video card with 32-MB of memory to one with 128-MB. Possibly, your BIOS or the chipset on that motherboard can't handle the 128-MB of memory on the new video card. See if there is a BIOS update from the motherboard manufacturer that addresses that. If not, you may not be able to use a video card with that amount of RAM on it..... or it may be a chipset incompatibility between the new card and the motherboard. It's not uncommon. It's also possible that playing with the AGP Aperture size in the BIOS Setup might help. Check that your RAM is in the right slots for dual channel if supported, and in the #1 slot pair if you have more slots than RAM sticks. In Windows, try removing ALL video drivers for both cards... if AMD/ATi still have a driver removal tool, use it to start clean with drivers, set the AGP Aperture to 128, and then try installing the correct drivers. Also make sure you have the right chipset drivers installed for the motherboard.... looks like you have a VIA chipset. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ I do have the AGP Aperture set to 128, even though the 9200 card's brochure says to set it at 1/4 of the card's memory. I'm now using the 7200 card, no problems at all. When I installed the 9200, I had to do a Windows Reinstall to reload the standard video drivers and the card worked fine using only the XP drivers, and it shows in Device Manager / Display Adapters. But, and I'm not sure of the sequence here, when I tried to use a rammdisk software (VSuite Ramdisk), after the restart, the 9200 drivers disappeared, as it did from the Display Adapters. I don't understand why the VSuite Ramdisk software would interfere with the video card's drivers, but it does. I tried restoring the drivers from the Drivers Backup! software, but that didn't work. Is there a shortcut I can use to get the appropriate video drivers for the 9200 reloaded; i.e., without having to do a Reinstall, when the card does not appear in the Display Adapters? Use the drivers for the Radeon that Windows is supplying, if they work and the card appears correctly in Device Manager with them installed. If the other drivers you have tried do not install or cause the issues you are seeing, don't use them. I'm not sure why you want to. You have not said if you have checked whether your BIOS supports the card in question. The RAM disk software creates a RAM disk from part of the system memory. An AGP card has direct memory access to system memory and uses a portion of system RAM as the AGP aperture. If you have a flaky RAM stick, or if the RAM is not in the primary slots, or not in the right slots for dual channel if available, anything that utilizes RAM could be affected adversely. If your chipset is not fully compatible with the newer Radeon card, the problems could appear only when that card is installed. If the aperture is already set to 128, then try setting it lower... 64 or 32. Personally, I think the issue is elsewhere. You have not given any info about the system involved.... the motherboard model, the amount of RAM, the number of system RAM slots and how many are occupied, which slots are being used and if the system uses dual channel mode or is capable of it, the computer model if a brand name system. You did not say if the VIA CPU to AGP Controller shows a code 12 when the Windows drivers are in use, or only when you load the 3rd party Radeon drivers. You have not said what motherboard chipset drivers are loaded from VIA. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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On Saturday, March 2, 2013 10:04:26 AM UTC-5, glee wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:09:35 PM UTC-5, glee wrote: "glee" wrote in message ... It sounds like your BIOS is assigning resources incorrectly with that card. You went from a video card with 32-MB of memory to one with 128-MB. Possibly, your BIOS or the chipset on that motherboard can't handle the 128-MB of memory on the new video card. See if there is a BIOS update from the motherboard manufacturer that addresses that. If not, you may not be able to use a video card with that amount of RAM on it..... or it may be a chipset incompatibility between the new card and the motherboard. It's not uncommon. It's also possible that playing with the AGP Aperture size in the BIOS Setup might help. Check that your RAM is in the right slots for dual channel if supported, and in the #1 slot pair if you have more slots than RAM sticks. In Windows, try removing ALL video drivers for both cards... if AMD/ATi still have a driver removal tool, use it to start clean with drivers, set the AGP Aperture to 128, and then try installing the correct drivers. Also make sure you have the right chipset drivers installed for the motherboard.... looks like you have a VIA chipset. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ I do have the AGP Aperture set to 128, even though the 9200 card's brochure says to set it at 1/4 of the card's memory. I'm now using the 7200 card, no problems at all. When I installed the 9200, I had to do a Windows Reinstall to reload the standard video drivers and the card worked fine using only the XP drivers, and it shows in Device Manager / Display Adapters. But, and I'm not sure of the sequence here, when I tried to use a rammdisk software (VSuite Ramdisk), after the restart, the 9200 drivers disappeared, as it did from the Display Adapters. I don't understand why the VSuite Ramdisk software would interfere with the video card's drivers, but it does. I tried restoring the drivers from the Drivers Backup! software, but that didn't work. Is there a shortcut I can use to get the appropriate video drivers for the 9200 reloaded; i.e., without having to do a Reinstall, when the card does not appear in the Display Adapters? Use the drivers for the Radeon that Windows is supplying, if they work and the card appears correctly in Device Manager with them installed. If the other drivers you have tried do not install or cause the issues you are seeing, don't use them. I'm not sure why you want to. You have not said if you have checked whether your BIOS supports the card in question. The RAM disk software creates a RAM disk from part of the system memory. An AGP card has direct memory access to system memory and uses a portion of system RAM as the AGP aperture. If you have a flaky RAM stick, or if the RAM is not in the primary slots, or not in the right slots for dual channel if available, anything that utilizes RAM could be affected adversely. If your chipset is not fully compatible with the newer Radeon card, the problems could appear only when that card is installed. If the aperture is already set to 128, then try setting it lower... 64 or 32. Personally, I think the issue is elsewhere. You have not given any info about the system involved.... the motherboard model, the amount of RAM, the number of system RAM slots and how many are occupied, which slots are being used and if the system uses dual channel mode or is capable of it, the computer model if a brand name system. You did not say if the VIA CPU to AGP Controller shows a code 12 when the Windows drivers are in use, or only when you load the 3rd party Radeon drivers. You have not said what motherboard chipset drivers are loaded from VIA. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ The 9200 card only appears in Device Manager / Display Adapters after I have done a Reinstall. Restarting the computer initially with the 9200 does not load the correct drivers, only some basic ones that allow three resolutions. The Reinstall does load the necessary drivers, but as I've said and I'm sure you know, this is not a short process. That is why I asked if there is a short, easy to accomplish process for reloading just the video drivers. The motherboard is an MSI KT3 Ultra; three sticks of PC2700 1GB DDR Ram (all three slots used); not dual channel capable as far as I know; AMD Athlon 1800+ CPU. A non-name brand computer. It's been a while, but I believe that when the 9200 is installed and no cards appear in Display Adapters, the VIA CPU to APG error appears, and it is the 'code 12' you noted. I believe I have the latest motherboard chipset drivers. The North Bridge is VIA VT8367 Apollo KT333, the South Bridge is VIA VT8233(A). Many thanks for your comments. |
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... The 9200 card only appears in Device Manager / Display Adapters after I have done a Reinstall. Restarting the computer initially with the 9200 does not load the correct drivers, only some basic ones that allow three resolutions. The Reinstall does load the necessary drivers, but as I've said and I'm sure you know, this is not a short process. That is why I asked if there is a short, easy to accomplish process for reloading just the video drivers. The motherboard is an MSI KT3 Ultra; three sticks of PC2700 1GB DDR Ram (all three slots used); not dual channel capable as far as I know; AMD Athlon 1800+ CPU. A non-name brand computer. It's been a while, but I believe that when the 9200 is installed and no cards appear in Display Adapters, the VIA CPU to APG error appears, and it is the 'code 12' you noted. I believe I have the latest motherboard chipset drivers. The North Bridge is VIA VT8367 Apollo KT333, the South Bridge is VIA VT8233(A). Many thanks for your comments. You install the display drivers from a CD or download, and the issues you described appear. At that point, if you can't roll back the drivers in the Display Adapter properties in Device Manager, because the adapter is missing from Device Manager, use System Restore to restore your system to the restore point just prior to installing the problem driver. That's what System Restore is for. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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