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TweakUI Auto logon
On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on
automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this. -- Never, ever forget: we did this. This is what we can do. http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2...st-image-ever/ |
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Why not simply set win to auto logon
"Terry Pinnell" wrote in message ... On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:55:49 -0400, Twayne wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this. Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon, tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to check...!). IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on windows dialogs, for example. TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and isn't the right answer to these questions. Yes, agreed, but a). I've never managed to get it to work and b). that mean's I'm doing something wrong. Please educate us so that we can do this properly. Thanks. -- Peter. You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion? It's not rocket science, you know. |
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Terry Pinnell wrote in
: "Twayne" wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this. Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon, tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to check...!). IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps TweakUI is a MS product. to do things that are so easily done in the normal windows. Almost NOTHING important is "easily done" in "normal" Windows. That's why you need dozens of 3rd party apps to be able to use a Windows machine at all, starting with a real file manager and text editor. (Although as I said, Tweak UI happens to be {a fairly useful} Microsoft product which somehow slipped by.) Can you print a directory's contents from a "normal" Windows machine? Right. And you never will, either. It defeats learnign one's system and leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on windows dialogs, for example. TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really Debatable, especially depending on who the user is. SNIP -- We look at each other; see that we do not know each other, stare, and go off. Such looks are lashes. I feel the whole cruelty and indifference of the world in them. - Virginia Woolf |
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"Twayne" wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this. Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon, tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to check...!). IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on windows dialogs, for example. TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and isn't the right answer to these questions. That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method. But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login problem." There's more info at http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 07:29:43 +0100, Terry Pinnell wrote:
"Twayne" wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 06:01:35 -0700, wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. Installing SP3 or some service packs can do this. Yes, I had the same problem. In TweakUI, go in to Logon-Autologon, tick the box, then Set Password, leave the spaces blank then OK twice. Well, it's worked for me (but having just opened TUI to check...!). IMO it's not right to recommend 3rd party apps to do things that are so easily done in the normal windows. It defeats learnign one's system and leaves the user not knowing it was a simple key click in their log on windows dialogs, for example. TUI does nothing the user cannot do themselves natively, really, and isn't the right answer to these questions. That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method. But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login problem." There's more info at http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php That seems to be for dotNet 1; I have v2 and no account for it (with hidden and system folders shown). 'Sticking' is the problem; I used TweakUI when I couldn't get autologon to work (I hate having to 'log in' - boot and go is how I like it, so much so that my preferred Linux distro is PCLOS as it will do this). TweakUI wouldn't stick either, but I'd ignored the password part as I didn't want one. After a couple boots which needed input I tried the blank p/w - OK bit and it's stuck for over a week now. -- Peter. You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion? It's not rocket science, you know. |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method. But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login problem." There's more info at http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php Start | Run type in control userpasswords2 enter -- A woman's dying wish was that her family could move from their old, ratty trailer and have a nice home. The Local Community, "Sure, we can do that. http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.as...899&zoneid=500 |
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Terry Pinnell wrote: That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method. But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login problem." There's more info at http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php Start | Run type in control userpasswords2 enter Thanks. But can you or anyone amplify on this topic please. It's something I've never properly grasped. The subject of XP passwords makes me dead nervous. First, this is what I see using that Run command: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/283...asswordpp2.jpg It says I need to enter a password. But that's not so. I didn't do so when the PC arrived (ready-built with XP Pro installed from MESH UK), nor do I do it now with auto-logon. So that appears to be a contradiction at the outset. And if I did need to do so, how would I know what the initial p/w was, given I wasn't the person who installed XP Pro on this PC? Some more background might help. The reason that I'm so apprehensive about changing *anything* concerned with passwords is that I dread getting myself effectively locked out of my own PC! My previous PC was also supplied by MESH. I recall an exasperating conversation with their support rep on the phone 5 years ago, on the first occasion I had to use the Recovery CD, and had been asked for a password. This guy insisted that "we don't allocate a password" and I didn't get much further sense from him. (I can't recall how exactly I eventually accessed the 'recovery' screens, but I know it was complex and followed days of research. Not something I want to have to repeat.) I'm also nervous in case my Scheduled Tasks are affected by messing with the password. Is the 'password' in these User Accounts dialog the same as the password needed to allow Scheduled Tasks to be configured and used? On this new PC, the only way I could get tasks to be recognised and work properly was to enter what I see often called a 'blank' password. There's worrying ambiguity in that description too: I'm not going to try it right now but I recall I effectively placed the cursor in the box(es) and hit Enter. Ideally I'd like to add a normal alphanumeric password to these tasks, just as somehow I managed to do on the old PC, but for now I'm settling for this 'null' version. -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
wrote: Terry Pinnell wrote: That's a separate issue, and a matter of personal preference. As it happens I didn't know there was a simple alternative to TweakUI to get fully automatic logon, by-passing the Logon window. Could you spell it out please? If indeed it is simpler and does the identical job then yes, I'd normally prefer the 'direct' method. But the issue I've raised is that the option doesn't 'stick'. From elsewhere I gather that the likely explanation concerns ASP.NET. The advice I received was "Go to your User Accounts in the Control Panel and delete the ASP.NET user account. That should solve your auto login problem." There's more info at http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php Start | Run type in control userpasswords2 enter Thanks. But can you or anyone amplify on this topic please. It's something I've never properly grasped. The subject of XP passwords makes me dead nervous. First, this is what I see using that Run command: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/283...asswordpp2.jpg It says I need to enter a password. But that's not so. I didn't do so when the PC arrived (ready-built with XP Pro installed from MESH UK), nor do I do it now with auto-logon. So that appears to be a contradiction at the outset. And if I did need to do so, how would I know what the initial p/w was, given I wasn't the person who installed XP Pro on this PC? Magic jellybean or that's what I've read in the 24hoursupport.helpdesk group. Some more background might help. The reason that I'm so apprehensive about changing *anything* concerned with passwords is that I dread getting myself effectively locked out of my own PC! My previous PC was also supplied by MESH. I recall an exasperating conversation with their support rep on the phone 5 years ago, on the first occasion I had to use the Recovery CD, and had been asked for a password. This guy insisted that "we don't allocate a password" and I didn't get much further sense from him. (I can't recall how exactly I eventually accessed the 'recovery' screens, but I know it was complex and followed days of research. Not something I want to have to repeat.) I'm also nervous in case my Scheduled Tasks are affected by messing with the password. Is the 'password' in these User Accounts dialog the same as the password needed to allow Scheduled Tasks to be configured and used? On this new PC, the only way I could get tasks to be recognised and work properly was to enter what I see often called a 'blank' password. There's worrying ambiguity in that description too: I'm not going to try it right now but I recall I effectively placed the cursor in the box(es) and hit Enter. Ideally I'd like to add a normal alphanumeric password to these tasks, just as somehow I managed to do on the old PC, but for now I'm settling for this 'null' version. You click on your account, you unselect "use password..." you will be asked for your password twice. You also don't have .NET installed, any application that uses it will not run - I don't know if that's a bad thing or not. -- cutting yard http://wtfurls.com/images/169.jpg |
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
On my XP Pro PC I use PowerToys TweakUI and I have enabled 'Log on automatically at system startup'. Occasionally when I reboot I still get the logon screen. And the TweakUI setting has become unchecked. Anyone have any idea why that might happen please? Never happened in 5/6 years with my last (XP Home) PC. If you are going to auto logon, which is horrible if you are concerned about security, then why not just drop the password on the users. Then use the "control userpasswords2" from the run command and uncheck the box specifying that users need to login with a password. Now you have no password and XP does not require it. You'll run right past that whole screen. I've also set my screen to not use the welcome screen. It works here!. |
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