Downgrading from Vista to XP pro

I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
pro?

Vince

XP may not have drivers for your hardware.
You will lose all the software installed at the factory.
You will void your warranty.

---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
pro?

Vince

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with
my XP pro?

- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume) licensed as an
OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you contacted the
manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they sell it with Windows XP
(many vendors are still selling computers with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at least checked their
web support and driver download pages to ensure they have drivers available
for Windows XP? (Motherboard chipset, video, sound, network, wireless,
bluetooth, etc...)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

JPC

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:24 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
wrote:


El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with
my XP pro?

- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume) licensed as an
OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you contacted the
manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they sell it with Windows XP
(many vendors are still selling computers with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at least checked their
web support and driver download pages to ensure they have drivers available
for Windows XP? (Motherboard chipset, video, sound, network, wireless,
bluetooth, etc...)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted this in
the incorrect place?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:46:52 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
wrote:

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted this in
the incorrect place?

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
this in the incorrect place?

John Callaway wrote:
If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?

If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of the entire
thing/component parts at least) then the "partition commander" thing is
unnecessary - as they can partition with the Windows XP boot CD.

They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to perform a
clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop - which would require no
special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any drivers the hardware might
require.

That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting - as I
still cannot connect what you are saying to the original question nor my
initial set of questions for the OP. Merely curious...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Your question "What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you use
xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.

JPC

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:41:59 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
wrote:

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
this in the incorrect place?

John Callaway wrote:
If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?

If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of the entire
thing/component parts at least) then the "partition commander" thing is
unnecessary - as they can partition with the Windows XP boot CD.

They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to perform a
clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop - which would require no
special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any drivers the hardware might
require.

That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting - as I
still cannot connect what you are saying to the original question nor my
initial set of questions for the OP. Merely curious...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
this in the incorrect place?

John Callaway wrote:
If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?

If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of
the entire thing/component parts at least) then the "partition
commander" thing is unnecessary - as they can partition with the
Windows XP boot CD.

They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to
perform a clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop -
which would require no special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any
drivers the hardware might require.

That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting -
as I still cannot connect what you are saying to the original
question nor my initial set of questions for the OP. Merely
curious...

John Callaway wrote:
Your question "What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my
XP pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you
use xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.

Possible issues (thus my questions and suggestions.):

- The hardware manufacturer may not support the components under a pre-vista
machine - so drivers may be difficult to find (if they exist.)

- The manufacturer may consider this (installing a different/unsupported OS)
to null-and-void of the warranty.

- The software that comes with the laptop may not come in an installable
medium other than a system restore feature (restoring the OS and
applications in one swoop.)

As for partitioning your disk for 'faster access' - not generally a factor.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

With all due respect, it sounds like you addressed your question
thoroughly.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:59:20 -0500, "Shenan Stanley"
wrote:

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
this in the incorrect place?

John Callaway wrote:
If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?

If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of
the entire thing/component parts at least) then the "partition
commander" thing is unnecessary - as they can partition with the
Windows XP boot CD.

They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to
perform a clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop -
which would require no special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any
drivers the hardware might require.

That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting -
as I still cannot connect what you are saying to the original
question nor my initial set of questions for the OP. Merely
curious...

John Callaway wrote:
Your question "What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my
XP pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you
use xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.

Possible issues (thus my questions and suggestions.):

- The hardware manufacturer may not support the components under a pre-vista
machine - so drivers may be difficult to find (if they exist.)

- The manufacturer may consider this (installing a different/unsupported OS)
to null-and-void of the warranty.

- The software that comes with the laptop may not come in an installable
medium other than a system restore feature (restoring the OS and
applications in one swoop.)

As for partitioning your disk for 'faster access' - not generally a factor.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP

I understand MS is allowing a legal downgrade to XP Pro from Vista, but I
would expect for a price (I do not know). Also, in buying a new machine, I
would get an assurance of warranty from the OEM, as well as assurance of
driver support for the XP "downgrade." How about downgrading to XP X64, but
make sure you can get an X64 printer driver for your current printer.

"El Cugino" wrote in message
...
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my XP
pro?

Vince

El Cugino wrote:
I want to buy a new notebook. They all come with Vista, which I
detest. I own a legal copy of XP pro. What problems may I expect
if I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install
with my XP pro?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
- Is the 'copy' of Windows XP Professional (32 bit I assume)
licensed as an OEM or retail version?

- Have you picked out a certain type of laptop and have you
contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to see if they
sell it with Windows XP (many vendors are still selling computers
with Windows XP at this time.)?

- Have you contacted the manufacturer of said laptop directly to
see if they support said laptop with Windows XP installed? Or at
least checked their web support and driver download pages to
ensure they have drivers available for Windows XP? (Motherboard
chipset, video, sound, network, wireless, bluetooth, etc...)

John Callaway wrote:
Partition commander, partition HDD with 20 Gig for XP, other
drive/drives for your data.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
John,

I am afraid I do not understand your posting - perhaps you posted
this in the incorrect place?

John Callaway wrote:
If you use partition commander you can partition your HDD and then
load your XP OS, then your drivers.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Okay - but what does that have to do with this discussion?

If the person has a Windows XP supported (by the manufacturer of
the entire thing/component parts at least) then the "partition
commander" thing is unnecessary - as they can partition with the
Windows XP boot CD.

They have no want for Windows Vista as they state they wish to
perform a clean install of Windows XP when they get a laptop -
which would require no special tools beyond a Windows XP CD and any
drivers the hardware might require.

That is why I asked if perhaps you responded to the wrong posting -
as I still cannot connect what you are saying to the original
question nor my initial set of questions for the OP. Merely
curious...

John Callaway wrote:
Your question "What problems may I expect if
I buy the notebook with Vista and try to do a clean install with my
XP pro? I believe can be answered, none, if you do a clean install
perhaps repartition your HDD for quicker disk access. Whether you
use xp partition or perhaps partition commander was an example.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Possible issues (thus my questions and suggestions.):

- The hardware manufacturer may not support the components under a
pre-vista machine - so drivers may be difficult to find (if they
exist.)

- The manufacturer may consider this (installing a
different/unsupported OS) to null-and-void of the warranty.

- The software that comes with the laptop may not come in an
installable medium other than a system restore feature (restoring
the OS and applications in one swoop.)

As for partitioning your disk for 'faster access' - not generally a
factor.

John Callaway wrote:
With all due respect, it sounds like you addressed your question
thoroughly.

The questions were not for me to address - but for the original poster to
address.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html