Win 2004 Taskbar Defender Icon

Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.19041.450. No defender icon and can not find it listed
as taskbar option. The option to turn it on does not show up.

Any help or is it gone?

Bill

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.19041.450. No defender icon and can not find it
listed as taskbar option. The option to turn it on does not show up.

Did you install a non-Microsoft security program, like an anti-virus?

Did you expand the systray to see the hidden tray icons?

The systray icon for Windows Defender is not called "Windows Defender"
in the list of which icons to show or hide. It is called "Windows
Security notification icon".

VanguardLH wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.19041.450. No defender icon and can not find it
listed as taskbar option. The option to turn it on does not show up.

Did you install a non-Microsoft security program, like an anti-virus?

Did you expand the systray to see the hidden tray icons?

The systray icon for Windows Defender is not called "Windows Defender"
in the list of which icons to show or hide. It is called "Windows
Security notification icon".

In Task Manager, I see

SecurityHealthHost.exe
C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealthHost.exe {E041C90B-68BA-42C9-991E-477B73A75C90} -Embedding
SecurityHealthService.exe
C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealthService.exe (used Procexp maybe)
SecurityHealthSystray.exe
"C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealthSystray.exe "

where of course, the EXE doesn't mean it is a win32 executable necessarily.

No idea where the tray icon hides. I tried some Agent Ransack searches
but still haven't seen anything interesting. Defender is out in the open,
but likely has nothing to do with that icon.

I think I'd check in Services.msc and see if the SecurityHealthService
is running. Maybe it has something to do with the tray one getting "wobbly".

Paul

Paul wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:

Windows 10 Pro, 10.0.19041.450. No defender icon and can not find
it listed as taskbar option. The option to turn it on does not
show up.

Did you install a non-Microsoft security program, like an anti-virus?

Did you expand the systray to see the hidden tray icons?

The systray icon for Windows Defender is not called "Windows
Defender" in the list of which icons to show or hide. It is called
"Windows Security notification icon".

In Task Manager, I see

SecurityHealthHost.exe
C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealthHost.exe
{E041C90B-68BA-42C9-991E-477B73A75C90} -Embedding
SecurityHealthService.exe
C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealthService.exe (used Procexp
maybe) SecurityHealthSystray.exe
"C:\Windows\System32\SecurityHealthSystray.exe "
where of course, the EXE doesn't mean it is a win32 executable
necessarily.
No idea where the tray icon hides. I tried some Agent Ransack searches
but still haven't seen anything interesting. Defender is out in the
open, but likely has nothing to do with that icon.

I think I'd check in Services.msc and see if the SecurityHealthService
is running. Maybe it has something to do with the tray one getting
"wobbly".
Paul

I started SecurityHeathSystray.exe and the icon showed up and it works when
I click on it and shows I have good health. Also without realizing what it
was I disabled it in WinPatrol as a startup. Hopefully what I am learning
about how windows operates will not cause me problems in the future. Thanks
for your help which let me solve my error.

Bill

Bill Bradshaw wrote:

I started SecurityHeathSystray.exe and the icon showed up and it works
when I click on it and shows I have good health. Also without
realizing what it was I disabled it in WinPatrol as a startup.
Hopefully what I am learning about how windows operates will not
cause me problems in the future. Thanks for your help which let me
solve my error.

Dump WinPatrol. I used the free version for many years, but after BillP
sold it the buyer (Ruiware) abandoned it. First they tried to make it
payware, but that failed, so they discarded it, and they disappeared.
They still have a Facebook page, but not updated since 2014 by Ruiware
(https://www.facebook.com/pages/categ...643850176906/).
There are newer posts, but by users wondering where the hell
winpatrol.com and Ruiware disappeared to.

The free version was okay, but the fastest poll time you could configure
was 1 minute. That meant that it wouldn't poll and report a change
until 1 minute after it happened. That was way too slow for some
detections, like a filetype change. If a program made a change and then
rebooted, that happened before WinPatrol would report the change.
Sometimes WinPatrol would fail to issue any report of changes. I'd
reboot Windows, and then get numerous reports from WinPatrol about
changes that were made days ago (or from whenever was the prior start of
Windows). I never bothered to buy the payware version which had a
real-time monitor instead of using a polling interval.

When BillP owned WinPatrol, I could report locations in the registry
that he had missed. In a few days, there was an update to WinPatrol.
He never did cover all startup locations that, for example,
SysInternals' AutoRuns would show the user (but AutoRuns doesn't have a
real-time monitor to detect changes as they happen to pend them until
okayed by the user). Forget ever trying to communicate with Ruiware
("ray-ware"), especially since they abandoned WinPatrol. To me, Ruiware
was Ruinware.

The winpatrol.com web site has been dead for quite awhile.
www.archive.og says the last update was back on May 13, 2016. That's
over 4 years ago. Either then or soon afterward that web site
disappeared. Ruiware's site (www.ruiware.com) announced the acquisition
(https://web.archive.org/web/20140725....ruiware.com/).
Since all they sold was WinPatrol, they dropped their ruiware.com site
by having it redirect to the winpatrol.com site (but that died in 2016).
The Ruiware site didn't exist until they bought WinPatrol around Aug 13,
2014. 2 years later Ruiware disappeared, and so did WinPatrol. You
can't go to winpatrol.com to get it. That site is long gone.

Get rid of the antiquated and long abandoned WinPatrol. It is far too
out of date to use with Windows 10. It wasn't even that complete on the
startup locations it monitored even when it was supported. Be sure to
reenable any startup programs that WinPatrol disabled BEFORE you
uninstall WinPatrol. Every tweaker, including the one in Windows, that
disables startup programs use their own archive key in the registry to
move the startup programs, so when you decide to re-enable them then the
tweaker moves them from their archive key back to where they were before
in the registry.

I liked their freeware version back when I was using Windows 7, and XP
before that. The polling interval meant it reported late any changes,
but, at least, I know about them. When I reported the problem about
queuing up multiple change reports that didn't show until a restart of
Windows, it never got fixed. BillP was selling it off at the time.
After Ruiware got WinPatrol, I waited awhile to see if they would fix
the existing issues, they didn't, report those issues to Ruiware, but
never got a response. They weren't responding to any of their users.
While waiting for the important fixes to happen before deciding to buy
the Plus payware version, Ruiware disappeared. Well, BillP got some
retirement money to reward him for all his hard work. Certainly was
noticeable he wasn't fixing his program for awhile, because he was
looking to sell it off. Don't remember if he or Ruiware said how much
was paid for the WinPatrol acquisition.

https://techdows.com/2014/07/winpatr...r-ruiware.html

Since BillP claimed he would help continue improving on WinPatrol, but
nothing happened after Ruiware got it, I had assumed his "family
illness" was his own, and was lethal. Hmm, maybe not. His site is
still up:

http://www.billp.com/
(last updated May 8, 2020)

Although there is no link to it, I found his "About" page at:

http://www.billp.com/contact.html

I suppose with Ruiware going dead, BillP has no means of getting
involved with WinPatrol, anymore. Plus, he retired which likely means
he's done with his prior works.