How to set "Verify On" at XP startup ?

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.

I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

I tried setting up a script at the startup/shutdown script, hoping
that when the machine is booted up, the "verify on" option would be
loaded. Apparently what I did failed miserably.

So I am here looking for help.

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Would be very appreciative of any of your suggestion and/or opinion.

Thanks !

Explorer does this automatically. If you want to use this when you copy
from the Command Prompt you can use the appropriate switch in your
command syntax.

John

Hari Hari Mau wrote:

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.

I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

I tried setting up a script at the startup/shutdown script, hoping
that when the machine is booted up, the "verify on" option would be
loaded. Apparently what I did failed miserably.

So I am here looking for help.

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Would be very appreciative of any of your suggestion and/or opinion.

Thanks !

"Hari Hari Mau" wrote in message
...

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.
I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

You may have apprehended thiings backwards.
1. This is a "parameter" of the COPY utility built into
operating systems, which may or may not be available
in any particular version of MS-DOS (as Win98) or its
avatars (e.g. XP: both have this function.)
2. Win98 may use AUTOEXEC.BAT at boot but does
not require it (as Win95 did.)
3. AUTOEXEC.BAT never requires any COPY functions
with or without /V

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Better repost in a WiinXP NG explaining which COPY
processes you want to run at boot.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"Hari Hari Mau" wrote in message
...
In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.

I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

I tried setting up a script at the startup/shutdown script, hoping
that when the machine is booted up, the "verify on" option would be
loaded. Apparently what I did failed miserably.

So I am here looking for help.

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Would be very appreciative of any of your suggestion and/or opinion.

Thanks !


First off, you've posted to a Win98 newsgroup...
you should have kept your question on an XP group.

However, the "verify" option on XP

is simply invoked with the /V switch


If you are looking for a more robust "copy" function
I suggest you use robocopy from the XP resource kit

John Holmes wrote:
Windows Explorer will always copy with verify ON

No it doesn't (at least not in Vista, I didn't bother to verify this
with XP).


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On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:17:53 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

"Hari Hari Mau" wrote in message
...

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.
I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

You may have apprehended thiings backwards.
1. This is a "parameter" of the COPY utility built into
operating systems, which may or may not be available
in any particular version of MS-DOS (as Win98) or its
avatars (e.g. XP: both have this function.)
2. Win98 may use AUTOEXEC.BAT at boot but does
not require it (as Win95 did.)
3. AUTOEXEC.BAT never requires any COPY functions
with or without /V

So if one sets Verify On within Autoexec, does that effect copies done
through Win98? Or are the DOS and Windows environments unrelated on
something like that.

Scott Seligman wrote:

John Holmes wrote:

Windows Explorer will always copy with verify ON


No it doesn't (at least not in Vista, I didn't bother to verify this
with XP).

If you didn't verify with XP then why are you bothering replying to an
XP group? Windows Explorer always copies with verify on and I would be
surprised if Vista did this any differently.

John

"John John (MVP)" wrote:
Scott Seligman wrote:

John Holmes wrote:

Windows Explorer will always copy with verify ON


No it doesn't (at least not in Vista, I didn't bother to verify this
with XP).

If you didn't verify with XP then why are you bothering replying to an
XP group? Windows Explorer always copies with verify on and I would be
surprised if Vista did this any differently.

No it doesn't. I just verified this with a stock XP installation.
Explorer didn't very the copy after it was completed, so you're wrong.

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we can imagine.
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Scott Seligman wrote:

"John John (MVP)" wrote:

Scott Seligman wrote:


John Holmes wrote:


Windows Explorer will always copy with verify ON


No it doesn't (at least not in Vista, I didn't bother to verify this
with XP).

If you didn't verify with XP then why are you bothering replying to an
XP group? Windows Explorer always copies with verify on and I would be
surprised if Vista did this any differently.


No it doesn't. I just verified this with a stock XP installation.
Explorer didn't very the copy after it was completed, so you're wrong.

How exactly did you verify if Explorer.exe verified its file copy?

John

"John John (MVP)" wrote:
Scott Seligman wrote:

"John John (MVP)" wrote:

Scott Seligman wrote:


John Holmes wrote:


Windows Explorer will always copy with verify ON


No it doesn't (at least not in Vista, I didn't bother to verify this
with XP).

If you didn't verify with XP then why are you bothering replying to an
XP group? Windows Explorer always copies with verify on and I would be
surprised if Vista did this any differently.


No it doesn't. I just verified this with a stock XP installation.
Explorer didn't very the copy after it was completed, so you're wrong.

How exactly did you verify if Explorer.exe verified its file copy?

I ran Process Monitor while the copy was going and looked to see if
Explorer tried to read the destination file or only wrote to it. (It
only wrote to it)

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men are almost always bad men.
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In message , Don Phillipson
writes:
"Hari Hari Mau" wrote in message
...

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.
I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

You may have apprehended thiings backwards.
1. This is a "parameter" of the COPY utility built into
operating systems, which may or may not be available
in any particular version of MS-DOS (as Win98) or its
avatars (e.g. XP: both have this function.)
2. Win98 may use AUTOEXEC.BAT at boot but does
not require it (as Win95 did.)

Indeed: it runs it if it is there.

3. AUTOEXEC.BAT never requires any COPY functions
with or without /V

However, it is quite possible that a system variable can be set which
affects how all subsequent copy operations behave; that is what the OP
wants. I do not know the copy command, but for example the dir command
can be set to always list in certain orders by setting the DIRCMD
variable. In fact I've just checked, and there is an (optional) COPYCMD
variable, though it may not include the /v option ("copy /?" suggests it
may only be able to hold the /Y option, which is to do with
overwriting). The "verify on" command the OP mentions seems to set a
toggle that might be a similar thing.

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Better repost in a WiinXP NG explaining which COPY
processes you want to run at boot.

I agree he's be better asking in an XP newsgroup. But he doesn't want to
run any COPY processes *at boot* - he wants to invoke something at boot
that affects how all _subsequent_ copy (and move) operations operate.

Oops - he _is_ posting to rather a lot of newsgroups. I've left them all
in for now, but it would probably be better to remove the 98 one at the
very least.
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in
:

"Hari Hari Mau" wrote in message
...

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.
I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

You may have apprehended thiings backwards.
1. This is a "parameter" of the COPY utility built into
operating systems, which may or may not be available
in any particular version of MS-DOS (as Win98) or its
avatars (e.g. XP: both have this function.)
2. Win98 may use AUTOEXEC.BAT at boot but does
not require it (as Win95 did.)
3. AUTOEXEC.BAT never requires any COPY functions
with or without /V

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Better repost in a WiinXP NG explaining which COPY
processes you want to run at boot.

If you don't know or can't answer, don't bother replying.


--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Hari Hari Mau wrote in
:

In Win98, an "verify on" entry inside the autoexec.bat batch file
ensures that each and every copy operation is being done by bit-by-bit
verification.

I am looking for a way to do such a thing on XP.

I tried setting up a script at the startup/shutdown script, hoping
that when the machine is booted up, the "verify on" option would be
loaded. Apparently what I did failed miserably.

So I am here looking for help.

Can any of you Gurus tell me how to automate this "verify on" thing
for XP, so that every time the PC is booted, XP loads in the "verify
on" thing automatically, resulting in each and every copy / move
operation are verified bit-by-bit ?

Would be very appreciative of any of your suggestion and/or opinion.

Found this link:

http://www.computerhope.com/verifyhl.htm

The exact same method is used in *every* MS OS since MSDOS. That is, just
put a line:

verify on

in a file called autoexec.bat in the root directory of your C: drive and
enable autoexcec.bat in msconfig.

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Scott Seligman wrote:
"John John (MVP)" wrote:

Scott Seligman wrote:


"John John (MVP)" wrote:


Scott Seligman wrote:



John Holmes wrote:



Windows Explorer will always copy with verify ON


No it doesn't (at least not in Vista, I didn't bother to verify this
with XP).

If you didn't verify with XP then why are you bothering replying to an
XP group? Windows Explorer always copies with verify on and I would be
surprised if Vista did this any differently.


No it doesn't. I just verified this with a stock XP installation.
Explorer didn't very the copy after it was completed, so you're wrong.

How exactly did you verify if Explorer.exe verified its file copy?


I ran Process Monitor while the copy was going and looked to see if
Explorer tried to read the destination file or only wrote to it. (It
only wrote to it)

So then we would have to conclude that other than the copy command none
of the other native file copy commands are capable of verifying the copy
operation?

I'm finding this a bit hard to believe, especially when Microsoft tells
us that the /v switch is ignored with Xcopy because the verify operation
is inherent to the operating system.

John

"John John (MVP)" wrote:
So then we would have to conclude that other than the copy command none
of the other native file copy commands are capable of verifying the
copy operation?

No. I'm just saying by default Explorer doesn't verify the contents of
the copy operation by default. For all I know there's some way to enable
that behavior.

I'm finding this a bit hard to believe, especially when Microsoft
tells us that the /v switch is ignored with Xcopy because the verify
operation is inherent to the operating system.

Where do they say that? /V in Xcopy isn't documented as verifying the
file contents, but rather verifying the file size, something it in fact
does if you specify the /V option.

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