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Old May 31st 08, 01:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ritter 197
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Default tracert times out

I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out, yet
I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?

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Old May 31st 08, 05:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
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Default tracert times out

"Ritter 197" wrote in
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I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out, yet
I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?


Note: This is not a hardware issue. microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
was removed from my reply.

Have you tried upping the timeout? It's a command-line parameter to
'tracert'. If you are using a firewall, did it allow both TCP *and* UDP
traffic for that application? Some firewall are screwed up as delivered
at install-time by blocking ALL ping requests, including the return from
tracert (Comodo v3 was like that and I don't know if they fixed it).
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Old June 1st 08, 02:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
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Default tracert times out

I use TREND MICRO Pro. Ping always times out. Time out is 2 seconds.
I do not know where to increase the time out period. When I go into the
TREND Micro database and search for "ping" or "timeout" it finds nothing.

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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"Ritter 197" wrote in
:

I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out,
yet
I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?


Note: This is not a hardware issue. microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
was removed from my reply.

Have you tried upping the timeout? It's a command-line parameter to
'tracert'. If you are using a firewall, did it allow both TCP *and* UDP
traffic for that application? Some firewall are screwed up as delivered
at install-time by blocking ALL ping requests, including the return from
tracert (Comodo v3 was like that and I don't know if they fixed it).


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Old June 1st 08, 05:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
neil
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Default tracert times out

So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt window it
times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...
I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out, yet
I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?



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Old June 2nd 08, 12:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ritter 197
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Default tracert times out

yes, mine times out. have tried it now many times.

"neil" wrote in message
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So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt window it
times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...
I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out,
yet I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?



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Old June 2nd 08, 01:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
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Default tracert times out

Ritter 197 wrote:
yes, mine times out. have tried it now many times.

"neil" wrote in message
...
So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt
window it times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...
I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times
out, yet I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?



I've been *told* that a single hop timeout is not an issue. Especially
if it gets to the end of the route.
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Old June 2nd 08, 02:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Ritter 197
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Default tracert times out

ALL hops timed out. 30 of them.

"Big Al" wrote in message
news:nXG0k.1093$jX.28@trnddc04...
Ritter 197 wrote:
yes, mine times out. have tried it now many times.

"neil" wrote in message
...
So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt window
it times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...
I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out,
yet I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?


I've been *told* that a single hop timeout is not an issue. Especially
if it gets to the end of the route.


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Old June 2nd 08, 02:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Paul
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Default tracert times out

Ritter 197 wrote:
ALL hops timed out. 30 of them.


There is some background information on traceroute here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracert

What if an important port number was blocked by Comcast
for their own customers ? That might mean the difference
between a Comcast customer running the test, and those
of us outside the Comcast network running the test.
I didn't have any problem running traceroute here,
against either www.comcast.net or just comcast.net,
and I'm outside Comcast.

Maybe you can make enough sense out of that Wikipedia
article, to come up with another test. Perhaps your
own firewall is the reason the test failed.

Comcast had some issues just recently, and may have
made adjustments to their network in an effort to
figure out the problem. And in any case, like any
ISP, if you phone up and ask them a question, you'll
get that "we're innocent" routine. Tech support will
never admit to any filtering, even if it is for good
and logical reasons.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11925

Paul


"Big Al" wrote in message
news:nXG0k.1093$jX.28@trnddc04...
Ritter 197 wrote:
yes, mine times out. have tried it now many times.

"neil" wrote in message
...
So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt
window it times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...
I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times
out, yet I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?


I've been *told* that a single hop timeout is not an issue.
Especially if it gets to the end of the route.


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Old June 2nd 08, 02:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Bob I
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Default tracert times out

How about firewall interference?

Ritter 197 wrote:

ALL hops timed out. 30 of them.

"Big Al" wrote in message
news:nXG0k.1093$jX.28@trnddc04...

Ritter 197 wrote:

yes, mine times out. have tried it now many times.

"neil" wrote in message
...

So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt
window it times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...

I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times
out, yet I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?



I've been *told* that a single hop timeout is not an issue.
Especially if it gets to the end of the route.




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Old June 2nd 08, 03:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Twayne[_2_]
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Default tracert times out

yes, mine times out. have tried it now many times.

"neil" wrote in message
...
So when you type "tracert www.comcast.net" into a command prompt
window it times out, I've just tried it and it's ok in 9 hops.
Neil
"Ritter 197" wrote in message
...
I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times
out, yet I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?



Most of the Comcast servers will not respond to a tracert probe. It's
normal and not under your control. Many ISPs to it to limit traffic
during high traffic times and/or to prevent probes from internet static.
Nothing you can do about it.


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Old June 3rd 08, 11:09 AM
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It is possible that one of the routers (probably the one you connect through) has been set to not reply to Pings. Tracert uses ICMP pings to work it way through, and if pings are being blocked it will not work, and timeout.

Oviraptor


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I want to do a tracert on comcast.net (my ISP) and it always times out, yet
I can get e-mail and see newsgroups.

What does it mean then and what to do to do a tracert?
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Old July 12th 08, 09:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Jeff Cook[_2_]
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Default Tracert and TrendMicro Firewall

I've run into the same issue with tracert and the TrendMicro Firewall. If your Firewall is set to any level above MINIMUM, tracert doesn't work to any IP. Set your firewall to minimum and it will probably work.
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Old July 12th 08, 10:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Jeff Cook[_2_]
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I was trying to get ping and tracert to work with Trend Micro's Firewall set to Maximum and discovered the fix.

In the advanced settings of the Firewall, add both programs as allowed. Then go to the Network Control Protocol window and add two rules. One to allow Outgoing ICMP (this opened up PING) and another to allow Incoming ICMP (this fixed TRACERT).

I still show up as fully stealthed even in the DMZ on my router with Trend's firewall at low.

YMMV
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Old July 12th 08, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Cook[_2_] View Post
I was trying to get ping and tracert to work with Trend Micro's Firewall set to Maximum and discovered the fix.

In the advanced settings of the Firewall, add both programs as allowed. Then go to the Network Control Protocol window and add two rules. One to allow Outgoing ICMP (this opened up PING) and another to allow Incoming ICMP (this fixed TRACERT).

I still show up as fully stealthed even in the DMZ on my router with Trend's firewall at low.

YMMV
If you notice your tracert may no be going to comcast at all. I just did this one and...

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admintracert www.comcast.net

Tracing route to a1526.g.akamai.net [70.183.191.137]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 10.71.128.1
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6

Tke DNS took me to akamai, but then I hit ping blocking.

If I did the correct address I get

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Admintracert comcast.net

Tracing route to comcast.net [63.240.76.72]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.71.128.1
3 * *


Ping blocking still gets in the way though.

So you do have to be very careful what address you are actually using.
 




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