Again XP really slow opening interbase database and crashing my appusing crystal reports.

Ran fine on xp sp1 and win2k sp4

What dll's were radically changed by MS between theses OS issues. How
do I find out?

MrT wrote:
Ran fine on xp sp1 and win2k sp4

What dll's were radically changed by MS between theses OS issues.
How do I find out?

Have you contacted those who support Interbase/Crytsal Reports and verified
you are using a compatible version/updated version of their software?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Shenan Stanley wrote:
MrT wrote:
Ran fine on xp sp1 and win2k sp4

What dll's were radically changed by MS between theses OS issues.
How do I find out?

Have you contacted those who support Interbase/Crytsal Reports and verified
you are using a compatible version/updated version of their software?


Hi:

Thanks.

It was running fine on 2k SP4 and XP sp1. Are you implying that MS
issues SP/updates that can compromise existing apps?

It looks like you have a classic problem of dos programs running in XP
with SP2 or higher. I was running Borland Pascal on XP SP2 at one time in
the past and the solution was to make the installed directory of the
program readable and writeable by everybody. To do this you need to make
the folder "share this folder on the network" and also "Allow network
users to change my files".

Database, by its very nature is dynamic and so the data is changed
dynamically and so the folder should be writeable.

hth

MrT wrote:

Ran fine on xp sp1 and win2k sp4

What dll's were radically changed by MS between theses OS issues. How
do I find out?

MrT wrote:
It was running fine on 2k SP4 and XP sp1. Are you implying that MS
issues SP/updates that can compromise existing apps?

I'm saying that Microsoft does not support the third party applications you
choose to run - thus their patches may change something a third party
application you use has chosen to utilize for its own purposes.

If you purchase a vehicle and get an after-market part for it and later - a
recall on the car (something has been deemed dangerous in some way) changes
the part your after-market part fits on in such a way that the after-market
part no longer fits... Well - it's not the original manufacturer's
responsibility to make your after-market part fit (nor will the after-market
part manufacturer do much but offer to sell you a new after-market part that
does the same thing except fits the new situation.)

Your third party applications, your hardware, etc - all of those things are
supported by the manufacturers. Microsoft makes and patches their part of
the equation and they cannot (think of the millions of applications and the
millions of versions on top of that for the many different OSes out there)
make sure someone else has not linked into some component they are changing
to make the OS run better, faster, more secure, etc.

An application is written for a specific OS and sometimes a specific Service
Pack (when speaking of Windows OSes.) Check out the packaging of the
applications in the stores someday... "Requirements: Windows XP SP3 or
greater" and the likes. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

sometimes there are programs
that need to be reinstalled or
updated when the o.s. is updated.

not all programs are engineered
that way but yours could be.

but it seems that the makers of
crystal reports or the program
that has it as an add-in/module,
should have a solution,

since it is likely that they incurred
the same problem like yours.

incidentally, try a clean booting
normal mode and see if it helps
any with the performance of
windows and your database.

--
db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- @Hotmail.com
- nntp Postologist
~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"MrT" wrote in message
...
Ran fine on xp sp1 and win2k sp4

What dll's were radically changed by MS between theses OS issues. How do
I find out?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
MrT wrote:
It was running fine on 2k SP4 and XP sp1. Are you implying that MS
issues SP/updates that can compromise existing apps?

I'm saying that Microsoft does not support the third party applications you
choose to run - thus their patches may change something a third party
application you use has chosen to utilize for its own purposes.

If you purchase a vehicle and get an after-market part for it and later - a
recall on the car (something has been deemed dangerous in some way) changes
the part your after-market part fits on in such a way that the after-market
part no longer fits... Well - it's not the original manufacturer's
responsibility to make your after-market part fit (nor will the after-market
part manufacturer do much but offer to sell you a new after-market part that
does the same thing except fits the new situation.)

Your third party applications, your hardware, etc - all of those things are
supported by the manufacturers. Microsoft makes and patches their part of
the equation and they cannot (think of the millions of applications and the
millions of versions on top of that for the many different OSes out there)
make sure someone else has not linked into some component they are changing
to make the OS run better, faster, more secure, etc.

An application is written for a specific OS and sometimes a specific Service
Pack (when speaking of Windows OSes.) Check out the packaging of the
applications in the stores someday... "Requirements: Windows XP SP3 or
greater" and the likes. ;-)


Thanks. Understand. I did a compare between older (win2k sp 4) and newer
xp (sp2) dll's. Fo the newer version in xp I will put the old dll in the
local directory where the app is located so it will find those first.
Worth a try.

db wrote:
sometimes there are programs
that need to be reinstalled or
updated when the o.s. is updated.

not all programs are engineered
that way but yours could be.

but it seems that the makers of
crystal reports or the program
that has it as an add-in/module,
should have a solution,

since it is likely that they incurred
the same problem like yours.

incidentally, try a clean booting
normal mode and see if it helps
any with the performance of
windows and your database.


What is clean booting normal mode??? Isn't that the normal boot???

a clean boot is a method
to disable automatic programs
from starting with windows.

sometimes it is the automatic
programs/startups that are loaded
into memory and inhibit
windows performance.

it is not all that different from
booting into safe mode because
the automatic programs are
disabled for safe mode operations.

that is why if windows performs
better in safe mode but not as
well in normal mode,

then the problem could be attributed
to the automatic programs/startups.

------------------

if you want to initiate a clean boot
here are the steps that can be done
while in either normal mode or
safe mode.

click on startrunmsconfig

after you type and run msconfig
a window will pop up.

then under the startup tab you
will find those programs that
automatically start with windows.

you can uncheck them and they
will become disabled, then click
apply.

you may want to jot down which
ones you disabled, just for future
reference.

afterwards go to the services tab
and "hide" all microsoft services.

then what remains can be disabled
as well.

click apply and reboot into normal
mode.

what should occur is that windows
will launch without those third
party programs and services.

if you find that windows works
better than before, then you successfully
disabled the problem.

the next thing you should do is
to figure out what exactly should
be started automatically with windows.

my suggestion is to only have one
anti virus program automatically
startup with windows.

let us know what you discover.

-------------

incidentally, go ahead a make
a system restore point for today
and before you make changes to
the msconfig.

that way you can easily revert back
windows to a former state, if you
choose to.
--
db·´¯`·...¸)))º
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- @Hotmail.com
- nntp Postologist
~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"MrT" wrote in message
...


db wrote:
sometimes there are programs
that need to be reinstalled or
updated when the o.s. is updated.

not all programs are engineered
that way but yours could be.

but it seems that the makers of
crystal reports or the program
that has it as an add-in/module,
should have a solution,

since it is likely that they incurred
the same problem like yours.

incidentally, try a clean booting
normal mode and see if it helps
any with the performance of
windows and your database.


What is clean booting normal mode??? Isn't that the normal boot???

Speed problem solved by setting affinity on ibserver using imagecfg.exe.
Problem with the dual core. Hopefully it will solve problem on deployed
machine with HT.

Thanks.

Best regards


db wrote:
a clean boot is a method
to disable automatic programs
from starting with windows.

sometimes it is the automatic
programs/startups that are loaded
into memory and inhibit
windows performance.

it is not all that different from
booting into safe mode because
the automatic programs are
disabled for safe mode operations.

that is why if windows performs
better in safe mode but not as
well in normal mode,

then the problem could be attributed
to the automatic programs/startups.

------------------

if you want to initiate a clean boot
here are the steps that can be done
while in either normal mode or
safe mode.

click on startrunmsconfig

after you type and run msconfig
a window will pop up.

then under the startup tab you
will find those programs that
automatically start with windows.

you can uncheck them and they
will become disabled, then click
apply.

you may want to jot down which
ones you disabled, just for future
reference.

afterwards go to the services tab
and "hide" all microsoft services.

then what remains can be disabled
as well.

click apply and reboot into normal
mode.

what should occur is that windows
will launch without those third
party programs and services.

if you find that windows works
better than before, then you successfully
disabled the problem.

the next thing you should do is
to figure out what exactly should
be started automatically with windows.

my suggestion is to only have one
anti virus program automatically
startup with windows.

let us know what you discover.

-------------

incidentally, go ahead a make
a system restore point for today
and before you make changes to
the msconfig.

that way you can easily revert back
windows to a former state, if you
choose to.