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  #16  
Old November 15th 09, 05:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Inter Hagel
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Default Dual monitors using card and internal

I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In
other words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a
second plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a
video card having two connections?

What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a
19" in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want
to measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made.
4:3 is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed
by the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of
12.7" with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have
an approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is
physically close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You
need a 21" (1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17"
widescreen which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well
with 19" (both in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel
thickness that is important is the one that points toward the main
monitor. For a portrait model it could be either the top (usually
smaller) or the bottom. In landscape it will be the sides which are
almost always the same. Hope that helps.

15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 1222” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.330” 16:10 25.4 16


Well that turned out to be a total mess. Lesson learned - never trust
tab stops! Perhaps if I had used spaces this wouldn't have happened.
Here's a test using spaces to get the same look as tabs.
15” 4:3 12 9


That seemed to work. Now here's the list again.
15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 12
22” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22.1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.3
28” 16:10 15.2
30” 16:10 25.4 16
I had to correct some spacing errors. Here it is again with a mono-spaced
font (DejaVu Sans Mono which isn't so ugly.)
SIZE AS WIDTH HEIGHT
15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 12
22” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22.1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.3
28” 16:10 15.2
30” 16:10 25.4 16
I'm still getting spacing errors. Anybody know why? Shouldn't a
monospaced font copy perfectly? Or it because the font that is displaying
here is different than the font I'm copying from?


Well it looked like it posted correctly after I corrected the spacing
errors. Still it sure would be nice to know how to compose it properly in a
text document so it copies over to a usenet post perfectly. Any suggestions
will be most appreciated.

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  #17  
Old November 15th 09, 05:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Inter Hagel
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Posts: 30
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In
other words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a
second plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a
video card having two connections?

What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a
19" in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want
to measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made.
4:3 is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed
by the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of
12.7" with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have
an approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is
physically close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You
need a 21" (1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17"
widescreen which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well
with 19" (both in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel
thickness that is important is the one that points toward the main
monitor. For a portrait model it could be either the top (usually
smaller) or the bottom. In landscape it will be the sides which are
almost always the same. Hope that helps.

15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 1222” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.330” 16:10 25.4 16


Well that turned out to be a total mess. Lesson learned - never trust
tab stops! Perhaps if I had used spaces this wouldn't have happened.
Here's a test using spaces to get the same look as tabs.
15” 4:3 12 9


That seemed to work. Now here's the list again.
15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 12
22” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22.1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.3
28” 16:10 15.2
30” 16:10 25.4 16
I had to correct some spacing errors. Here it is again with a mono-spaced
font (DejaVu Sans Mono which isn't so ugly.)
SIZE AS WIDTH HEIGHT
15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 12
22” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22.1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.3
28” 16:10 15.2
30” 16:10 25.4 16
I'm still getting spacing errors. Anybody know why? Shouldn't a
monospaced font copy perfectly? Or it because the font that is displaying
here is different than the font I'm copying from?


Well it looked like it posted correctly after I corrected the spacing
errors. Still it sure would be nice to know how to compose it properly in a
text document so it copies over to a usenet post perfectly. Any suggestions
will be most appreciated.

  #18  
Old November 15th 09, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Patrick Keenan
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Default Dual monitors using card and internal

"BrianB" wrote in message
...
I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is when
I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In other words,
can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a second plugged into
the internal connection? Or do I need to get a video card having two
connections?

Brian


Get a card with two video outputs. These start at around $50, and go way,
way up. Adding video cards will often disable the internal adapters.

You do need to be sure that you get the correct type of video card, meaning
PCI, AGP, or PCI Express.

HTH
-pk


  #19  
Old November 15th 09, 11:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Patrick Keenan
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Posts: 4,415
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

"BrianB" wrote in message
...
I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is when
I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In other words,
can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a second plugged into
the internal connection? Or do I need to get a video card having two
connections?

Brian


Get a card with two video outputs. These start at around $50, and go way,
way up. Adding video cards will often disable the internal adapters.

You do need to be sure that you get the correct type of video card, meaning
PCI, AGP, or PCI Express.

HTH
-pk


  #20  
Old November 16th 09, 04:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
news.microsoft.com[_19_]
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Posts: 28
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

Best bet, buy a dual-head video card expecting to completely disable the
onboard video. Then it's just the one video card driver (and it handles the
two monitors) over two separate drivers fighting about things. Trust me,
been there and it can be done but not willingly again.

"Inter Hagel" wrote in message
...
I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In other
words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a second
plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a video card
having two connections?


What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a 19"
in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want to
measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made. 4:3
is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed by
the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of 12.7"
with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have an
approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is physically
close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You need a 21"
(1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17" widescreen
which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well with 19" (both
in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel thickness that is
important is the one that points toward the main monitor. For a portrait
model it could be either the top (usually smaller) or the bottom. In
landscape it will be the sides which are almost always the same. Hope
that helps.

15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 1222” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.330” 16:10 25.4 16





  #21  
Old November 16th 09, 04:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
news.microsoft.com[_19_]
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Posts: 28
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

Best bet, buy a dual-head video card expecting to completely disable the
onboard video. Then it's just the one video card driver (and it handles the
two monitors) over two separate drivers fighting about things. Trust me,
been there and it can be done but not willingly again.

"Inter Hagel" wrote in message
...
I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In other
words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a second
plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a video card
having two connections?


What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a 19"
in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want to
measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made. 4:3
is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed by
the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of 12.7"
with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have an
approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is physically
close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You need a 21"
(1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17" widescreen
which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well with 19" (both
in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel thickness that is
important is the one that points toward the main monitor. For a portrait
model it could be either the top (usually smaller) or the bottom. In
landscape it will be the sides which are almost always the same. Hope
that helps.

15” 4:3 12 9
17” 4:3 13.3 10.6
19” 4:3 15 1222” 16:10 18.7 11.7
24” 16:10 20.4 12.7
26” 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27” 16:10 22.9 14.330” 16:10 25.4 16





  #22  
Old November 16th 09, 07:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
David B.[_2_]
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Posts: 1,244
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

Good job, it's always good to repeat the same thing that was posted already
just in case the OP missed the first 5 replies that said the same thing.

--


--
"news.microsoft.com" pjp_is_located_@_hotmail_dot_com wrote in message
...
Best bet, buy a dual-head video card expecting to completely disable the
onboard video. Then it's just the one video card driver (and it handles
the two monitors) over two separate drivers fighting about things. Trust
me, been there and it can be done but not willingly again.

"Inter Hagel" wrote in message
...
I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In
other words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a
second plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a video
card having two connections?


What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a
19" in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want
to measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made.
4:3 is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed
by the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of 12.7"
with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have an
approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is physically
close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You need a 21"
(1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17" widescreen
which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well with 19" (both
in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel thickness that is
important is the one that points toward the main monitor. For a portrait
model it could be either the top (usually smaller) or the bottom. In
landscape it will be the sides which are almost always the same. Hope
that helps.

15" 4:3 12 9
17" 4:3 13.3 10.6
19" 4:3 15 1222" 16:10 18.7 11.7
24" 16:10 20.4 12.7
26" 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27" 16:10 22.9 14.330" 16:10 25.4 16






  #23  
Old November 16th 09, 07:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
David B.[_2_]
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Posts: 1,244
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

Good job, it's always good to repeat the same thing that was posted already
just in case the OP missed the first 5 replies that said the same thing.

--


--
"news.microsoft.com" pjp_is_located_@_hotmail_dot_com wrote in message
...
Best bet, buy a dual-head video card expecting to completely disable the
onboard video. Then it's just the one video card driver (and it handles
the two monitors) over two separate drivers fighting about things. Trust
me, been there and it can be done but not willingly again.

"Inter Hagel" wrote in message
...
I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In
other words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a
second plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a video
card having two connections?


What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a
19" in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want
to measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made.
4:3 is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed
by the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of 12.7"
with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have an
approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is physically
close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You need a 21"
(1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17" widescreen
which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well with 19" (both
in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel thickness that is
important is the one that points toward the main monitor. For a portrait
model it could be either the top (usually smaller) or the bottom. In
landscape it will be the sides which are almost always the same. Hope
that helps.

15" 4:3 12 9
17" 4:3 13.3 10.6
19" 4:3 15 1222" 16:10 18.7 11.7
24" 16:10 20.4 12.7
26" 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27" 16:10 22.9 14.330" 16:10 25.4 16






  #24  
Old November 18th 09, 12:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Inter Hagel
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Posts: 30
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

I appreciate the positive feedback David. Many heartfelt thanks.

"David B." wrote in message
...
Good job, it's always good to repeat the same thing that was posted
already just in case the OP missed the first 5 replies that said the same
thing.


Best bet, buy a dual-head video card expecting to completely disable the
onboard video. Then it's just the one video card driver (and it handles
the two monitors) over two separate drivers fighting about things. Trust
me, been there and it can be done but not willingly again.

I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In
other words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a
second plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a
video card having two connections?

What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a
19" in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want
to measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made.
4:3 is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed
by the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of
12.7" with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have
an approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is
physically close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You
need a 21" (1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17"
widescreen which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well
with 19" (both in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel
thickness that is important is the one that points toward the main
monitor. For a portrait model it could be either the top (usually
smaller) or the bottom. In landscape it will be the sides which are
almost always the same. Hope that helps.

15" 4:3 12 9
17" 4:3 13.3 10.6
19" 4:3 15 1222" 16:10 18.7 11.7
24" 16:10 20.4 12.7
26" 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27" 16:10 22.9 14.330" 16:10 25.4 16






  #25  
Old November 18th 09, 12:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware
Inter Hagel
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 30
Default Dual monitors using card and internal

I appreciate the positive feedback David. Many heartfelt thanks.

"David B." wrote in message
...
Good job, it's always good to repeat the same thing that was posted
already just in case the OP missed the first 5 replies that said the same
thing.


Best bet, buy a dual-head video card expecting to completely disable the
onboard video. Then it's just the one video card driver (and it handles
the two monitors) over two separate drivers fighting about things. Trust
me, been there and it can be done but not willingly again.

I have a desktop with one video connection on the MB. I want to add a
second monitor so I know that I must add a video card. My question is
when I plug in the card will that deactivate the internal video? In
other words, can I have one monitor plugged into a video card and a
second plugged into the internal connection? Or do I need to get a
video card having two connections?

What's important here is if the resolution or quality needed is the same
in both monitors. For many of us, we need a good, widescreen monitor for
some programs and entertainment and another one or two for monitoring
stuff. So in that case having an onboard card would be great. Remember
to keep your height the same on all the monitors. This makes a big
difference! If your main monitor is a 24" (1920 x 1280) you can use a
19" in landscape mode or a 17" in portrait mode. This is where you want
to measure the actual screen size of the monitor. Here's a list I made.
4:3 is the aspect ratio of course, the next number is the width followed
by the height. So you can see when you pair a 24" with a height of
12.7" with a 17" with a width of 13.3 and the same resolution you have
an approximate match. If you use a 30" a 19" in portrait mode is
physically close but the resolution is different so that's no good. You
need a 21" (1600 x 1200) in portrait mode to match. Or perhaps a 17"
widescreen which I don't have measurements for. 22" LCD's match well
with 19" (both in landscape) or 15" in portrait. Remember the bezel
thickness that is important is the one that points toward the main
monitor. For a portrait model it could be either the top (usually
smaller) or the bottom. In landscape it will be the sides which are
almost always the same. Hope that helps.

15" 4:3 12 9
17" 4:3 13.3 10.6
19" 4:3 15 1222" 16:10 18.7 11.7
24" 16:10 20.4 12.7
26" 16:10 22 .1 13.8
27" 16:10 22.9 14.330" 16:10 25.4 16






 




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