System Restore Keeping Only One Restore Point

Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of Zone
Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of it
is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it to
detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

I've searched the entire machine and the only place where .RDB files occur
is in "system volume information". There are currently a total of 183 of
them. 150 are in one single SR point, and the balance are in the other 10
SR points. Strangely, two of the SR points have zero .RDB files.
Apparently there are no .RDB files in ZoneAlarm.

I do not have Apache on my system.


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Do you have any other rdb files elsewhere other in the System Volume
Information folder or a Zone Alarm. Zone Alarm is not the only programme
that generates rdb files.

Do you have Apache on your system?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
No, I didn't.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
That might be it, then. Tuesday's the day for updates. :-) Did you
update Windows or Office yesterday (manually or automatically)?


"Danno" wrote in message
news:tqf%j.173850$Cj7.34779@pd7urf2no...
Great question Daave! Have you ever considered a career as a
detective? It was the last restore point (created last night), and
it's the only one of the 11 that was an automatically created
point. The other ten were either created my me manually (for test
purposes), or created when I was updating drivers, etc.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

There are now 11 restore points instead of only one. Ten of
those 11 SR points are a normal size of approx. 65 Mb. But once
again, there is one restore point that is abnormally large at 462
Mb. And that one occurred with ZoneAlarm turned OFF, as did the
other ten. And once again, that huge file is filled with 100 .RDB
files that are all the same size of 2.87 Mb each.

What is the date of that point? What activity occurred at that
time? Was it after any updates were installed (Windows or
Microsoft)?

Yeah, that wouldn't hurt to completely uninstall it and see if any more .RDB
files ever appear again. Besides, I find ZA to be a big bloated pain in the
ass. I'll do that and let ya know the result.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System Restore
seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of it is
still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it to detemine
once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

Danno wrote:
I've searched the entire machine and the only place where .RDB files occur
is in "system volume information".

I would expect that to be the case (since they are for the System Restore
function)

There are currently a total of 183 of
them. 150 are in one single SR point, and the balance are in the other 10
SR points. Strangely, two of the SR points have zero .RDB files.
Apparently there are no .RDB files in ZoneAlarm.

But that does NOT mean that ZoneAlarm wasn't involved in all of this.

I do not have Apache on my system.


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Do you have any other rdb files elsewhere other in the System Volume
Information folder or a Zone Alarm. Zone Alarm is not the only programme
that generates rdb files.

Do you have Apache on your system?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
No, I didn't.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
That might be it, then. Tuesday's the day for updates. :-) Did you
update Windows or Office yesterday (manually or automatically)?


"Danno" wrote in message
news:tqf%j.173850$Cj7.34779@pd7urf2no...
Great question Daave! Have you ever considered a career as a
detective? It was the last restore point (created last night), and
it's the only one of the 11 that was an automatically created
point. The other ten were either created my me manually (for test
purposes), or created when I was updating drivers, etc.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

There are now 11 restore points instead of only one. Ten of
those 11 SR points are a normal size of approx. 65 Mb. But once
again, there is one restore point that is abnormally large at 462
Mb. And that one occurred with ZoneAlarm turned OFF, as did the
other ten. And once again, that huge file is filled with 100 .RDB
files that are all the same size of 2.87 Mb each.

What is the date of that point? What activity occurred at that
time? Was it after any updates were installed (Windows or
Microsoft)?

Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there is an
annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but every
minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal amount of CPU
resources, but none the less it's active... it's not really sleeping.
What's even more annoying is that there is another process called vsmon.exe
that also pops in and out of action on a regular basis... along with
ScanningProcess. And lo and behold.... I discovered that both of these
processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's fire wall.

I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these annoyances
are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm turned off. When I
switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit. If so,
then the original question I posted has been answered. Honestly, I wouldn't
have possibly have figured this without your guidance. Detectives you
should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of days.
It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of Zone Alarm
still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of it
is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it to
detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

Bill

I have searched to see if there are any reports of other software
producing multiple RDB files. I only found ones relating to Zone Alarm.
You can get very large restore points after major system changes but
Danno has not said anything about carrying out this type of activity
immediately before this latest restore point.


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

was created.
Bill in Co. wrote:
Danno wrote:
I've searched the entire machine and the only place where .RDB files
occur is in "system volume information".

I would expect that to be the case (since they are for the System
Restore function)

There are currently a total of 183 of
them. 150 are in one single SR point, and the balance are in the
other 10 SR points. Strangely, two of the SR points have zero .RDB
files. Apparently there are no .RDB files in ZoneAlarm.

But that does NOT mean that ZoneAlarm wasn't involved in all of this.

I do not have Apache on my system.


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Do you have any other rdb files elsewhere other in the System Volume
Information folder or a Zone Alarm. Zone Alarm is not the only
programme that generates rdb files.

Do you have Apache on your system?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
No, I didn't.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
That might be it, then. Tuesday's the day for updates. :-) Did you
update Windows or Office yesterday (manually or automatically)?


"Danno" wrote in message
news:tqf%j.173850$Cj7.34779@pd7urf2no...
Great question Daave! Have you ever considered a career as a
detective? It was the last restore point (created last night),
and it's the only one of the 11 that was an automatically created
point. The other ten were either created my me manually (for test
purposes), or created when I was updating drivers, etc.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off,
System Restore seems to be working properly, except for one
issue. There are now 11 restore points instead of only one.
Ten of
those 11 SR points are a normal size of approx. 65 Mb. But
once again, there is one restore point that is abnormally
large at 462 Mb. And that one occurred with ZoneAlarm turned
OFF, as did the other ten. And once again, that huge file is
filled with 100 .RDB files that are all the same size of 2.87
Mb each.

What is the date of that point? What activity occurred at that
time? Was it after any updates were installed (Windows or
Microsoft)?

Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold.... I
discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm turned
off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit. If
so, then the original question I posted has been answered. Honestly, I
wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of Zone
Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of it
is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it to
detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

Gerry...thanks for reminding me to check that. In the past, any time I
turned Zone Alarm off, ZA would automatically switch the built-in firewall
back on. But by un-installing ZA, that feature went with it, so..... I
forgot to turn it back on until you just reminded me. Thanks again!


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold.... I
discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm turned
off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit. If so,
then the original question I posted has been answered. Honestly, I
wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of Zone
Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of it
is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it to
detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

No, I have done nothing major such as updating Windows Update in the past
week.



"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Bill

I have searched to see if there are any reports of other software
producing multiple RDB files. I only found ones relating to Zone Alarm.
You can get very large restore points after major system changes but Danno
has not said anything about carrying out this type of activity immediately
before this latest restore point.


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

was created.
Bill in Co. wrote:
Danno wrote:
I've searched the entire machine and the only place where .RDB files
occur is in "system volume information".

I would expect that to be the case (since they are for the System
Restore function)

There are currently a total of 183 of
them. 150 are in one single SR point, and the balance are in the
other 10 SR points. Strangely, two of the SR points have zero .RDB
files. Apparently there are no .RDB files in ZoneAlarm.

But that does NOT mean that ZoneAlarm wasn't involved in all of this.

I do not have Apache on my system.


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

Do you have any other rdb files elsewhere other in the System Volume
Information folder or a Zone Alarm. Zone Alarm is not the only
programme that generates rdb files.

Do you have Apache on your system?


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
No, I didn't.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
That might be it, then. Tuesday's the day for updates. :-) Did you
update Windows or Office yesterday (manually or automatically)?


"Danno" wrote in message
news:tqf%j.173850$Cj7.34779@pd7urf2no...
Great question Daave! Have you ever considered a career as a
detective? It was the last restore point (created last night),
and it's the only one of the 11 that was an automatically created
point. The other ten were either created my me manually (for test
purposes), or created when I was updating drivers, etc.


"Daave" wrote in message
...
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off,
System Restore seems to be working properly, except for one
issue. There are now 11 restore points instead of only one. Ten of
those 11 SR points are a normal size of approx. 65 Mb. But
once again, there is one restore point that is abnormally
large at 462 Mb. And that one occurred with ZoneAlarm turned
OFF, as did the other ten. And once again, that huge file is
filled with 100 .RDB files that are all the same size of 2.87
Mb each.

What is the date of that point? What activity occurred at that
time? Was it after any updates were installed (Windows or
Microsoft)?

Danno

All part of the service G.

Although a long thread it was interesting to see how Zone Alarm actually
causes System Restore problems. I have read Bert Kinney references
previously but not got involved with resolving the issue before. I am
surprised we do not see more problems of this sort. I suppose many users
rely on Acronis True Image for backups. In this situation they can turn
off System Restore and use Zone Alarm without the problems you have
experienced.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Gerry...thanks for reminding me to check that. In the past, any time
I turned Zone Alarm off, ZA would automatically switch the built-in
firewall back on. But by un-installing ZA, that feature went with
it, so..... I forgot to turn it back on until you just reminded me.
Thanks again!

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold....
I discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm
turned off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit.
If so, then the original question I posted has been answered.
Honestly, I wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of
Zone Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of
it is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it
to detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

Thanks again for your help Gerry in jolly ole England. Have a pint on me
[''']D


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

All part of the service G.

Although a long thread it was interesting to see how Zone Alarm actually
causes System Restore problems. I have read Bert Kinney references
previously but not got involved with resolving the issue before. I am
surprised we do not see more problems of this sort. I suppose many users
rely on Acronis True Image for backups. In this situation they can turn
off System Restore and use Zone Alarm without the problems you have
experienced.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Gerry...thanks for reminding me to check that. In the past, any time
I turned Zone Alarm off, ZA would automatically switch the built-in
firewall back on. But by un-installing ZA, that feature went with
it, so..... I forgot to turn it back on until you just reminded me.
Thanks again!

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold....
I discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm
turned off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit.
If so, then the original question I posted has been answered.
Honestly, I wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of
Zone Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of
it is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it
to detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

Gerry, I have a question if you don't mind. What would happen if I had the
space allocated for System Restore set at.... say 6%. System Restore
eventually sets enough points that the full 6% is taken up. Then I opt to
adjust the allocated space to 4%. I assume SR would delete enough of the
restore points to meet the new criteria.... starting with the earliest?


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

All part of the service G.

Although a long thread it was interesting to see how Zone Alarm actually
causes System Restore problems. I have read Bert Kinney references
previously but not got involved with resolving the issue before. I am
surprised we do not see more problems of this sort. I suppose many users
rely on Acronis True Image for backups. In this situation they can turn
off System Restore and use Zone Alarm without the problems you have
experienced.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Gerry...thanks for reminding me to check that. In the past, any time
I turned Zone Alarm off, ZA would automatically switch the built-in
firewall back on. But by un-installing ZA, that feature went with
it, so..... I forgot to turn it back on until you just reminded me.
Thanks again!

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold....
I discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm
turned off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit.
If so, then the original question I posted has been answered.
Honestly, I wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of
Zone Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of
it is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it
to detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

I'm not Gerry, but I can answer that one for ya. Yes, that is exactly what
happens - it drops the oldest restore points to meet the new criteria.

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I have a question if you don't mind. What would happen if I had
the
space allocated for System Restore set at.... say 6%. System Restore
eventually sets enough points that the full 6% is taken up. Then I opt to
adjust the allocated space to 4%. I assume SR would delete enough of the
restore points to meet the new criteria.... starting with the earliest?


"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

All part of the service G.

Although a long thread it was interesting to see how Zone Alarm actually
causes System Restore problems. I have read Bert Kinney references
previously but not got involved with resolving the issue before. I am
surprised we do not see more problems of this sort. I suppose many users
rely on Acronis True Image for backups. In this situation they can turn
off System Restore and use Zone Alarm without the problems you have
experienced.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Gerry...thanks for reminding me to check that. In the past, any time
I turned Zone Alarm off, ZA would automatically switch the built-in
firewall back on. But by un-installing ZA, that feature went with
it, so..... I forgot to turn it back on until you just reminded me.
Thanks again!

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold....
I discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm
turned off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit.
If so, then the original question I posted has been answered.
Honestly, I wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
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Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of
Zone Alarm still running.


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Regards.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of
it is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it
to detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

Tanks Bill!


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
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I'm not Gerry, but I can answer that one for ya. Yes, that is exactly
what happens - it drops the oldest restore points to meet the new
criteria.

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I have a question if you don't mind. What would happen if I had
the
space allocated for System Restore set at.... say 6%. System Restore
eventually sets enough points that the full 6% is taken up. Then I opt
to
adjust the allocated space to 4%. I assume SR would delete enough of the
restore points to meet the new criteria.... starting with the earliest?


"Gerry" wrote in message
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Danno

All part of the service G.

Although a long thread it was interesting to see how Zone Alarm actually
causes System Restore problems. I have read Bert Kinney references
previously but not got involved with resolving the issue before. I am
surprised we do not see more problems of this sort. I suppose many users
rely on Acronis True Image for backups. In this situation they can turn
off System Restore and use Zone Alarm without the problems you have
experienced.

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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Danno wrote:
Gerry...thanks for reminding me to check that. In the past, any time
I turned Zone Alarm off, ZA would automatically switch the built-in
firewall back on. But by un-installing ZA, that feature went with
it, so..... I forgot to turn it back on until you just reminded me.
Thanks again!

"Gerry" wrote in message
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Danno

With Zone Alarm swtched off (?) is the Windows Firewall working?

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Danno wrote:
Gerry, I think parts of Zone Alarm are still running, because there
is an annoying process running in the background continually called
"ScanningProcess.exe". For the most part it is pretty quiet, but
every minute or more it pops in to action and takes up a minimal
amount of CPU resources, but none the less it's active... it's not
really sleeping. What's even more annoying is that there is another
process called vsmon.exe that also pops in and out of action on a
regular basis... along with ScanningProcess. And lo and behold....
I discovered that both of these processes are a part of ZoneAlarm's
fire wall.
I'm not very computer savvy, but I'd sure like to know why these
annoyances are running in the background when I have ZoneAlarm
turned off. When I switch it off, I expect it to be OFF.

I'm pretty certain you guys have helped me zero in on the culprit.
If so, then the original question I posted has been answered.
Honestly, I wouldn't have possibly have figured this without your
guidance. Detectives you should be. lol

I'll uninstall Zone Alarm and give you the results in a couple of
days. It's going to be good news, I'm quite certain.

Thanks again for your determination.

Dan

"Gerry" wrote in message
...
Daave

That thought had crossed my mind. Autoruns might reveal part of
Zone Alarm still running.


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daave wrote:
"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System
Restore seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of
it is still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it
to detemine once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)

On Wed, 28 May 2008 19:28:08 GMT, "Danno" wrote:

Yeah, that wouldn't hurt to completely uninstall it and see if any more .RDB
files ever appear again. Besides, I find ZA to be a big bloated pain in the
ass. I'll do that and let ya know the result.


"Daave" wrote in message
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"Danno" wrote in message
news:sYd%j.301973$pM4.210692@pd7urf1no...
In the past few days, ever since ZoneAlarm was turned off, System Restore
seems to be working properly, except for one issue.

"Turning off" ZA may not be enough (there's a chance that part of it is
still running without your knowledge). I would uninstall it to detemine
once and for all if it's responsible.

I'm not sure you need ZA anyway. :-)



Just butting in here Danno , G , I haven`t used ZA in years ; the
one I prefer is Comodo v.2 ( can`t get used to v.3 ) and that is
completely free .