Canon MV450i and firewire problem - camera not being recognized

wrote in message
oups.com...
As you cannot see the camcorder at all in the pc I'd suspect some sort of
hardware fault and direct you back to the testing I have listed on the
page
I linked to earlier.

Decoder - Thanks for taking the time to produce that document, I'm
extremely impressed!. I've sent a doc to same mail account showing my
own set-up, and how it differs.

Graham - I've tried the new cable which arrived this morning, with the
same result - failure. I have already been through pretty much all the
tests I can think of - including opening the machine and swapping cards
around.
Next steps would seem to be to 1) take the camera and cable elsewhere
and find another machine with a 1394 port to test it.
AND/OR 2) buy a new Firewire card.

Once again, thank you everyone for the attention. Am very impressed
with the video community, seemingly untouched by too many trolls and
troublemakers and abusive types!.

Kind regards

Andy


Hi
Your Firewire card is doubtful to be the fault.
It's listed correctly as host controller, the two ports are included within
this heading. Your web cam is USB, that is why it and other USB devices
will be listed in Device manager, but firewire devices are not.
Your word doc failed to show most screen captures?
But I bet my bottom dollar it's a configuration setting within the DV cam
itself?
It's now tricky for you as you will have to try a process of trial and
error-
Try your cam on another PC and/or try another DV or firewire device on
your PC!
Try this dedicated DV forum, hopefully you'll find other Canon users
with a solution
Good luck.

http://www.dvspot.com/forums/

wrote in message
oups.com...
As you cannot see the camcorder at all in the pc I'd suspect some sort of
hardware fault and direct you back to the testing I have listed on the
page
I linked to earlier.

Decoder - Thanks for taking the time to produce that document, I'm
extremely impressed!. I've sent a doc to same mail account showing my
own set-up, and how it differs.

Graham - I've tried the new cable which arrived this morning, with the
same result - failure. I have already been through pretty much all the
tests I can think of - including opening the machine and swapping cards
around.
Next steps would seem to be to 1) take the camera and cable elsewhere
and find another machine with a 1394 port to test it.
AND/OR 2) buy a new Firewire card.

Once again, thank you everyone for the attention. Am very impressed
with the video community, seemingly untouched by too many trolls and
troublemakers and abusive types!.

Kind regards

Andy


Hi
Apoligies for hounding you, especially as I didn't produce a solution,
BUT...
I now *need* to know the result! Also, I'm determined we are going to
get your Canon and Dell to function normally, it is now my mission in life!
Your Canon will have "analog" outputs -
I'd like if you'd try with analog devices such as TV or VCR -
This unfortunately may involve you in the added expense of the
relevent interconnect's.... cheap products will do fine.....
If you are UK, I'm more than happy to mail you such cables,
just email address details to the posting addy that I used for
the post to canon_firewire (decoder etc).............
Your camcorder will have either/both, S-Video/composite outputs -
Your TV/VCR will also have similar input(s) -
Connect the cam to TV and/or VCR -
Then fiddle about with your camcorders menu's to see if you
can produce an image on your TV or capture to VCR via their
analog inputs -
If successful, then the *setting* on the cam that resulted in an
image either being produced on a TV screen or captured to VCR
is also the *setting* that should be chosen when transferring data
to firewire input of your Dell PC, the only addition to this maze is
that your cam's output menu *must* also include that all important
"DV-OUT" option to be also selected.

I continue to be amazed by your helpfulness, decoder.

It's early Sunday morning, and I'm just off out for the day, so I may
not be able to do this today but I will follow your suggestions and
report back.

Thanks again for your help,

Will

Hiya,

I have exactly the same problem as you with a Canon MV 450i. I'm trying to
connect it to my Toshiba laptop via a 4 pin/4 pin Belkin firewire cable and
nothing I do will make the thing show up on the computer.

Have you discovered a fix yet? It's driving me insane!!

Cheers,
Alex


" wrote:

As you cannot see the camcorder at all in the pc I'd suspect some sort of
hardware fault and direct you back to the testing I have listed on the
page
I linked to earlier.

Decoder - Thanks for taking the time to produce that document, I'm
extremely impressed!. I've sent a doc to same mail account showing my
own set-up, and how it differs.

Graham - I've tried the new cable which arrived this morning, with the
same result - failure. I have already been through pretty much all the
tests I can think of - including opening the machine and swapping cards
around.
Next steps would seem to be to 1) take the camera and cable elsewhere
and find another machine with a 1394 port to test it.
AND/OR 2) buy a new Firewire card.

Once again, thank you everyone for the attention. Am very impressed
with the video community, seemingly untouched by too many trolls and
troublemakers and abusive types!.

Kind regards

Andy

Sorted it!

The device did show up in Device Manager under 'Imaging devices' as
'Microsoft DV Camera and VCR' (even though it's Canon!) when I connected
through a 4 pin/4 pin firewire cable. I still can't see it in My Computer by
the way.

I went to a site that Graham Hughes posted for you:
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Probl...notCapture.htm and downloaded
a little piece of software called WinDV from he http://windv.mourek.cz/ -
it's just an .exe and all I did was rewind the Mini DV tape on the camcorder
and play it and then click 'capture' in WinDV whilst the 'capturing from DV'
tab was selected and hey presto my video was playing on the laptop screen and
was saved into various files of varying lengths (for some reason) on my
desktop.

Hope this helps if you haven't discovered a fix already.

Well done Graham and thank you very much!

Cheers,
Alex

" wrote:

I continue to be amazed by your helpfulness, decoder.

It's early Sunday morning, and I'm just off out for the day, so I may
not be able to do this today but I will follow your suggestions and
report back.

Thanks again for your help,

Will

Thanks for the kind words and well done for sorting it yourself.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"canibal100" wrote in message
...
Sorted it!

The device did show up in Device Manager under 'Imaging devices' as
'Microsoft DV Camera and VCR' (even though it's Canon!) when I connected
through a 4 pin/4 pin firewire cable. I still can't see it in My Computer
by
the way.

I went to a site that Graham Hughes posted for you:
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Probl...notCapture.htm and
downloaded
a little piece of software called WinDV from he
ttp://windv.mourek.cz/ -
it's just an .exe and all I did was rewind the Mini DV tape on the
camcorder
and play it and then click 'capture' in WinDV whilst the 'capturing from
DV'
tab was selected and hey presto my video was playing on the laptop screen
and
was saved into various files of varying lengths (for some reason) on my
desktop.

Hope this helps if you haven't discovered a fix already.

Well done Graham and thank you very much!

Cheers,
Alex

" wrote:

I continue to be amazed by your helpfulness, decoder.

It's early Sunday morning, and I'm just off out for the day, so I may
not be able to do this today but I will follow your suggestions and
report back.

Thanks again for your help,

Will